Re: project idea: Debian metric portal

2013-03-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 03:25:49PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 03:03:57PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > seems you are desperately seeking new tasks for you past-leader time. ;-)
> 
> Indeed: freedom, at last! :)

:-)
I can't miss any chance to say: "Thank you for your fine work!" (and so I
do hereby).

> > Do you also consider including the results of the teammetrics projects
> > of GSoC 2011 and 2012[1].
> > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/01/msg00011.html
> ... 
> On the other hand, team metrics are kind of weird, as
> they're neither project-wide (meaning: one metric per project),

Hmmm, active people on debian-devel, debian-project or debian-user are
somehow project-wide.

> nor as
> abundant as package (meaning: one metric per package). So, I still don't
> know whether it would be a good fit.

I also don't know whether it is a good fit - my question was rather in
the direction of clarifying the scope of your project because we just
had a project containing the term "metric".

> We'll see, I guess. Let's first get
> the infrastructure in place, then you'll be free to (ab)use it as you
> please :-)
> « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »

:-)

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: project idea: Debian metric portal

2013-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 03:03:57PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> seems you are desperately seeking new tasks for you past-leader time. ;-)

Indeed: freedom, at last! :)

> > It's essentially a refactoring/reengineering initiative to consolidate
> > all the scattered metrics graphing initiatives we have throughout the
> > project. Those of you familiar with Tor might recognize some
> > similarities with http://metrics.torproject.org
> 
> Do you also consider including the results of the teammetrics projects
> of GSoC 2011 and 2012[1].
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/01/msg00011.html

I don't consider including *specific* data sources as an objective for
the project. But surely including any relevant project-wide metric out
there should be easy enough, otherwise I wouldn't consider the result
successful. On the other hand, team metrics are kind of weird, as
they're neither project-wide (meaning: one metric per project), nor as
abundant as package (meaning: one metric per package). So, I still don't
know whether it would be a good fit. We'll see, I guess. Let's first get
the infrastructure in place, then you'll be free to (ab)use it as you
please :-)

Thanks for your feedback,
Cheers.
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Re: project idea: Debian metric portal

2013-03-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Stefano,

seems you are desperately seeking new tasks for you past-leader time. ;-)

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:46:52AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Heya, here is a draft of a project I'd like to mentor for GSoC, assuming
> we find an interested and suitable student.
> 
> [project description]
> 
> It's essentially a refactoring/reengineering initiative to consolidate
> all the scattered metrics graphing initiatives we have throughout the
> project. Those of you familiar with Tor might recognize some
> similarities with http://metrics.torproject.org

Do you also consider including the results of the teammetrics projects
of GSoC 2011 and 2012[1].

> I welcome feedback on the idea, as well as volunteers for co-mentoring
> with me.
> 
> An open point for discussion is what should be used as database to stock
> the underlying data. UDD currently has *some* historical data but, at
> least in the beginning, it didn't have vocation at storing that kind of
> data. So I was more thinking at using a separate database, but I've no
> strong opinion either way. Any suggestion?

I'd be afraid that once data is somewhere else it might remain there.
So if there are no good reasons to keep it outside I would consider
including it into UDD (which is my very personal view).

Kind regards

  Andreas.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2013/01/msg00011.html

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Re: project idea: Debian metric portal

2013-03-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

> '''Debian metrics portal'''

I guess this isn't about per-package metrics (Mole/PTS is good for
that), but about things like the ones listed on the stats wiki page?

http://wiki.debian.org/Statistics
http://wiki.debian.org/Mole

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