Re: Processed: libxaw-dev is long gone

2004-01-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:43:17PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:26:33PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:14:54AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > > Why is a pure virtual build-depends a serious bug?
> > > Could you please point out the section of policy?
> > 
> > Forget the pure virtual bit - nothing in unstable provides libxaw-dev
> > any more.
> 
> oookay so is the "correct" behaviour now, to replace libxaw-dev, with
> a specific version, eg libxaw6-dev ?

Yes.

> Sfunny.. I thought my package ORIGINALLY did that, and then I got a "bug"
> filed against it a year or three back, that it should instead depend on the
> virtual package. Most irritating. Consistancy in policy should be a
> desirable feature.

Consistency in bug filers is, I fear, impossible. :) Sometimes they're
just wrong. I think policy has been fairly consistent in recommending
that packages should depend at least on "real-package |
virtual-package", although that's mostly to help dselect etc.; to my
knowledge it says little about build-depends.

Anyway, build-dependency changes caused by package rearrangements are
really outside the domain of policy.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Processed: libxaw-dev is long gone

2004-01-08 Thread Philip Brown
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:26:33PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:14:54AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Why is a pure virtual build-depends a serious bug?
> > Could you please point out the section of policy?
> 
> Forget the pure virtual bit - nothing in unstable provides libxaw-dev
> any more.
> 

oookay so is the "correct" behaviour now, to replace libxaw-dev, with
a specific version, eg libxaw6-dev ?

Sfunny.. I thought my package ORIGINALLY did that, and then I got a "bug"
filed against it a year or three back, that it should instead depend on the
virtual package. Most irritating. Consistancy in policy should be a
desirable feature.



Re: Processed: libxaw-dev is long gone

2004-01-06 Thread Daniel Schepler
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 03:48:54PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
>> Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> 
>> > severity 169969 serious
>> Bug#169969: acfax: Pure virtual build-depends on libxaw-dev
>> Severity set to `serious'.
>> 
>> > severity 170006 serious
>> Bug#170006: emacs20: Pure virtual build-depends on libxaw-dev
>> Severity set to `serious'.
>
> Why is a pure virtual build-depends a serious bug?
> Could you please point out the section of policy?
>
>
> We've had this discussion before (in #169969) and you didn't convince
> me.

The problem now is that there isn't any libxaw-dev virtual package at
all any more.  I retitled the bugs also, to reflect this fact.
-- 
Daniel Schepler  "Please don't disillusion me.  I
[EMAIL PROTECTED]haven't had breakfast yet."
 -- Orson Scott Card



Re: Processed: libxaw-dev is long gone

2004-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:14:54AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 03:48:54PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > 
> > > severity 169969 serious
> > Bug#169969: acfax: Pure virtual build-depends on libxaw-dev
> > Severity set to `serious'.
> > 
> > > severity 170006 serious
> > Bug#170006: emacs20: Pure virtual build-depends on libxaw-dev
> > Severity set to `serious'.
> 
> Why is a pure virtual build-depends a serious bug?
> Could you please point out the section of policy?

Forget the pure virtual bit - nothing in unstable provides libxaw-dev
any more.

xfree86 (4.2.1-12) unstable; urgency=high

  [...]
  * Kill off libxaw-dev virtual package per discussion on debian-devel mailing
list.
- debian/control:
  + libxaw6-dev now conflicts with and replaces libxaw7-dev instead of
libxaw-dev
  + libxaw6-dev no longer provides libxaw-dev
  + libxaw7-dev now conflicts with and replaces libxaw6-dev instead of
libxaw-dev
  + libxaw7-dev no longer provides libxaw-dev
  [...]

 -- Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:34:48 -0500

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Processed: libxaw-dev is long gone

2004-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 03:48:54PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > severity 169969 serious
> Bug#169969: acfax: Pure virtual build-depends on libxaw-dev
> Severity set to `serious'.
> 
> > severity 170006 serious
> Bug#170006: emacs20: Pure virtual build-depends on libxaw-dev
> Severity set to `serious'.

Why is a pure virtual build-depends a serious bug?
Could you please point out the section of policy?


We've had this discussion before (in #169969) and you didn't convince
me.

Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>