kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture

2004-06-16 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

Start work towards very basic dpkg progress interface. No worky ATM.
Also cleanup KaptureManager pointers, it's singleton now. Plus few
random changes.


  M +1 -1  TODO   1.33
  M +2 -1  kapture/kapture.cpp   1.25
  M +0 -1  kapture/kapture.h   1.11
  M +0 -1  libcapture/pkgmanager.cpp   1.27
  M +1 -1  libcapture/pkgmanager.h   1.19
  M +1 -0  libcapture/pkgsystem.cpp   1.2
  M +0 -1  libkapture/celemview.h   1.3
  M +3 -4  libkapture/commitstatus.cpp   1.2
  M +1 -3  libkapture/commitstatus.h   1.2
  M +29 -1 libkapture/dpkgpm.cpp   1.3
  M +13 -0 libkapture/dpkgpm.h   1.3
  M +4 -2  libkapture/kapturemanager.cpp   1.24
  M +6 -4  libkapture/kapturemanager.h   1.11
  M +0 -1  libkapture/listtreeview.h   1.3
  M +0 -1  libkapture/pkgcelemview.h   1.5
  M +0 -1  libkapture/summaryview.h   1.3
  M +0 -1  libkapture/treeview.h   1.7





kdeextragear-1/amarok/debian

2004-06-16 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

Debian packages for 1.0 release:
- split engines from amarok, depend on at least one engine
- note that xmms is not supported, but solution is seeked


  Aamarok-arts.install   1.1
  Aamarok-gstreamer.install   1.1
  M +8 -1  amarok.install   1.2
  M +18 -0 changelog   1.2
  M +21 -1 control   1.2


--- kdeextragear-1/amarok/debian/amarok.install  #1.1:1.2
@@ -1 +1,8 @@
-debian/tmp/*
+debian/tmp/usr/share/apps/amarok/*
+debian/tmp/usr/share/icons/*
+debian/tmp/usr/share/config.kcfg/amarok.kcfg
+debian/tmp/usr/share/servicetypes/amarok_plugin.desktop
+debian/tmp/usr/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop
+debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/*
+debian/tmp/usr/bin/*
+debian/tmp/etc/*

--- kdeextragear-1/amarok/debian/changelog  #1.1:1.2
@@ -1,2 +1,20 @@
+amarok (1.0.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Build official 1.0.0 release.
+
+ -- Peter Rockai (mornfall) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:48:52 
+0200
+
+amarok (1.0-pre1-2) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Fix amarok-arts package, was missing mcop files. Duh.
+
+ -- Peter Rockai (mornfall) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:25:29 
+0200
+
+amarok (1.0-pre1-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * First 1.0.0 prerelease.
+
+ -- Peter Rockai (mornfall) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:18:31 
+0200
+
 amarok (1.0-beta4-2) unstable; urgency=low
 

--- kdeextragear-1/amarok/debian/control  #1.1:1.2
@@ -4,4 +4,5 @@
 Maintainer: Peter Rockai (mornfall) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Build-Depends: cdbs (>= 0.4.21), debhelper (>> 4.0.18), kdelibs4-dev (>= 
4:3.2), kdemultimedia-dev (>= 4:3.2), libtag1-dev (>= 1.1), 
libgstreamer0.8-dev, libgstreamer-plugins0.8-dev
+Build-Conflicts: xmms-dev
 Standards-Version: 3.5.8.0
 
@@ -9,5 +10,5 @@
 Section: sound
 Architecture: any
-Depends: arts (>= 1.2), ${shlibs:Depends}
+Depends: amarok-arts | amarok-gstreamer, ${shlibs:Depends}
 Description: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE
  amaroK tries to be a little different, providing a simple drag and drop
@@ -24,2 +25,21 @@
  This version is built with aRts and GStreamer support, NMM engine is not
  yet included.
+ .
+ The xmms visualisation support was disabled in this release. We are working
+ on a solution though.
+
+Package: amarok-arts
+Section: sound
+Architecture: any
+Depends: arts (>= 1.2), ${shlibs:Depends}
+Description: arts engine for amarok audio player
+ Arts support for amaroK, a versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE.
+ See package amarok for the actual player.
+
+Package: amarok-gstreamer
+Section: sound
+Architecture: any
+Depends: gstreamer0.8-plugins, ${shlibs:Depends}
+Description: gstreamer engine for amarok audio player
+ GStreamer support for amaroK, a versatile and easy to use audio player for
+ KDE. See package amarok for the actual player.




Processed: kteatime failure to dock into system tray

2004-06-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> retitle 248607 Please allow KSystemTray apps to dock into the GNOME systray
Bug#248607: kteatime: Shows only empty screen
Changed Bug title.

> reassign 248607 kdelibs4
Bug#248607: Please allow KSystemTray apps to dock into the GNOME systray
Bug reassigned from package `kteatime' to `kdelibs4'.

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Bug#254794: kmail: Relocation error in libkabc.so.1

2004-06-16 Thread Sebastian Ley
Package: kmail
Version: 4:3.2.2-2
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable

Whenever I try to write an Email, kmail crashes with the following error
in .xsession-error:

relocation error: /usr/lib/libkabc.so.1: undefined symbol:

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-1-k7
Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Versions of packages kmail depends on:
ii  kdebase-kio-plugins   4:3.2.2-1  KDE I/O Slaves
ii  kdelibs4  4:3.2.3-2  KDE core libraries
ii  ktnef 4:3.2.2-2  KDE TNEF viewer
ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.16-5   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-13   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-5client library to control the FAM 
ii  libgcc1   1:3.3.4-1  GCC support library
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libjpeg62 6b-9   The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkcal2  4:3.2.2-2  KDE calendaring library
ii  libkdenetwork24:3.2.2-2  KDE Network library
ii  libkdepim14:3.2.2-2  KDE PIM library
ii  libksieve04:3.2.2-2  KDE mail/news message filtering li
ii  libmimelib1   4:3.2.2-2  KDE mime library
ii  libpcre3  4.5-1.1Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi
ii  libpng12-01.2.5.0-6  PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-3  Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Session Management
ii  libstdc++51:3.3.4-1  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxext6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxrender1   0.8.3-7X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System client libraries m
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.1.1-3compression library - runtime

-- no debconf information




Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Brian Nelson
Dominique Devriese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brian Nelson writes:
>
> Summarizing: Qt is a very complex package, and there are good
> reasons for most, if not all split-ups.
>>>
 I'm still unconvinced of that.
>>>
>>> Fine, I'm not going to keep arguing with you over this.  IMHO, as
>>> you've demonstrated above, you don't seem to know Qt thoroughly
>>> enough to be able to understand the need for the structure of its
>>> packages.
>> I'm confident I know Qt very well for standard application
>> development and I don't see anything above that demonstrates
>> otherwise.  
>
> Yeah, firstly, I've prolly been too harsh above.  Sorry. I guess it's
> my natural geek tendency to flame coming up :s
>
> What I was talking about is that you didn't seem to know what Qt
> Assistant is intended to be used for, 

Well, I know what it is used for--I use it all the time when doing Qt
development.  I never realized any application actually made use of it
to display their own documentation.  A quick check of qt3-assistant's
reverse dependencies shows that nothing outside of Qt depends on
qt3-assistant in Debian, so you can surely understand my ignorance.

> what qt-apps-dev could be used for, even when the package description
> stated it pretty clearly etc, 

Hmm, I wonder if I was thinking of another package description.  The
qt3-apps-dev one does seem pretty clear (though the package name is
still confusing).  It still seems like an odd package to me; it sounds
like it could suitably be integrated into another package.

> and the radicalness of your proposals.
>
> About the issues we were discussing:
>
> * get rid of non-mt packages
>   -> Could save quite some buildd time, but might upset some people
>  still depending on it.  I wouldn't do it yet for Qt 3.0
>  personally.
> * get rid of embedded stuff
>   -> prolly not a good idea, you seem to have changed your mind here
>  too or I misunderstood you in the first place.
> * get rid of libqt3-compat-headers
>   -> I disagreed, but Ben convinced me.
> * move a lot of dev stuff into one -dev package
>   -> Don't really like the idea, since it makes all people install
>   more stuff they don't need, and I still seem to miss the advantage.

I think you looked at the changelog entry of my Qt package and assumed
everything I did was for a good reason.  In actuality, the changes were
noted to record the damage I did as well as the things I actually
thought were good ideas.  Sorry about the confusion.  To clarify, here
are my following proposals:


* Remove the non-mt packages.

  Rationale: No package[1] in Debian depends on it.  It only serves to
  confuse people which package (libqt3-dev or libqt3-mt-dev) to use, and
  bogs down the buildds.

  Result: Removes libqt3-dev, libqt3c102, libqt3c102-mysql,
  libqt3c102-odbc, libqt3c102-psql, libqt3c102-sqlite


  Removing the non-mt packages would only potentially break 3rd-party
  software that uses the non-mt libraries.  This software includes:

- Old Qt2.x era software whose configure scripts are not capable of
  detecting the mt version.  These scripts were already broken by
  the move from /usr/share/qt -> /usr/share/qt3, so it's not worth
  worrying about.

- Commercial software linked against the non-mt version as a shared
  library.  Such software is likely quite rare since normally
  commercial software is statically-linked.  Users of any such
  software, if it exists, should bash the vendor to fix it.

- Software compiled on other distributions but run on Debian.  This
  is another unusual case that is dependent on whether other
  distributions use the mt or non-mt libs (the GCC version used
  could break compatibility anyway).  I have not investigated this
  at all, but I suspect most other distros compiled with GCC 3.x use
  the mt libs as well, so this situation would be moot.

  Also, there's another potential solution to these problems: create a
  libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt.so.3 symlink and have libqt3c102-mt provide
  libqt3c102.  Making stuff reentrant seems, in theory to me anyway, to
  not break binary compatibility.  For my own amusement, I just tried
  running the qterm in Debian with this symlink and it seemed to run OK.
  I have no idea if it would work reliably for other software though.

  History note:  I am largely responsible for the software in Debian
  uniformly using the mt libs.  It was decided by Madkiss (and others?)
  a year or two ago to deprecate the non-mt libs in favor of the mt
  libs.  I strongly supported this stance, and at Madkiss's, errr,
  goading[2], I filed bugs with patches against every package in Debian
  depending on libqt3/libqt3c102.


[1] OK, vipec and qterm do depend on libqt3c102.  vipec has a patch that
is waiting for the maintainer to apply it, and qterm and old and
should just be removed.

[2] http://lists.debian

Bug#254721: juk: FTBFS on amd64: Please remove the build dependency on gcc-3.2

2004-06-16 Thread Andreas Jochens
close 254721
thanks

On 04-Jun-16 12:52, Christopher Martin wrote:
> On June 16, 2004 12:20, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > Juk the source package needs to be removed from the archive, its
> > already part of kdemultimedia source now.

Sorry, I did not check that.

> I filed a request for this already - #254481. Can this #254721 then be 
> closed?

Done.

Regards
Andreas Jochens



Processed: Re: Bug#254721: juk: FTBFS on amd64: Please remove the build dependency on gcc-3.2

2004-06-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> close 254721
Bug#254721: juk: FTBFS on amd64: Please remove the build dependency on gcc-3.2
'close' is deprecated; see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#closing.
Bug closed, send any further explanations to Andreas Jochens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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kdenonbeta (silent)

2004-06-16 Thread Stephan Binner
CVS commit by binner: 

CVS_SILENT fixuifiles


  M +0 -3  akregator/src/settings_browser.ui   1.5
  M +0 -3  akregator/src/settings_general.ui   1.8
  M +0 -6  applets/kjsapplet/installer.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  finglonger/kcmfinglonger/pageactiontypebase.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  finglonger/kcmfinglonger/pagerunappbase.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  finglonger/kcmfinglonger/profilebase.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  frontman/src/dialogs/pathspagebase.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  frontman/src/kernel/frontiobase.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  frontman/src/kernel/dialogs/startdlgbase.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  kalypso/kalypso/pagecomponentsimpl.ui   1.9
  M +0 -3  kalypso/kalypso/pagefinalimpl.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kalypso/kalypso/pageinstallimpl.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kalypso/kalypso/pageintroimpl.ui   1.8
  M +0 -3  kalypso/kalypso/pagelocationimpl.ui   1.8
  M +0 -3  kalypso/kalypso/pageversionimpl.ui   1.12
  M +0 -3  kard/src/theme.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kard/src/timer.ui   1.5
  M +0 -3  kblog/blogEditUI.ui   1.4
  M +0 -3  kblog/editview.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  kblog/imageSelect.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kblog/postmgrview.ui   1.4
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/addhost_ui.ui   1.5
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/addserver_ui.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/addsubnet_ui.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/dhcpd_config_ui.ui   1.8
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/editserver_ui.ui   1.8
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/hostitem_ui.ui   1.5
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/leasesitem_ui.ui   1.4
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/oneitem_ui.ui   1.9
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/oneitemtime_ui.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/optionsitem_ui.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/rangeitem_ui.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/rangesitem_ui.ui   1.8
  M +0 -3  kcmdhcpd/subnetitem_ui.ui   1.6
  M +0 -3  kdedebian/kapture/libkapture/pkgcelemviewcommonui.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kdedebian/kapture/libkapture/pkgcelemviewdetailsui.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kdedebian/kapture/part/partviewui.ui   1.4
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  M +0 -3  kdeprintphoto/printsettingsimpl.ui   1.5
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  M +0 -3  kfs/src/kfsdsyncdialog.ui   1.3
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  M +0 -3  kifi/src/ui/configtabwidget.ui   1.2
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  M +0 -3  kmameleon/main/layouts/mod_devices.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kmameleon/main/layouts/mod_effects.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  kmameleon/main/layouts/mod_gl.ui   1.2
  M +0 -3  kmameleon/main/layouts/mod_paths.ui   1.2
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  M +0 -3  kmameleon/main/layouts/mod_x11.ui   1.2
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  M +1 -1  kmathprof/src/statisticbase.ui   1.3
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  M +1 -4  kmathtool/src/FactorsD.ui   1.5
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  M +0 -3  kmathtool/src/ParabolasD.ui   1.2
  M +1 -4  kmathtool/src/StartWidgetD.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  konqsidebar_plugins/konqsidebarmediaplayer/mediawidget_skel.ui   
1.5
  M +0 -3  
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  M +0 -3  kontextbar/src/setupdialogview.ui   1.2
  M +1 -4  kontextbar/src/sidebarselector.ui   1.2
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  M +0 -3  kpicross/src/selectboardui.ui   1.3
  M +0 -3  kpolicy/src/generalsettingsimpl.ui   1.3
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Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Dominique Devriese
Brian Nelson writes:

 Summarizing: Qt is a very complex package, and there are good
 reasons for most, if not all split-ups.
>>
>>> I'm still unconvinced of that.
>>
>> Fine, I'm not going to keep arguing with you over this.  IMHO, as
>> you've demonstrated above, you don't seem to know Qt thoroughly
>> enough to be able to understand the need for the structure of its
>> packages.
> I'm confident I know Qt very well for standard application
> development and I don't see anything above that demonstrates
> otherwise.  

Yeah, firstly, I've prolly been too harsh above.  Sorry. I guess it's
my natural geek tendency to flame coming up :s

What I was talking about is that you didn't seem to know what Qt
Assistant is intended to be used for, what qt-apps-dev could be used
for, even when the package description stated it pretty clearly etc,
and the radicalness of your proposals.

About the issues we were discussing:

* get rid of non-mt packages
  -> Could save quite some buildd time, but might upset some people
 still depending on it.  I wouldn't do it yet for Qt 3.0
 personally.
* get rid of embedded stuff
  -> prolly not a good idea, you seem to have changed your mind here
 too or I misunderstood you in the first place.
* get rid of libqt3-compat-headers
  -> I disagreed, but Ben convinced me.
* move a lot of dev stuff into one -dev package
  -> Don't really like the idea, since it makes all people install
  more stuff they don't need, and I still seem to miss the advantage.

> I've already admitted to not knowing anything about embedded stuff.
> Which is fine no one actually uses all of Qt, so no one is qualified
> to be the sole maintainer of the package.  It should be
> group-maintained.

FWIW, I would very much like to see Qt group-maintained, if at all
possible.  

I'm going to abstain from further comments, as I really should
be studying...

cheers
domi



Bug#254721: juk: FTBFS on amd64: Please remove the build dependency on gcc-3.2

2004-06-16 Thread Christopher Martin
On June 16, 2004 12:20, Chris Cheney wrote:
> Juk the source package needs to be removed from the archive, its
> already part of kdemultimedia source now.

I filed a request for this already - #254481. Can this #254721 then be 
closed?

Cheers,
Christopher Martin



Bug#254721: juk: FTBFS on amd64: Please remove the build dependency on gcc-3.2

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 05:23:02PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote:
> Package: juk
> Severity: normal
> Tags: patch
> 
> juk does not build on amd64 because it insists on using gcc-3.2.
> Please remove this dependency on gcc-3.2 (see attached patch).

Juk the source package needs to be removed from the archive, its already
part of kdemultimedia source now.

Chris


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Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Brian Nelson
Dominique Devriese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brian Nelson writes:
>
>> Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:43:33PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:

 Why do you insist so stubbornly on maintaining the package?  You
 don't take very good care of it, and you've said in the past that
 you don't even do any Qt development.
>>>
>>> If you saw Qt before a few of us beat on it around April 2002 you
>>> would understand why no one else _wants_ to maintain it. Trolltech
>>> is very lacking in clue and had to be constantly beat on to do
>>> things competently. They may be getting better but from what I have
>>> heard recently they are still pretty incompetent. I was originally
>>> going to maintain Qt as well but ran away screaming. ;) Thats
>>> pretty bad considering the shape KDE was in at the time as well...
>
>> Yeah, I'm quite aware of Trolltech's occasional insanity.  However,
>> I'm maintaining a fork anyway so maintaining the Debian package
>> wouldn't really be much extra work for me.
>
> Since you seem to want to replace Martin by force, let me just say
> this: Martin's track record wrt bugs is far from perfect, but I feel
> very much more comfortable with him maintaining the package than you
> doing it.
>
> Your uninformed proposals wrt. undoing the package split have proven
> to me that you don't know Qt enough to be able to maintain the
> package, and that you don't have the experience or intelligence to
> realise that fact.

We, more personal insults.

As I've said before, I don't consider the Qt packages I posted earlier
fit for upload.  In fact, if I did take over the package in Debian, I
wouldn't make many of the changes I made in that package, especially
considering sarge's imminent release.

Also, I'm not convinced all of my proposals are good ideas.  They are
merely proposals I've opened for discussion.  I've provided the
rationale for each of my proposals, but all I've gotten in return are
statements like "it's important to provide both flavours" (uh, why?
I've already tried to explain why it's *not* important) or falsities
about the buildd's and such.

Which all kind of makes me think no one involved in Debian's Qt package
has any idea what they're doing--and looking at the package, that seems
very plausible.


> I am also convinced that you don't know about the kind of difficult to
> resolve bugs that a Qt maintainer is faced with.  

Err, well I have gone through many of the bug reports, which is
something Madkiss clearly has not done.  So I do have a pretty good
idea...

> You have to realise that ACE is a package that not much people use (
> and rightfully so imho, but let's not start about that ),

Heh heh, fair enough...

> so it's pretty easy to fix its bugs.

True.  I'm not saying that being involved in ACE's packaging qualifies
me to maintain Qt, though it has given me experience in hacking on a
build system even uglier than Qt's (which is an impressive feat...).


> Conclusion: I suggest that you try to work together with Martin on the
> package or shut up.

I've always tried to work together.  I think the whole territorial "MY
PACKAGE, HANDS OFF!" thing in Debian is just bullshit.  We all should be
working together.

I was trying to have a reasonable discussion in this thread.  I pointed
out problems and offered solutions, asked questions about things I
didn't understand, and backed up my arguments with thoughtful
explanations.

Then Madkiss attacked me and tried to laugh me out of the room, and now
you're saying you think I'm an idiot without explanation (saying I don't
understand package splits is *not* an explanation).  And people wonder
why the Debian Qt packages are in such shitty shape?  Have you
considered that Madkiss (and possibly you) are not willing to work
together with anyone else, and are more content to fight and argue than
to actually improve the packages?

It's not like I'm the first person Madkiss has pissed off--as I'm sure
we all remember.

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Bug#254721: juk: FTBFS on amd64: Please remove the build dependency on gcc-3.2

2004-06-16 Thread Andreas Jochens
Package: juk
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

juk does not build on amd64 because it insists on using gcc-3.2.
Please remove this dependency on gcc-3.2 (see attached patch).

Regards
Andreas Jochens

diff -urN ../tmp-orig/juk-1.95/debian/control ./debian/control
--- ../tmp-orig/juk-1.95/debian/control 2004-01-22 00:02:20.0 +0100
+++ ./debian/control2004-06-16 17:06:43.155300039 +0200
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 Section: devel
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 4.1.0), libkdegst0.6-dev, g++-3.2, 
xlibs-dev, libmusicbrainz2-dev, libid3-3.8.3-dev, chrpath
+Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 4.1.0), libkdegst0.6-dev, xlibs-dev, 
libmusicbrainz2-dev, libid3-3.8.3-dev, chrpath
 Standards-Version: 3.6.1
 
 Package: juk
diff -urN ../tmp-orig/juk-1.95/debian/rules ./debian/rules
--- ../tmp-orig/juk-1.95/debian/rules   2003-10-10 02:17:11.0 +0200
+++ ./debian/rules  2004-06-16 17:06:28.479140260 +0200
@@ -7,9 +7,6 @@
 include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk
 include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk
 
-CC := gcc-3.2
-CXX := g++-3.2
-
 common-install-arch::
chrpath -d debian/juk/usr/bin/juk
 


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-1-k8-smp
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C



Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Brian Nelson
Dominique Devriese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> One of the reasons I'm so ornery when it comes to the Debian Qt
>> packages is that much of this stuff was discussed before the split
>> and there seemed to be a consensus that there were a lot of problems
>> with it, yet it was done anyway without heeding any of the advice.
>
> You don't happen to have a link around, do you ?

There's a massive thread here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/02/msg00329.html

A little more here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/02/msg00065.html

There's probably more but I don't feel like looking.


>>> For another thing, Qt assistant is not only a development tool
>>> either.  Many Qt apps use it to display their documentation.  You
>>> would require every user of such apps to install the entire
>>> development package.
>
>> Really?  I was not aware of this.  I don't think it would matter
>> much though since I doubt any users other than Qt developers are
>> aware of the assistant, and the documentation is in html format
>> readable by any web browser anyway.
>
> It's not a matter of being aware of them.  The fact is that if you
> press "help" in some qt programs, they call the assistant.  Users need
> it.  period.

Well in that case it clearly belongs in libqt3c102-mt.


>>> You also seem to ignore non-multithreaded use of the qt libraries,
>>> even though there are still applications depending on this.
>
>> Well, there are only 2 packages in Debian still using them (I filed
>> bugs to fix all of them)--one appears to have a dead upstream and
>> the other has a negligent maintainer.
>
> Non-multithreaded use is discouraged and will be removed in Qt 4.
> There's no reason for Debian to remove it earlier.  I consider your
> bugs invalid.

The libqt3-dev package description, written by Madkiss, says:

 WARNING: The nonthreaded version of Qt3 is considered deprecated and
 may disappear anytime in the future. Please use libqt3-mt instead
 (Read README.Debian for instructions).

Non-multithreaded use is already discouraged, at least in Debian...


Furthermore, we are not compelled in any way to include it.  When
building Qt, you get a choice, and that choice is multi-threaded by
default.  You don't get both.  Qmake is designed more or less to adapt
to the currently installed Qt--if it's built mt, qmake creates makefiles
for mt.  I don't see any reason why we need to have both versions if no
software in Debian uses non-mt.


>>> Summarizing: Qt is a very complex package, and there are good
>>> reasons for most, if not all split-ups.
>
>> I'm still unconvinced of that.
>
> Fine, I'm not going to keep arguing with you over this.  IMHO, as
> you've demonstrated above, you don't seem to know Qt thoroughly enough
> to be able to understand the need for the structure of its packages.

I'm confident I know Qt very well for standard application development
and I don't see anything above that demonstrates otherwise.  Just
because I want to change the package around (actually, it's more
reverting it to the way it was pre-madkiss), does that make me
incompetent?

I've already admitted to not knowing anything about embedded stuff.
Which is fine no one actually uses all of Qt, so no one is qualified to
be the sole maintainer of the package.  It should be group-maintained.


>>> If you want to help, it would imho be more useful to send Martin
>>> patches for some of the real problems, as he has already requested
>>> often.
>
>> I have in the past, but they've been rejected (because Ralf Nolden
>> is a stubborn flaming nitwit IMNSHO).
>
> Any link on that ?

http://bugs.debian.org/180326

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Bug#254666: Acknowledgement (konqueror: fails when started using the web navigation profile.)

2004-06-16 Thread Rafael Jesus Alcantara Perez
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The bug may be more related to kdebase or kdelibs because Kontact also crashes 
when sending an e-mail.
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KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdesdk/debian

2004-06-16 Thread Ben Burton
CVS commit by benb: 

More manpages.


  M +1 -0  changelog   1.53.2.11


--- kdesdk/debian/changelog  #1.53.2.10:1.53.2.11
@@ -3,4 +3,5 @@
   * New upstream bugfix release.
   * Rebuilt against STL-enabled Qt and corresponding kdelibs.
+  * Added manpages for cvs2dist and build-progress.sh.
   * Use real paths for doc-base entries instead of symlinked paths
 (closes: #247690).




KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdesdk/debian

2004-06-16 Thread Ben Burton
CVS commit by benb: 

More manpages.


  Abuild-progress.sh.1   1.1.2.1
  M +1 -0  kdesdk-scripts.manpages   1.11.2.3
  M +3 -0  rules   1.55.2.3


--- kdesdk/debian/kdesdk-scripts.manpages  #1.11.2.2:1.11.2.3
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 debian/adddebug.1
+debian/build-progress.sh.1
 debian/cheatmake.1
 debian/create_cvsignore.1

--- kdesdk/debian/rules  #1.55.2.2:1.55.2.3
@@ -208,5 +208,8 @@
   mv debian/kdesdk-scripts/usr/share/man/py/man1/zonetab2pot.1 \
 debian/kdesdk-scripts/usr/share/man/man1/zonetab2pot.py.1; \
+  mv debian/kdesdk-scripts/usr/share/man/sh/man1/build-progress.1 \
+debian/kdesdk-scripts/usr/share/man/man1/build-progress.sh.1; \
   rm -rf debian/kdesdk-scripts/usr/share/man/py; \
+  rm -rf debian/kdesdk-scripts/usr/share/man/sh; \
 ;; \
   esac; \




KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdesdk/debian

2004-06-16 Thread Ben Burton
CVS commit by benb: 

Manpage for cvs2dist.


  Acvs2dist.1   1.1.2.1
  M +1 -0  kdesdk-scripts.manpages   1.11.2.2


--- kdesdk/debian/kdesdk-scripts.manpages  #1.11.2.1:1.11.2.2
@@ -5,4 +5,5 @@
 debian/create_makefiles.1
 debian/cvs-clean.1
+debian/cvs2dist.1
 debian/cvscheck.1
 debian/cvslastchange.1




Bug#254685: your mail

2004-06-16 Thread Marc Haber
retitle #254685 doesn't correctly display some icons
thanks

Why did the original bug report go out without subject?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Ben Burton

> > For instance, you could put #warning pragmas at the top of each
> > obsolete header so that the compiler spits out a warning when one is
> > used.
> 
> I personally fail to see how this would be superior rather than
> complementary.

1. it achieves the original aim of alerting developers to their use
   of deprecated headers;
2. it still alerts developers who use deprecated headers even if you need
   to have compat-headers installed for some other reason (e.g., some
   user on your system is building 3rd party software that uses them) -
   the compat-headers solution fails completely in this scenario;
3. the errors themselves are clearer (a single "#warning: qlist.h is
   deprecated" is clearer than "error: cannot find header qlist.h" followed
   by a large flood of undefined types/etc);
4. it doesn't cause fatal breakages for users who just want to build
   some 3rd-party app and who aren't authoring Qt apps themselves;
5. it doesn't require root access (to install compat-headers) if you
   want to ignore the issue for the time being;
6. it doesn't give the impression that stuff that builds on every other
   system will fail to build on debian.

So it achieves the same aim as the compat-headers split as seen in point
1, and in points 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 it is a superior solution.  I don't see
any advantages that the compat-headers split has over #warnings.  You
could argue that by causing build failures it forces the issue to be
dealt with *NOW*, but aside from being rude (IMHO), it could go one of
two ways.  Either the developer fixes their app, or the developer
installs compat-headers for the time being (more important bugs to fix),
at which point the errors go away and the developer forgets about it
altogether.

Anyway.  This was all hashed out in some detail many months ago.  I'm
basically rehashing it just to answer your question. :)

b.



Bug#254685:

2004-06-16 Thread Marc Haber
Package: kpdf
Version: 4:3.2.2-1
Severity: normal

Hi,

please have a look at

http://www.lancom-systems.de/download/Documentation/Reference_Manual/LANCOM_Reference_Manual_3.32_DE.pdf

page 11, and compare with kghostview's output of page 11. The
Exclamation Mark, i, and Flash icons are displayed way too big by kpdf.

Greetings
Marc


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-janeway
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages kpdf depends on:
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ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.16-5   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-13   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-5client library to control the FAM 
ii  libfreetype6  2.1.7-2.1  FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1   1:3.3.4-1  GCC support library
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libpaper1 1.1.14 Library for handling paper charact
ii  libpng12-01.2.5.0-6  PNG library - runtime
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ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Session Management
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kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture

2004-06-16 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

Fix the update w/o debtags crash. Hopefully.


  M +4 -0  pkgtags.cpp   1.6


--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture/pkgtags.cpp  #1.5:1.6
@@ -268,4 +268,8 @@ int capture::pkgTagsUpdate (pkgAcquireSt
 // Updates the package tag database (requires root)
 {
+if (access (fn_dist_vocab, R_OK))
+return 1;
+mkdir ((_config->FindDir("Dir::State::lists") + "tags/") . c_str (), 0755);
+
 /// Update the system vocabulary
 cerr << "Merging system vocabularies...\n";




Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Dominique Devriese
Brian Nelson writes:

 qt3-apps-dev: stuff you need when you're going to be doing
 special things with embedding Qt designer and stuff.  Almost
 noone needs this.
>>
>>> "Special things"?  What the hell are "special things"?
>>
>> As I said: embedding Qt designer and stuff.
>>
>>> And the package name in no way suggests any difference from
>>> qt3-dev-tools.
>>
>> Then you should be complaining about the package name, not the fact
>> that the package exists.

> I'm doing both.  What does embedding Qt designer mean?  Is that
> something that is useful to many people?

Of course it's useful, but not to many people, no.  I consider that a
reason to not include it in a general -dev package.  

>> For example: you seem to propose to not split out the compat
>> headers, I think this would be a very bad idea, since I rely on
>> this in my qt development to make sure I'm not using obsolete qt
>> headers.

> This was discussed on debian-devel around the time the split was
> going to be made.  Several people agreed that there were superior
> alternate ways to accomplish this without splitting out the obsolete
> headers, and consequently breaking the compilation of many packages.

> For instance, you could put #warning pragmas at the top of each
> obsolete header so that the compiler spits out a warning when one is
> used.

I personally fail to see how this would be superior rather than
complementary.

> One of the reasons I'm so ornery when it comes to the Debian Qt
> packages is that much of this stuff was discussed before the split
> and there seemed to be a consensus that there were a lot of problems
> with it, yet it was done anyway without heeding any of the advice.

You don't happen to have a link around, do you ?

>> For another thing, Qt assistant is not only a development tool
>> either.  Many Qt apps use it to display their documentation.  You
>> would require every user of such apps to install the entire
>> development package.

> Really?  I was not aware of this.  I don't think it would matter
> much though since I doubt any users other than Qt developers are
> aware of the assistant, and the documentation is in html format
> readable by any web browser anyway.

It's not a matter of being aware of them.  The fact is that if you
press "help" in some qt programs, they call the assistant.  Users need
it.  period.

>> You also seem to ignore non-multithreaded use of the qt libraries,
>> even though there are still applications depending on this.

> Well, there are only 2 packages in Debian still using them (I filed
> bugs to fix all of them)--one appears to have a dead upstream and
> the other has a negligent maintainer.

Non-multithreaded use is discouraged and will be removed in Qt 4.
There's no reason for Debian to remove it earlier.  I consider your
bugs invalid.

>> You seem to not want to support embedded cross-development, again
>> without considering people who need this.

> There is already a Qt/Embedded source package in the archive.  Can
> that be used in place of the qt3-dev-tools-embedded stuff?

That is Qt/Embedded version 2, this is Qt/Embedded version 3.

>> Summarizing: Qt is a very complex package, and there are good
>> reasons for most, if not all split-ups.

> I'm still unconvinced of that.

Fine, I'm not going to keep arguing with you over this.  IMHO, as
you've demonstrated above, you don't seem to know Qt thoroughly enough
to be able to understand the need for the structure of its packages.

>> If you want to help, it would imho be more useful to send Martin
>> patches for some of the real problems, as he has already requested
>> often.

> I have in the past, but they've been rejected (because Ralf Nolden
> is a stubborn flaming nitwit IMNSHO).

Any link on that ?

> I have also been going through bug reports, since many are no longer
> relevant, already fixed. etc.

Great.

cheers
domi



Bug#254666: konqueror: fails when started using the web navigation profile.

2004-06-16 Thread Rafael Jesus Alcantara Perez
Package: konqueror
Version: 4:3.2.2-1
Severity: critical
Justification: breaks unrelated software

It also breaks, at least, kopete and kmldonkey.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (300, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-1-k7
Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8

Versions of packages konqueror depends on:
ii  kcontrol  4:3.2.2-1  KDE Control Center
ii  kdebase-kio-plugins   4:3.2.2-1  KDE I/O Slaves
ii  kdelibs4  4:3.2.3-2  KDE core libraries
ii  kdesktop  4:3.2.2-1  KDE Desktop
ii  kfind 4:3.2.2-1  KDE File Find Utility
ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.16-5   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-12   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-5client library to control the FAM 
ii  libgcc1   1:3.4.0-2  GCC support library
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libjpeg62 6b-9   The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
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ii  libpcre3  4.5-1.1Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi
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Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-16 Thread Dominique Devriese
Brian Nelson writes:

> Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:43:33PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
>>>
>>> Why do you insist so stubbornly on maintaining the package?  You
>>> don't take very good care of it, and you've said in the past that
>>> you don't even do any Qt development.
>>
>> If you saw Qt before a few of us beat on it around April 2002 you
>> would understand why no one else _wants_ to maintain it. Trolltech
>> is very lacking in clue and had to be constantly beat on to do
>> things competently. They may be getting better but from what I have
>> heard recently they are still pretty incompetent. I was originally
>> going to maintain Qt as well but ran away screaming. ;) Thats
>> pretty bad considering the shape KDE was in at the time as well...

> Yeah, I'm quite aware of Trolltech's occasional insanity.  However,
> I'm maintaining a fork anyway so maintaining the Debian package
> wouldn't really be much extra work for me.

Since you seem to want to replace Martin by force, let me just say
this: Martin's track record wrt bugs is far from perfect, but I feel
very much more comfortable with him maintaining the package than you
doing it.

Your uninformed proposals wrt. undoing the package split have proven
to me that you don't know Qt enough to be able to maintain the
package, and that you don't have the experience or intelligence to
realise that fact.

I am also convinced that you don't know about the kind of difficult to
resolve bugs that a Qt maintainer is faced with.  You have to realise
that ACE is a package that not much people use ( and rightfully so
imho, but let's not start about that ), so it's pretty easy to fix its
bugs.

Conclusion: I suggest that you try to work together with Martin on the
package or shut up.

cheers
domi



kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/tests/libcapture

2004-06-16 Thread Grzegorz Jaskiewicz
CVS commit by gj: 

Make it compile, even if the thing was not setup anywhere on HD before


  M +1 -1  Makefile.am   1.4


--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/tests/libcapture/Makefile.am  #1.3:1.4
@@ -4,5 +4,5 @@
 
 # set the include path for X, qt and KDE
-INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir) -I$(top_srcdir)/tests -I/usr/include/libtagcoll 
$(all_includes)
+INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir) -I$(top_srcdir)/libcapture -I$(top_srcdir)/tests 
-I/usr/include/libtagcoll $(all_includes)
 
 # these are the headers for your project




Bug#227538: plastik reappears

2004-06-16 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
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After the update of the kdethemes package to 3.2.3 the plastik theme
reappears.
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