[RFR] templates://phonon/{phonon-backend-null.templates}
Please find, for review, the debconf templates and packages descriptions for
the phonon source package.
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--- phonon.old/debian/phonon-backend-null.templates 2011-03-14
20:13:00.515104440 +0100
+++ phonon/debian/phonon-backend-null.templates 2011-03-18 06:51:42.699253466
+0100
@@ -3,15 +3,18 @@
_Description: Warning: Phonon is not functional
Template: phonon-backend-null/isnt_functional
-Type: note
-_Description: Phonon multimedia capabilities are disabled
- Phonon based (i.e. most KDE and some Qt) applications will produce no audio or
- video output because there is no real Phonon backend installed on your system.
+Type: error
+#flag:comment:4
+# Translators: do not translate variable names
+# only translate (recommended) (the one in parenthesis)
+_Description: Missing backend for Phonon
+ Phonon-based (i.e. most KDE and some Qt) applications will produce no audio or
+ video output because there is no real Phonon backend installed on this system.
Typically, this is an undesirable configuration which you might have gotten to
unintentionally.
.
- If you wish to restore full Phonon multimedia capabilities, install a real
- Phonon backend with your favourite package manager. The following Phonon
- backend packages seem to be available for your system at the moment:
+ If you wish to restore full Phonon multimedia capabilities, you
+ should install a real Phonon backend. The following Phonon
+ backend packages seem to be available for this system at the moment:
.
${recommended_backend} (recommended)${other_backends}
I think that error is more well suited for this warning
flag:comment (see po-debconf(7)) is helpful because translating the
last paragraph is tricky: translators should not translate variable
names BUT should translate the word recommended.
s/Phonon based/Phonon-based
s/your/this: the system is maybe not my system
Turn imperative form install foo into a suggestion you should
install foo.Drop useless with your favourite package manager.
--- phonon.old/debian/control 2011-03-14 20:13:00.515104440 +0100
+++ phonon/debian/control 2011-03-18 06:55:23.436332507 +0100
@@ -17,11 +17,11 @@
${phonon:Recommended-Backend} | phonon-backend
Suggests: ${phonon:Recommended-Backend}, phonon-backend-gstreamer,
phonon-backend-xine, phonon-backend-mplayer
-Description: metapackage for the Phonon multimedia framework
+Description: Phonon multimedia framework - metapackage
Standardize short description with our usual general common
description - specific description style.
This is repeated over packages.
Phonon is the Qt 4 multimedia API, which provides a task-oriented abstraction
layer for capturing, mixing, processing, and playing audio and video content.
.
- This metapackage ensures that a user has working Phonon configuration
+ This metapackage ensures that a user has a working Phonon configuration
installed on the system (the core library and at least one backend).
Missing article.
@@ -55,12 +55,12 @@
${sameVersionDep:libqt4-dev:libphononexperimental4}
Replaces: libphonon-dev ( 4:4.6.0really4.4.4)
Breaks: libphonon-dev ( 4:4.6.0really4.4.4)
-Description: development files for the Phonon-Experimental library
+Description: Phonon-Experimental multimedia framework - development files
Phonon is the Qt 4 multimedia API, which provides a task-oriented abstraction
layer for capturing, mixing, processing, and playing audio and video content.
.
This package contains the development files needed to build Phonon backends or
- internal applications which need the Phonon-Experimental library. Third party
+ internal applications which need the Phonon-Experimental library. Third-party
applications should not depend on this library. Please read README.Debian if
you consider to Build-Depend on this package.
Missing dash in third-party
Template: phonon-backend-null/isnt_functional_title
Type: title
_Description: Warning: Phonon is not functional
Template: phonon-backend-null/isnt_functional
Type: error
#flag:comment:4
# Translators: do not translate variable names
# only translate (recommended) (the one in parenthesis)
_Description: Missing backend for Phonon
Phonon-based (i.e. most KDE and some Qt) applications will produce no audio or
video output because there is no real Phonon backend installed on this system.
Typically, this
Re: [RFR] templates://phonon/{phonon-backend-null.templates}
Hello, On antradienis 22 Kovas 2011 08:23:23 Christian PERRIER wrote: I think that error is more well suited for this warning I disagree. Warning is not an error by definition. It is not wrong to have phonon-backend-null installed if you know what you are doing and you are doing this intentionally. As I made some changes to prefer phonon-backend-null whenever libphonon-dev is installed (for buildds), I added this warning to avoid *accidental* installations of this package on the user systems. What is more, from debconf-devel(7): error This datatype is used for error messages, such as input validation errors. Debconf will show a question of this type even if the priority is too high or the user has already seen it. The behaviour of this datatype clearly conflicts with my intentions and current scripts. I will not accept this change. Other changes are ok. -- Modestas Vainius mo...@debian.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [RFR] templates://phonon/{phonon-backend-null.templates}
(My patch goes along with the request to revert to Type: note.) Christian PERRIER wrote: +_Description: Missing backend for Phonon The spelling backend is developerese - the standard English spelling is back end (and it's not that dictionaries are lagging behind normal usage; see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_end;). But since I've already seen how hard it is to get developers to accept this I'll suggest the compromise form back-end within English text. + Phonon-based (i.e. most KDE and some Qt) applications will produce no audio or + video output because there is no real Phonon backend installed on this system. Typically, this is an undesirable configuration which you might have gotten to unintentionally. This use of -based is a potentially confusing shorthand - things like KTorrent aren't derivatives of Phonon, they just depend on it. Maybe we could simplify the syntax a bit and say: Applications using Phonon (the Qt multimedia framework for KDE) will produce no audio or video output because there is no real Phonon back-end installed on this system. This is typically an unintended configuration. . + If you wish to restore full Phonon multimedia capabilities, you + should install a real Phonon backend. The following Phonon + backend packages seem to be available for this system at the moment: As long as we can trust the detection (what does this depend on?) we could rely on the colon to imply most of this: To restore full Phonon multimedia capabilities, install one of the Phonon back-end packages which are currently available for this system: (This turns install back into an imperative, but with the preceding purpose clause it's advisory rather than a command.) The package descriptions have really good boilerplate already, so my corrections are mostly very fiddly: Package: phonon [...] + This metapackage ensures that a user has a working Phonon configuration installed on the system (the core library and at least one backend). Package installations work per-computer, not per-user. This metapackage ensures that the system has a working Phonon configuration installed (the core library and at least one back-end). Package: libphonon-dev [...] This package contains the development files needed to build Qt 4 applications using Phonon cross-platform multimedia framework. ^the Package: libphononexperimental-dev [...] +Description: Phonon-Experimental multimedia framework - development files Or should these packages be Description: Phonon multimedia framework - experimental library development files ...and so on? But that's not in my patch. This package contains the development files needed to build Phonon backends or + internal applications which need the Phonon-Experimental library. Third-party applications should not depend on this library. Please read README.Debian if you consider to Build-Depend on this package. That should be if you are considering Build-Depending on..., or just if you are considering a build-dependency on Package: libphononexperimental4 [...] This package contains the Phonon-Experimental library which might be needed by ^, Phonon backends or other internal applications. Third-party applications should not depend on this library. Please read README.Debian before using this library. Package: phonon-backend-null [...] This package does not provide any real Phonon backend. It can be used to disable Phonon audio/video capabilities. Please note that Phonon behaviour with this package installed has not been well tested. s/behaviour/behavior/ Package: phonon-dbg [...] This package contains debugging symbols of the Phonon library and main backends You should install this package when you are about to report a crash or want to debug a problem with Phonon or its backends. This package contains debugging symbols for the Phonon library and its main back-ends. Install it if you want to report a crash or debug a problem with Phonon or its back-ends. * * * Obligatory Why-The-Name Appendix: http://phonon.kde.org/cms/1020 -- JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package Template: phonon-backend-null/isnt_functional_title Type: title _Description: Warning: Phonon is not functional Template: phonon-backend-null/isnt_functional Type: note #flag:comment:4 # Translators: do not translate variable names # only translate (recommended) (the one in parenthesis) _Description: Missing backend for Phonon Applications using Phonon (the Qt multimedia framework for KDE) will produce no audio or video output because there is no real Phonon back-end installed on this system. This is typically an unintended configuration. . To restore full Phonon multimedia capabilities, install one of the Phonon
Re: [RFR] templates://phonon/{phonon-backend-null.templates}
Quoting Modestas Vainius (mo...@debian.org): I disagree. Warning is not an error by definition. It is not wrong to have phonon-backend-null installed if you know what you are doing and you are doing this intentionally. As I made some changes to prefer phonon-backend-null whenever libphonon-dev is installed (for buildds), I added this warning to avoid *accidental* installations of this package on the user systems. This is a grey area. error datatype has the advantage of being displayed differently than simple notes (which users often tend to skip too quickly). But, anyway, I won't fight that much on this..:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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