Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: general: unable to mount fixed drives
>> If you are bothered or whatever, please make me talk with a hal developer, >> thanks >You are not forbidden to do anything. Just look at >http://packages.debian.org/hal and contact the maintainer yourself. But, >please, KDE has nothing to do with this "bug", that's hal refusing your >action. Yes, i just asked you how to avoid this, expecting that kde people use to deal with this kind of things.. >I sincerely tried to explain "workarounds" for you but you would not >listen. Your workaround was to use fstab? :D I told you, i simply can't :DDD >If some kubuntu livecd works for you (I bet knoppix and/or sidux >would >work the same way too, because they are LiveCDs. I would expect the LiveCD to >behave so), that's great. But official Debian installation is not a LiveCD. >You are bothering the wrong people. I think you are just the wrong people, i asked kubuntu guys and finally figured out that they simply use kdesu as workaround! (in both live and installed version, but the live does not even ask for the password, because is a livecd...) This is what we call workaround... Now i have to choose: apply this teqnique to my system, or change the base distro...I'm working on this system since 2 years... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: bug/issue closed
>You already have got several good answers about your problem, and you seem >not >value this and even try to mock us. So there is not much more to answer/help >here. Have you really read this report? Of what answers are you talking about? It was only fake random help, if you read this carefully you'll see it. The only answers i want are: 1) if this is a bug how to fix it 2) if it is a debian security choise (very good,but a big problem for me), show me where is it!! I mean the file in wich i can read this written down, and hopefully change it... If you are bothered or whatever, please make me talk with a hal developer, thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives. Nobody knows how to fix this...
> I reassigned this bug to "konqueror", hoping that someone who knows > konqueror better could help you (I don't really know konqueror myself, > and neither do many people who read bugreports for "general", I think). >Your initial report mentioned konqueror and hal; either of those would >have been more relevant than "general". You are right, but maybe "hal" it's more specific for my question...And anyway, now we know that nobody that know konqueror can help me... In the beginning i was not sure if it was a hal or konqueror or whateverelse thing, so i choosed general... Thank to you now i know that is a debian thing :P I'm kidding, i think all the concept behind debian are very good, so please don't make me change distro cause of this stupid problem, i spent 2 years to reach this point with my debian system...one of them asking for a decent workaround for this hal thing... Please please help me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives. Nobody knows how to fix this...
>> Not like windows... You mean that what people say about linux is true? Is >> made for developers only? :D Then i am a developer, but i still don't want >> to edit a file to mount a drive :DD >> I understand the policy thing, but i simply disagree,so how to change this >> behavior? >> I have to write all possible entry from hda1 to hdz99 to fstab? :D >Come on. This is starting to sound ridiculous. STARTING?!?! This started as an innocent question, you guys are answering me with random quote or random google link, you made this ridiculous! >> Live cd only, i ain't installed anything >You could have said this earlier. Debian does have some LiveCDs but not >something very official. Read http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/, wiki, >ask >on mailing list or their IRC. Debian Live is highly customizable and it might >be that simply LiveCD provider missed some option or something. Anyway, this >is not konqueror problem and it is not really a bug but rather a user >support >question. It might be a wishlist bug if the feature is not implemented. So >feel free to reopen the bug on the real package (live cd generator) it >belongs >to. konqueror behaviour is just fine with regard to system policies. >>yes, i know, read the "original bug report" please (as you mentioned before, >>quoting me) >Again, I'll quote you "Installing debian etch on several computers and with 5 >different kernels (2.6.15, 18, 22, 24 and 25)". Nothing about LiveCD at all. >It is possible to configure user,users options in the Debian Installer. THE KUBUNTU TEST WAS FROM THE LIVE CD!! I was talking about kunbuntu, you read 1 line every 5 ?!? And i don't want a "not very official" live debian, i just want to change the policy, so should you simply tell me where i can found the line that make hal refuse to mount my disks? Or tell me who knows! Anyway, i started this as "general", Stéphane Glondu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> reassigned this to "konqueror" (don't know why, it's mounting problem, with dolphin it's the same thing), i think "hal" it's even better... Live cd generator? I disagree (does not make much sense to me), but reassign this to whatever you want... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives. Nobody knows how to fix this...
>> Can i change this behavior? >> What can i do, better than open a shell and manual mount? (i can't use >> fstab) And most of all: WHY? :P >Seriously, why can't you just premount __fixed disks__ on boot? If you don't >want to do that, use noauto option in conjunction with the user (or users) >option in /etc/fstab. Then as I said you will be able to mount the disk via >media:/ No, can't! I simply want a system that works everywere, not a system that force me to edit some files to use it. If i have to tell the system wich disk i have, then i'm the system! My system has to work FOR me, not WITH me... This mean live distro... >> Ahahaha are you kidding me? Obiously sometimes i need also to mount some >> fixed harddisks :D >Sure you do. But you know Linux is not some Windows and if everyone could >premount a fixed disk by default, that would pose a security risk. Not like windows... You mean that what people say about linux is true? Is made for developers only? :D Then i am a developer, but i still don't want to edit a file to mount a drive :DD I understand the policy thing, but i simply disagree,so how to change this behavior? I have to write all possible entry from hda1 to hdz99 to fstab? :D >> Anyway, with some other distribution i tried (the last one is kubuntu >> 8.04.1-desktop, yesterday) i can mount fixed harddisk just like removable, >> so...? >Probably because ubuntu installer adds your disk to /etc/fstab with noauto >and >user options. Live cd only, i ain't installed anything >Or ubuntu hacked their KDE and hal/permissions in the way that >it does not look like the real KDE/Linux anymore. Mmmm, i'll ask kubuntu people... >It _might_ be possible to >mount fixed disks via hal but I'm not really sure about that. How else? It looks like hal... >P.S. NTFS support in HAL-mounting is known to be broken. yes, i know, read the "original bug report" please (as you mentioned before, quoting me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives. Nobody knows how to fix this...
>> Thank you for your reply, but isn't avoid this the purpose of hal? >No, hal deals only with removable drives. It refuses to mount all fixed >drives, /etc/fstab based mounting is KDE media feature. Can i change this behavior? What can i do, better than open a shell and manual mount? (i can't use fstab) And most of all: WHY? :P >> I'm on a pendrive system, to work on every pc, so... >From your original bug report: >>No problem with removable devices (pen or hard-disks)." Ahahaha are you kidding me? Obiously sometimes i need also to mount some fixed harddisks :D Anyway, with some other distribution i tried (the last one is kubuntu 8.04.1-desktop, yesterday) i can mount fixed harddisk just like removable, so...? Thanks again -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: Bug#492231: Re: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives. Nobody knows how to fix this...
> Of course it is not allowed unless they are in /etc/fstab > with users or appropriate user option. Thank you for your reply, but isn't avoid this the purpose of hal? I'm on a pendrive system, to work on every pc, so... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives. Nobody knows how to fix this...
Am i really the only one with this problem?? I got this on many different computer, with many different disks! And only with debian! Please help me... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: Re: konqueror: unable to mount fixed drives
>Have you tried this: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=736714 Cant's see any ntfs-tools in debian etch repository, ntftprogs it's the same package renamed? It contains tool for managing ntfs filesystems, but not for any type of configuration, so i guess not... Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#492231: (no subject)
Yes, have you tried "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options debian -ntfs" ?? The first one is this bug report, and the others are just question without answers, or this bug report again! :DD I'm with debian, and i have this problem with ntfs and fat partition, so... I think this is a different problem, that's why i wrote here... Any suggestion? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
