Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:48:24 +0200, ancow wrote:

 Multiarch being a release goal, I'd consider this issue release critical, but 
 maybe that's just me...
 
Release goal very much implies not release critical.

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-15 Thread Philipp Kern
Lisandro,

am Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 09:07:34PM -0300 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
 On the other hand, IMPOV, if it's RC, the real bug it's on the buildds/dpkg, 
 and it should be RC too.

the buildds really don't have anything to do with it. Maybe the infrastructure
should prevent people from doing binNMUs, but given that the non-multiarch use
was fixed by them it wouldn't be that great.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-15 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Mié 15 Aug 2012 08:52:55 Philipp Kern escribió:
 Lisandro,
 
 am Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 09:07:34PM -0300 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
  On the other hand, IMPOV, if it's RC, the real bug it's on the
  buildds/dpkg, and it should be RC too.
 
 the buildds really don't have anything to do with it. Maybe the
 infrastructure should prevent people from doing binNMUs, but given that
 the non-multiarch use was fixed by them it wouldn't be that great.

Thanks Philipp for the data :-)

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Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-14 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Mar 14 Aug 2012 20:48:24 ancow escribió:
[snip] 
 Multiarch being a release goal, I'd consider this issue release critical,
 but maybe that's just me...

This is the part I don't really know. If it's considered RC, then things 
change, but so far no one confirmed nor denied me this.

On the other hand, IMPOV, if it's RC, the real bug it's on the buildds/dpkg, 
and it should be RC too.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-14 Thread ancow
Am Mittwoch 15.08.2012, 01:24:48 schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer:
 We (as in pkg-kde team) have decided to avoid reuploading Qt for some more
 time in case some other bug appears. On the other hand, I really don't know
 if this kind of upload would be acceptable by the RT for unblock.

Seeing as how the buggy Qt version has made it into wheezy now, do you think 
you could reconsider that stance? Or do you consider multiarch issues too 
unimportant to rectify this?

Multiarch being a release goal, I'd consider this issue release critical, but 
maybe that's just me...

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Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-11 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 22:43 +0800, YunQiang Su wrote:
 I update my system (Sid) just mow, and got some errors due to BinNUM of QT.

and have you discussed this with the maintainers, who requested the
binNMU?  (CCed)

 I aware of the technical debate on multiarch and binnum, it seems that all 
 guys
 there have their sufficient arguments. It's great technical debate, WHILE:
 
 The problem is there unsloved, and USERs are using my system, and
 We know exactly that the binnum of some packages will broken system certainly.

There's no need to shout.  It really doesn't help your point.

If you're running a multi-user system and basing it on sid, you really
have to expect some breakage, multi-arch or not.

 Why we still BinNMU these packages before this problem completely resolved?
 
 Must we?

Well it avoids tying up several hours of buildd time on architectures
not affected by the issue the binNMU was scheduled for (i.e. 9/14).

Regards,

Adam


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Re: BinNMU breaks QT4

2012-08-11 Thread YunQiang Su
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Adam D. Barratt
a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 22:43 +0800, YunQiang Su wrote:
 I update my system (Sid) just mow, and got some errors due to BinNUM of QT.

 and have you discussed this with the maintainers, who requested the
 binNMU?  (CCed)

 I aware of the technical debate on multiarch and binnum, it seems that all 
 guys
 there have their sufficient arguments. It's great technical debate, WHILE:

 The problem is there unsloved, and USERs are using my system, and
 We know exactly that the binnum of some packages will broken system 
 certainly.

 There's no need to shout.  It really doesn't help your point.

 If you're running a multi-user system and basing it on sid, you really
 have to expect some breakage, multi-arch or not.

 Why we still BinNMU these packages before this problem completely resolved?

 Must we?

 Well it avoids tying up several hours of buildd time on architectures
 not affected by the issue the binNMU was scheduled for (i.e. 9/14).

I install both i386 and amd64, when I upgrade, both of them are built ok.
etc, I upgrade i386 and amd64 at the same time.
 Regards,

 Adam




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