Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
[Petter Reinholdtsen] We investigated this issue a bit on IRC, and two workarounds were discovered. Either init.d/kdm can set KDEROOTDIR to some more sensible location (like /var/lib/kdm/). This will make kdm stop creating files in the root users home directory, and is a more proper fix. Given that squeeze is frozen, I suggest this is done to kdm quickly to get a fix into Squeeze before it release. An alternative to avoid the config migration dialog when root log in for the first time, is to change kaboom to look for ~/.kde/share/ instead of just ~/.kde/. The files would still be created by kdm in ~root/.kde/, but the dialog would no longer show up. This should probably be done too. For Debian Edu, we have implemented a workaround and touch /root/.local/kaboom during installation to make sure kaboom do not show up when the root user log in for the first time. I suspect this bug should be release critical, but am not sure so I have not raised the severity. Asked on #debian-release for their view, but did not get a definite answer. Would be nice to have some comment on this issue before Squeeze is released. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100810100649.ge16...@login2.uio.no
Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
Btw, this bug is fixed upstream, as kdm 4.5 now runs as a separate kdm user, which has no $HOME and thus there are no such files created anywhere. We hoped to push 4.5 for squeeze, but unfortunately this is not possible anymore, so it seems we will have to work it around. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimjravag27ktylvdqmmkltrp0y02q_teju5n...@mail.gmail.com
Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
Hello, On antradienis 10 Rugpjūtis 2010 13:06:49 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Petter Reinholdtsen] We investigated this issue a bit on IRC, and two workarounds were discovered. Either init.d/kdm can set KDEROOTDIR to some more sensible location (like /var/lib/kdm/). This will make kdm stop creating files in the root users home directory, and is a more proper fix. Given that squeeze is frozen, I suggest this is done to kdm quickly to get a fix into Squeeze before it release. You're welcome to propose patches. An alternative to avoid the config migration dialog when root log in for the first time, is to change kaboom to look for ~/.kde/share/ instead of just ~/.kde/. The files would still be created by kdm in ~root/.kde/, but the dialog would no longer show up. This should probably be done too. For Debian Edu, we have implemented a workaround and touch /root/.local/kaboom during installation to make sure kaboom do not show up when the root user log in for the first time. I suspect this bug should be release critical, but am not sure so I have not raised the severity. Asked on #debian-release for their view, but did not get a definite answer. First of all, nobody should login to desktop as root. Secondly, I'm not denying that there is an issue about kdm creating useless files, but there is nothing critical or RC about it given the former. kaboom could be smarter in this case but again there is nothing RC about it. Would be nice to have some comment on this issue before Squeeze is released. Happy hacking, Yes, as soon as the patch is available, we might consider it. Happy hacking signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
[Modestas Vainius] Secondly, I'm not denying that there is an issue about kdm creating useless files, but there is nothing critical or RC about it given the former. kaboom could be smarter in this case but again there is nothing RC about it. If this is the stance of the KDE maintainence team, as in willing to release Squeeze with kdm producing files in /root/.kde/ when started after boot and the root user to get a misleading and confusing migrate configuration dialog when logging in for the first time on a freshly installed machine, I'll spend my time elsewhere. Unless told otherwise, I will take it that your view is shared by the rest of the KDE team, and thus leave this resolution of issue for a future upgrade of KDE. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100810113312.gg16...@login2.uio.no
Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
Hello, On antradienis 10 Rugpjūtis 2010 14:33:12 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Modestas Vainius] Secondly, I'm not denying that there is an issue about kdm creating useless files, but there is nothing critical or RC about it given the former. kaboom could be smarter in this case but again there is nothing RC about it. If this is the stance of the KDE maintainence team, as in willing to release Squeeze with kdm producing files in /root/.kde/ when started after boot and the root user to get a misleading and confusing migrate configuration dialog when logging in for the first time on a freshly installed machine, I'll spend my time elsewhere. Unless told otherwise, I will take it that your view is shared by the rest of the KDE team, and thus leave this resolution of issue for a future upgrade of KDE. Petter, please be more constructive. I still have not heard why this bug should be either grave (users are not supposed to login to desktop with root user. Those who do are not in majority and are doing something wrong), nor serious (it does not violate debian policy) nor critical (which basically is a more severe level of grave). So that's how I see your words: unless you bump severity to RC for no good reason, I refuse to help. And yeah, it's all KDE team's fault!. Oh, that's really helpful. As I have already said in my previous mail, if you want the issue solved, you're welcome to propose a good patch. Just to be sure that we are on the same ship here: if you want to force unjustified RC severity upon us because other people would be forced to work on the issue, such collaboration won't work well. If you're afraid that your efforts might be wasted, well it is all up to release team but we will try to include your fix. We can't promise anything because final word is not ours so, really, all the heat is pointed towards the wrong direction. -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
We investigated this issue a bit on IRC, and two workarounds were discovered. Either init.d/kdm can set KDEROOTDIR to some more sensible location (like /var/lib/kdm/). This will make kdm stop creating files in the root users home directory, and is a more proper fix. An alternative to avoid the config migration dialog when root log in for the first time, is to change kaboom to look for ~/.kde/share/ instead of just ~/.kde/. The files would still be created by kdm in ~root/.kde/, but the dialog would no longer show up. Not sure which option is prefered. Perhaps both should be implemented? Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100626093126.gc7...@login2.uio.no
Bug#582568: kdm: causes kaboom to show upgrade dialog on first root login
Package: libkdecore5 Version: 4:4.4.3-1 Severity: important User: debian-...@lists.debian.org UserTags: debian-edu When kdm is started, these files are created in ~root/.kde/: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 12 feb. 21:32 cache-tjener.intern - /var/tmp/kdecache-root lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 12 feb. 21:33 tmp-tjener.intern - /tmp/kde-root Their existence causes the first login with root to show an configuration upgrade dialog, which is unwanted when logging in for the first time. See #570784 and #570925 for more information. Perhaps the kaboom bug should be merged with this one? I believe it is a bad idea for kdm to create files in ~root/ as it is not guaranteed to be writable. With LTSP, / is read-only, and only selected directories in /var/ are made writable by bind-mounting to a tmpfs directory. I was going to report this against kdm, but Sune told me to report it against libkdecore5 instead. Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2flbpc92dku@login1.uio.no
