Bug#585097: kde-standard: change update-notifier-kde from depends to recommends

2010-06-14 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:30:16AM +0200, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
 kde-standard recommends freespacenotifier and network-manager-kde.
 update-notifier-kde should also have the status of recommends, not 
 depends.

Seconded.  Nothing at all of the ramble, though.

In my case the clients are centrally updated and users suddenly getting
update notifications they cannot do anything about anyway would be annoying
at best.  Especially as clients are not supposed to be upgraded locally
even by an admin.

As update-notifier-kde is not an integral component of KDE I'd like to ask
you to demote this dependency.  I know from other meta-packages in the Gnome
set that demotion of Gnome components is disliked (like gdm, when kdm's
installed), but in this case that's a package added by Debian anyway.

Kind regards and thanks for considering,
Philipp Kern



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Bug#585097: kde-standard: change update-notifier-kde from depends to recommends

2010-06-14 Thread Modestas Vainius
tags 585097 pending
thanks

Hello,

On pirmadienis 14 Birželis 2010 10:14:08 Philipp Kern wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 08:30:16AM +0200, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
  kde-standard recommends freespacenotifier and network-manager-kde.
  update-notifier-kde should also have the status of recommends, not
  depends.
 
 Seconded.  Nothing at all of the ramble, though.

It's pending.

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Bug#585097: kde-standard: change update-notifier-kde from depends to recommends

2010-06-09 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Package: kde-standard
Version: 5:62
Severity: normal


kde-standard recommends freespacenotifier and network-manager-kde.
update-notifier-kde should also have the status of recommends, not depends.
Indeed, these are all quite *invasive* background daemons that should not
be imposed on kde-standard users. The current situation forced me
to uninstall the kde-standard meta-package and to manually select
many of its components.

Note that these daemons may break other standard Debian system functionality
(network-manager breaks standard wpa-suppleant usage, update-notifier breaks
other packages making use of motd, for example).

Also, but this is a matter of (good) taste, such daemons smell of
Microsoft Windows practices, not standard unix-like administration.
Let users choose this if they wish, perhaps through another metapackage.

Thank you.

Alan

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages kde-standard depends on:
ii  akregator 4:4.4.4-1  RSS/Atom feed aggregator for KDE
ii  ark   4:4.4.4-1  archive utility for KDE 4
ii  dragonplayer  4:4.4.4-1  simple KDE video player
ii  gwenview  4:4.4.4-1  image viewer for KDE 4
ii  hal   0.5.14-2   Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  juk   4:4.4.4-1  music jukebox for KDE
ii  kaddressbook  4:4.4.4-1  KDE address book
ii  kate  4:4.4.4-1  KDE 4 Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcalc 4:4.4.4-1  calculator for KDE 4
ii  kde-plasma-desktop5:62   the KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal
ii  kde-plasma-netbook5:62   the KDE Plasma Netbook and minimal
ii  kdeplasma-addons  4:4.4.4-1  addons for KDE 4 Plasma - metapack
ii  khelpcenter4  4:4.4.4-1  Help Center for KDE 4
ii  kmail 4:4.4.4-1  KDE Email client
ii  kmix  4:4.4.4-1  volume control and mixer for KDE
ii  knotes4:4.4.4-1  KDE sticky notes
ii  kopete4:4.4.4-1  instant messenger for KDE 4
ii  korganizer4:4.4.4-1  KDE personal organizer
ii  kscreensaver  4:4.4.4-1  Additional screensavers released w
ii  ksnapshot 4:4.4.4-1  screen capture tool for KDE 4
ii  kwalletmanager4:4.4.4-1  secure password wallet manager for
ii  okular4:4.4.4-1  document viewer for KDE 4
ii  plasma-desktopthemes-artwork  4:4.4.4-1  desktop themes for KDE
ii  polkit-kde-1  0.95.1-2   KDE dialogs for PolicyKit
ii  sweeper   4:4.4.4-1  history and temporary file cleaner
pn  update-notifier-kde   none (no description available)

Versions of packages kde-standard recommends:
pn  freespacenotifier none (no description available)
ii  konq-plugins  4:4.4.0-2  plugins for Konqueror, the KDE fil
pn  network-manager-kde   none (no description available)

Versions of packages kde-standard suggests:
pn  kde-l10n  none (no description available)
ii  kde-plasma-desktop5:62   the KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal
ii  kde-plasma-netbook5:62   the KDE Plasma Netbook and minimal



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