Bug#588080: kde-standard should not depend on dragonplayer

2010-07-05 Thread Modestas Vainius
severity 588080 wishlist
thanks

Hello,

On sekmadienis 04 Liepa 2010 20:44:42 Alexander Gerasiov wrote:
 Package: kde-standard
 Severity: normal
 
 Hi there.
 
 I dislike dragonplayer, because is sucks. I undestand that kde-multimedia
 should depend on it and could not to use kde-multimedia metapackage. But I
 found that since last update kde-standard also depends on dragonplayer.
 This makes me pain. It installs to system and kde use it by default
 instead of my lovely mplayer. But kde itself could work without
 dragonplayer fine. This is just one of it's multimedia packages. Please,
 please, please remove this crappy dependence.

dragonplayer is a default KDE SC media player. Until KDE SC has something 
better to offer, I don't see a good alternative. kde-standard package cannot 
come without media player these days.

You can set preferred player via file type associations in System Settings.

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Bug#588080: kde-standard should not depend on dragonplayer

2010-07-05 Thread Alexander GQ Gerasiov
Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:30:27 +0300
Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu wrote:

 severity 588080 wishlist
 thanks
 
 Hello,
 
 On sekmadienis 04 Liepa 2010 20:44:42 Alexander Gerasiov wrote:
  Package: kde-standard
  Severity: normal
  
  Hi there.
  
  I dislike dragonplayer, because is sucks. I undestand that
  kde-multimedia should depend on it and could not to use
  kde-multimedia metapackage. But I found that since last update
  kde-standard also depends on dragonplayer. This makes me pain. It
  installs to system and kde use it by default instead of my lovely
  mplayer. But kde itself could work without dragonplayer fine. This
  is just one of it's multimedia packages. Please, please, please
  remove this crappy dependence.
 
 dragonplayer is a default KDE SC media player.
Sure. kde-multimedia depends on it and this is enough.

 Until KDE SC has
 something better to offer, I don't see a good alternative.
 kde-standard package cannot come without media player these days.
Which functionality would be broken in kde-base if there will be no
mediaplayer? If there will be another mediaplayer (mplayer, totem)?

In case if kde-base really need mediaplayer:
Should is depend on it or just recommend?
Is it possible to use a dependency with alternatives?


 You can set preferred player via file type associations in System
 Settings.
Sure, but 
1. this is not system-wide (may be there are system-wide settings
somewhere, I'm not really interested in)
2. this is annoing to turn it off for every file type 
3. why user need to have dragonplayer installed if he use another
   player
 


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Bug#588080: kde-standard should not depend on dragonplayer

2010-07-05 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On pirmadienis 05 Liepa 2010 14:27:52 Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote:
 Sure. kde-multimedia depends on it and this is enough.
 
  Until KDE SC has
  something better to offer, I don't see a good alternative.
  kde-standard package cannot come without media player these days.
 
 Which functionality would be broken in kde-base if there will be no
 mediaplayer? If there will be another mediaplayer (mplayer, totem)?

kde-standard is a metapackage which pulls a standard set of packages which 
most KDE users would find useful (in our opinion). We think that a media 
player is mandatory nowadays. If you hate particular software, remove kde-
standard (which is just a metapackage) and you'll be able to get rid of the 
dragonplayer. We do not aim nor can adhere to everybody's personal wishes.

You can also choose from kde-minimal alike kde-plasma-desktop and kde-plasma-
netbook but they are really minimal.

 In case if kde-base really need mediaplayer:
 Should is depend on it or just recommend?
 Is it possible to use a dependency with alternatives?

People have Recommends disabled so a media player is Depends. In fact, I could 
agree with sane alternative Depends. The problem is that there is no other 
official KDE SC media player.

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Bug#588080: kde-standard should not depend on dragonplayer

2010-07-04 Thread Alexander Gerasiov
Package: kde-standard
Severity: normal

Hi there.

I dislike dragonplayer, because is sucks. I undestand that kde-multimedia 
should depend on it and could not to use kde-multimedia metapackage. But I 
found that since last update kde-standard also depends on dragonplayer. This 
makes me pain. It installs to system and kde use it by default instead of my 
lovely mplayer. But kde itself could work without dragonplayer fine. This is 
just one of it's multimedia packages. Please, please, please remove this crappy 
dependence.

With love, Antonina.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing-proposed-updates
  APT policy: (680, 'testing-proposed-updates'), (680, 'testing'), (670, 
'proposed-updates'), (670, 'stable'), (600, 'unstable'), (550, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages kde-standard depends on:
ii  akregator 4:4.4.4-1  RSS/Atom feed aggregator for KDE
ii  ark   4:4.4.4-1  archive utility for KDE 4
pn  dragonplayer  none (no description available)
ii  gwenview  4:4.4.4-1  image viewer for KDE 4
ii  hal   0.5.14-2   Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  juk   4:4.4.4-1  music jukebox for KDE
ii  kaddressbook  4:4.4.4-1  KDE address book
ii  kate  4:4.4.4-1  KDE 4 Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcalc 4:4.4.4-1  calculator for KDE 4
ii  kde-plasma-desktop5:63   the KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal
ii  kdeplasma-addons  4:4.4.4-1  addons for KDE 4 Plasma - metapack
ii  khelpcenter4  4:4.4.4-1  Help Center for KDE 4
ii  kmail 4:4.4.4-1  KDE Email client
ii  kmix  4:4.4.4-1  volume control and mixer for KDE
ii  knotes4:4.4.4-1  KDE sticky notes
ii  kopete4:4.4.4-1  instant messenger for KDE 4
ii  korganizer4:4.4.4-1  KDE personal organizer
ii  kscreensaver  4:4.4.4-1  Additional screensavers released w
ii  ksnapshot 4:4.4.4-1  screen capture tool for KDE 4
ii  kwalletmanager4:4.4.4-1  secure password wallet manager for
ii  okular4:4.4.4-1  document viewer for KDE 4
ii  plasma-desktopthemes-artwork  4:4.4.4-1  desktop themes for KDE
ii  polkit-kde-1  0.95.1-2   KDE dialogs for PolicyKit
ii  sweeper   4:4.4.4-1  history and temporary file cleaner

Versions of packages kde-standard recommends:
ii  freespacenotifier 0.0.1~svn1125155-1 free space notification module for
ii  konq-plugins  4:4.4.0-2  plugins for Konqueror, the KDE fil
ii  network-manager-kde   1:0.9~svn1141976-1 KDE system tray applet for control
ii  update-notifier-kde   1.0Update notifier for the KDE Plasma

Versions of packages kde-standard suggests:
ii  kde-l10n-ru [kde-l10n]4:4.4.4-2  Russian (ru) localization files fo
ii  kde-plasma-desktop5:63   the KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal
pn  kde-plasma-netbooknone (no description available)



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