Bug#725887: Dropping NAS support
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 04:01:45PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Saturday 19 October 2013 13:48:08 Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > [snip] > > > Hi Moritz! > > > > > > The popcon is indeed low. But I also noted that libaudio2 it's a very > > > small > > > package (~175 kB uncompressed in amd64) and having the lib itself > > > installed > > > it's not a big problem as far as I understand (or does it triggers > > > something else I'm not aware?) > > > > nas recently had a DSA security update and when I tested the packages I > > wondered about the high popcon of libaudio2 in comparison to the actual nas > > server. > > > > How is the sound output configured in QT? Is it a system-wide setting (i.e. > > a a system with libaudio2 installed is only exploitable if QT is configured > > to use NAS)? > > Qt can only use NAS if and only if it's built with NAS support. Saddly this > doesn't generates an extra "plugin" or such, but integrates in libQtGui > itself. > > So either we keep it or fully remove it. I don't have a strong opinion on this issue, if you feel NAS is still useful for some users, please simply close the bug. Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131203173157.GF4967@pisco.westfalen.local
Bug#725887: Dropping NAS support
On Saturday 19 October 2013 13:48:08 Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: [snip] > > Hi Moritz! > > > > The popcon is indeed low. But I also noted that libaudio2 it's a very > > small > > package (~175 kB uncompressed in amd64) and having the lib itself > > installed > > it's not a big problem as far as I understand (or does it triggers > > something else I'm not aware?) > > nas recently had a DSA security update and when I tested the packages I > wondered about the high popcon of libaudio2 in comparison to the actual nas > server. > > How is the sound output configured in QT? Is it a system-wide setting (i.e. > a a system with libaudio2 installed is only exploitable if QT is configured > to use NAS)? Qt can only use NAS if and only if it's built with NAS support. Saddly this doesn't generates an extra "plugin" or such, but integrates in libQtGui itself. So either we keep it or fully remove it. -- I must confess, I was born at a very early age. -- Groucho Marx Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#725887: Dropping NAS support
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:50:28AM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > tag 725887 moreinfo > thanks > > On Wednesday 09 October 2013 18:54:24 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Package: qt4-x11 > > Severity: normal > > > > I suggest to remove NAS support from libqtgui4 or move it to a separate > > module which can be installed selectively. NAS is a vintage sound > > server and unlikely to be present on modern desktop system (since it > > would also fight with pulseaudio over sound device control). > > > > Passing -no-nas-sound to configure and dropping the build-dep on > > libaudio-dev resolves this. > > > > QT seems to be the main "culprit" for the relatively large installed base > > of libaudio2 compared to the NAS sound server itself: > > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=nas > > Hi Moritz! > > The popcon is indeed low. But I also noted that libaudio2 it's a very small > package (~175 kB uncompressed in amd64) and having the lib itself installed > it's not a big problem as far as I understand (or does it triggers something > else I'm not aware?) nas recently had a DSA security update and when I tested the packages I wondered about the high popcon of libaudio2 in comparison to the actual nas server. How is the sound output configured in QT? Is it a system-wide setting (i.e. a a system with libaudio2 installed is only exploitable if QT is configured to use NAS)? Cheers, Moritz > Yesterday I checked the possibility of adding it as a separate module but it > seems there is no way to do that. > > So, at least there is the intention of removing nas from Debian [0] I don't > think I'll remove the support. > > [0] For which I would wait for proper bugs+usertagging > > Kinds regards, Lisandro. > > -- > > Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ > http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019114807.GA6110@pisco.westfalen.local
Re: Bug#725887: Dropping NAS support
tag 725887 moreinfo thanks On Wednesday 09 October 2013 18:54:24 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Package: qt4-x11 > Severity: normal > > I suggest to remove NAS support from libqtgui4 or move it to a separate > module which can be installed selectively. NAS is a vintage sound > server and unlikely to be present on modern desktop system (since it > would also fight with pulseaudio over sound device control). > > Passing -no-nas-sound to configure and dropping the build-dep on > libaudio-dev resolves this. > > QT seems to be the main "culprit" for the relatively large installed base > of libaudio2 compared to the NAS sound server itself: > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=nas Hi Moritz! The popcon is indeed low. But I also noted that libaudio2 it's a very small package (~175 kB uncompressed in amd64) and having the lib itself installed it's not a big problem as far as I understand (or does it triggers something else I'm not aware?) Yesterday I checked the possibility of adding it as a separate module but it seems there is no way to do that. So, at least there is the intention of removing nas from Debian [0] I don't think I'll remove the support. [0] For which I would wait for proper bugs+usertagging Kinds regards, Lisandro. -- Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#725887: Dropping NAS support
Package: qt4-x11 Severity: normal I suggest to remove NAS support from libqtgui4 or move it to a separate module which can be installed selectively. NAS is a vintage sound server and unlikely to be present on modern desktop system (since it would also fight with pulseaudio over sound device control). Passing -no-nas-sound to configure and dropping the build-dep on libaudio-dev resolves this. QT seems to be the main "culprit" for the relatively large installed base of libaudio2 compared to the NAS sound server itself: http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=nas Cheers, Moritz -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.10-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131009165424.7897.96943.reportbug@pisco.westfalen.local
