Bug#788657: libutempter0: doesn't clean up unused/retired utempter group

2015-06-14 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey Felix

On Sun, 2015-06-14 at 11:46 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote:
 You can't be certain that there are no files on the system that have
 been chgrp to that group.
 If the group is removed its gid might get reused.

Sure,... which is IMHO one of the several general deficiencies of how
Debian handles their system users/groups.
But the same would apply to many other packages as well, which in fact
*do* remove their users/groups at purge, for many of them where it is
even much more likely that people actually used it.


 The cost of having one more entry in /etc/group is really small so
 I've decided not to remove the group on upgrade.
 
 See also https://wiki.debian.org/AccountHandlingInMaintainerScripts
 for some more discussion about the pros and cons of removing 
 accounts.

May I suggest then, that you add an entry to the NEWS file, where you
tell that this is no longer used, and people can typically safely
remove it if nothing on their system still uses these as owners?
Perhaps even giving a example find / -group foo command to look for
such files?

That way people would have a more likely chance to notice that change
and keep their systems consistent with what fresh installations would
have.


Thanks,
Chris.

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Bug#788657: libutempter0: doesn't clean up unused/retired utempter group

2015-06-14 Thread Felix Geyer
Hi,

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 00:35:31 +0200 Christoph Anton Mitterer 
cales...@scientia.net wrote:
 Package: libutempter0
 Version: 1.1.6-1
 Severity: normal
 
 
 Hi.
 
 Apparently with this release the group utempter is no longer used.
 This doesn't seem to be one of the base groups as defined by the
 base-passwd package.
 
 It is however not properly cleaned up, so legacy installations
 would keep it forever without any good reason.
 
 Could you please clean that up in one of the following uploads?

You can't be certain that there are no files on the system that have
been chgrp to that group.
If the group is removed its gid might get reused.

The cost of having one more entry in /etc/group is really small so
I've decided not to remove the group on upgrade.

See also https://wiki.debian.org/AccountHandlingInMaintainerScripts
for some more discussion about the pros and cons of removing accounts.

Cheers,
Felix


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Bug#788657: libutempter0: doesn't clean up unused/retired utempter group

2015-06-13 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Package: libutempter0
Version: 1.1.6-1
Severity: normal


Hi.

Apparently with this release the group utempter is no longer used.
This doesn't seem to be one of the base groups as defined by the
base-passwd package.

It is however not properly cleaned up, so legacy installations
would keep it forever without any good reason.

Could you please clean that up in one of the following uploads?


Cheers,
Chris.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.0.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages libutempter0 depends on:
ii  libc6  2.19-18

libutempter0 recommends no packages.

libutempter0 suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information


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