Re: Policy for Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group

2003-10-29 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:20:42PM +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote:
 I prepared a policy for the Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group, the document
 can be found at http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/debian-kde-policy.html 

Hi,

Just a few clarififications:

1. About alioth: Will we have the entire kde packages in alioth svn
   or just the debian/ dirs? I know we can't at the moment use pristine
   upstream tarballs, but having the entire source tree in our version
   managment feels like a HUGE waste of space, as we are supposed only
   to edit files under debian/ dirs..

2. About commits to module, I think we should rewrite it as:

- (5) Commits to a module may only be done if
+ (5) Commits to the TRUNK of a module may only be done if

  Creating a branch where to commit fixes and then letting primary
  maintainer to merge them to TRUNK if he finds them appropriate
  seems more intuitive than asking for permission for every commit.

  I'm refering TRUNK being here whatever we choose in svn to be the
  branch which next unstable upload will emarge from.

  Also, I think we should not be that strict for all commits. Strictly
  nonfunctional commits, like typofixes, better descriptions and
  documentation (Maybe even adding manpages) should be fix at will.

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Re: Policy for Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group

2003-10-29 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:30:42PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:20:42PM +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote:
  I prepared a policy for the Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group, the document
  can be found at http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/debian-kde-policy.html 
 
 Hi,
 
 Just a few clarififications:
 
 1. About alioth: Will we have the entire kde packages in alioth svn
or just the debian/ dirs? I know we can't at the moment use pristine
upstream tarballs, but having the entire source tree in our version
managment feels like a HUGE waste of space, as we are supposed only
to edit files under debian/ dirs..

agreed.

 2. About commits to module, I think we should rewrite it as:
 
 - (5) Commits to a module may only be done if
 + (5) Commits to the TRUNK of a module may only be done if
 
   Creating a branch where to commit fixes and then letting primary
   maintainer to merge them to TRUNK if he finds them appropriate
   seems more intuitive than asking for permission for every commit.
 
   I'm refering TRUNK being here whatever we choose in svn to be the
   branch which next unstable upload will emarge from.
 
   Also, I think we should not be that strict for all commits. Strictly
   nonfunctional commits, like typofixes, better descriptions and
   documentation (Maybe even adding manpages) should be fix at will.

agreed.


I will be getting the repo in a usable state within the next couple of
days.

Chris


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Re: Policy for Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group

2003-10-28 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
I was a bit scared reading about Chris Cheney orphaning his KDE packages
in the unreleased DWN and wnpp mailout... I'm glad to see that the group
discussed earlier was/is actually being created.

Now, some comments on
http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/debian-kde-policy.html

Reading paragraph 1(3), I worry about only allowing the group to remove
people doing malicious things... Perhaps some examples of malicious
behavior would be useful. E.g. knowingly going against the policy
document? Knowingly doing things that the Debian technical committee vote
is unacceptable for Debian?
-
Paragraph 1(2) should probably be clarified. If there are no
objections... If there are no formal objections... what's the time
period during which objections can be made? Perhaps people should be
revocable added during the objection period. I.e. added ad hoc, but if
there's an objection in time, then they can be removed without having
use paragraph 1(3).
-
Paragraph 2(8)
- (8) A primary port maintainer may turn down the rights given to him in
2.5, 2.6 and 2.7 and allow one member or all members of the Debian
Qt/KDE...
+ (8) A primary port maintainer may turn down the rights given to him in
2.5, 2.6 and 2.7 and allow some or all of the members of the Debian
Qt/KDE...

It is probably not desirable to limit co-maintainership to only one or
all.
-
Paragraph 2(9) talks about a consensus with the mailing list. Perhaps this
should be a consensus with the group?

Also, a semantic issues, it should be Changes to this policy, not file or
else you're contradicting the license of the file.
-

 Drew Daniels
P.S. please CC replies to me.



Policy for Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group

2003-10-19 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Hi folks,

I prepared a policy for the Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group, the document
can be found at http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/debian-kde-policy.html 

Can you (esp. the people mentioned as base members) read it and tell us
whether they want to lodge objections and if so what needs to be changed
in their opinion? And can those who do not have any objections please let
us know that too?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Policy for Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Group

2003-10-19 Thread Ben Burton

 Can you (esp. the people mentioned as base members) read it and tell us
 whether they want to lodge objections and if so what needs to be changed
 in their opinion? And can those who do not have any objections please let
 us know that too?

Further to my previous email:  My second question is how the proposed
development model (upload if you're the primary maintainer or have their
blessing) differs from the current model (upload if you're the debian
maintainer or NMU if you have their blessing)?

I guess I'm specifically wondering what advantages the new system would
have over the current system (which is more or less communal CVS
commits, maintainer uploads).

I think the biggest inconvenience I forsee is with the BTS - I'd have to
start keeping track of multiple maintainer email addresses, and it will
be more difficult to track the bugs in the packages that I'm looking
after amongst the significant noise of kdelibs, kdebase, qt, etc.

Ben. :)