Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
Hello Anton! ++ 09/11/00 18:38 +0200 - Anton Zinoviev: console-cyrillic is a package that comes to make the Cyrillic setup on the console easier and better. This package is based on the package console-tools-cyrillic by Vitus Vagner (ftp://ftp.ice.ru/pub/fonts/linux/console-tools-cyrillic-0.8.tar.gz). I think that we should include this package into console-tools. If it has some utilities that don't fit into console-tools, than thay can be packaged, but as I know the most part of c-t-cyrillic are fonts, keymaps and so on and there place is c-t package. BTW, russian part of original console-tools is very old and should be replaced. Yann? -- Peter Novodvorsky, IPLabs Linux Team member: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpxiHUOekhk8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: From: Peter Novodvorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ITP: console-cyrillic Hello Anton! ++ 09/11/00 18:38 +0200 - Anton Zinoviev: console-cyrillic is a package that comes to make the Cyrillic setup on the console easier and better. This package is based on the package console-tools-cyrillic by Vitus Vagner (ftp://ftp.ice.ru/pub/fonts/linux/console-tools-cyrillic-0.8.tar.gz). I think that we should include this package into console-tools. If it has some utilities that don't fit into console-tools, than thay can be packaged, but as I know the most part of c-t-cyrillic are fonts, keymaps and so on and there place is c-t package. BTW, russian part of original console-tools is very old and should be replaced. Yann? А ведь я Яну писал неоднократно. Даже шрифты аттачил, на случай если по URL-ке в письме сходить лениво. -- Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technical Officer Office:7-(095)-785-09-72 Communiware.Net Home: 7-(095)-135-46-61 http://www.communiware.net http://www.ice.ru/~vitus
Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Victor Wagner wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: From: Peter Novodvorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ITP: console-cyrillic Hello Anton! ++ 09/11/00 18:38 +0200 - Anton Zinoviev: console-cyrillic is a package that comes to make the Cyrillic setup on the console easier and better. This package is based on the package console-tools-cyrillic by Vitus Vagner (ftp://ftp.ice.ru/pub/fonts/linux/console-tools-cyrillic-0.8.tar.gz). I think that we should include this package into console-tools. If it has some utilities that don't fit into console-tools, than thay can be packaged, but as I know the most part of c-t-cyrillic are fonts, keymaps and so on and there place is c-t package. BTW, russian part of original console-tools is very old and should be replaced. Yann? А ведь я Яну писал неоднократно. Даже шрифты аттачил, на случай если по URL-ке в письме сходить лениво. По-моему надо более агрессивно относиться к таким вопросам. Завалить debian-user и debian-devel вопросами и жалобами публично заклеймляя Яна, отсослать тучу багрепортов, пошуметь в IRC. Нахудой конец собрать подписи (в смысле, е-мейл адреса) людей которые будут утверждать что c-t-c просто немерянно круче c-t и слезно просить включить c-t-c. Можно все личные письма которые ты ему слал выложить в формате mbox в инет и заорать на debian-devel - типа вон я ему наслал 10 раз письмо - гляньте как он на них реагирует. В конце концов проталкивание таких пакетов - вещь нужная всем. Все славяне поддержат. Можно от имени IPLabs (если они согласны) сделать press-release где очернить бюрократизм дебиановцев по отношению к i18n и запостить на сайты новостей типа linuxtoday.com Единственная проблема - на все это нужно время. Best regards, -Vlad
Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
++ 10/11/00 17:20 +0300 - Victor Wagner: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: А ведь я Яну писал неоднократно. Даже шрифты аттачил, на случай если по URL-ке в письме сходить лениво. Виктор, я знаю об этом. Но debian-devel, самое место, чтобы разобраться. ;-) -- Peter Novodvorsky, IPLabs Linux Team member: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpMaYzVKzMtb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Vlad Harchev wrote: В конце концов проталкивание таких пакетов - вещь нужная всем. Все славяне поддержат. Можно от имени IPLabs (если они согласны) сделать press-release где очернить бюрократизм дебиановцев по отношению к i18n и запостить на сайты новостей типа linuxtoday.com Единственная проблема - на все это нужно время. И желание. А я последнее время стал к этому наплевательски относиться. Нафига мне русификация консоли? Я вот на днях новый ноутбук купил, так на нем консоли русских букв нет. Зачем на машине с xdm русские буквы? Как правило, если на машине нет xdm (вернее, постоянно запущенного локального X-сервера), то на ней монитора нет вообще, а русификацией сериальной консоли обычно кто-то другой занимается. -- Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technical Officer Office:7-(095)-785-09-72 Communiware.Net Home: 7-(095)-135-46-61 http://www.communiware.net http://www.ice.ru/~vitus
Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
On 10.XI.2000 at 16:20 Peter Novodvorsky wrote: ++ 09/11/00 18:38 +0200 - Anton Zinoviev: console-cyrillic is a package that comes to make the Cyrillic setup on the console easier and better. I think that we should include this package into console-tools. If it has some utilities that don't fit into console-tools, than they can be packaged, but as I know the most part of c-t-cyrillic are fonts, keymaps and so on and there place is c-t package. BTW, Russian part of original console-tools is very old and should be replaced. Yann? Yes, most of the Cyrillic fonts in the package console-tools-data didn't have proper unicode map. I don't know is that problem resolved in the new version or not. If not, then they should be replaced with newer versions from the package console-tools-cyrillic of Victor Wagner and a bug report against console-tools-data can be submitted. The package console-tools-cyrillic contains some completely new Cyrillic fonts with very good design. It seams to me that it is not difficult to add to these fonts the symbols from ISO-8859-1,2,.. and make them useful not only for the Cyrillic languages. Then they should be included in the `console-tools-data' package because currently there is no good Unicode font in it. The Unicode fonts like LatArCyrHeb-??.psf.gz together with application character map such as /usr/share/consoletrans/iso01.acm.gz can be used with any encoding. So the application character maps from the package console-tools-cyrillic should be moved to console-tools-data package. They are only a few and are relatively small (about 800 bytes per encoding). Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ITP: console-cyrillic
console-cyrillic is a package that comes to make the Cyrillic setup on the console easier and better. It contains various Cyrillic fonts. It has Belarussian, two Bulgarian, Macedonian, two Russian, Serbian and Ukrainian keyboard mappings. For toggling between Latin and Cyrillic alphabets you can use CapsLock, RightAlt, RightShift, RightControl, Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Alt, Alt+Shift, LeftWinkey, RightWinkey and Menukey. For temporary switching between Latin and Cyrillic you can use RightAlt, LeftWinkey, RightWinkey and Menukey. Many Cyrillic encodings are supported: Apple-Cyrillic, CP855, CP866, CP1251, ISO-8859-5, KOI8-R, KOI8-U, MIK. The utility `cyr' can remember the user preferences, so he/she doesn't have to use many options or edit configuration file. The package uses Debconf and can setup Cyrillic on console at boot time. Other utilities: displayfont -- displays the console font on the screen, dumppsf -- converts console font to readable ASCII file, mkvgafont -- converts raw console font to BDF font, raw2psf -- adds unicode mapping to given raw console font This package is based on the package console-tools-cyrillic by Vitus Vagner (ftp://ftp.ice.ru/pub/fonts/linux/console-tools-cyrillic-0.8.tar.gz). Anton Zinoviev, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP: console-cyrillic
On 9.XI.2000 at 18:38 (+0200) Anton Zinoviev wrote: This package is based on the package console-tools-cyrillic by Vitus Vagner (ftp://ftp.ice.ru/pub/fonts/linux/console-tools-cyrillic-0.8.tar.gz). I apologize to the upstream maintainer for my mistake. His name is Victor Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Anton Zinoviev, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
