Status of d-i kernel transition for 2.6.14

2005-12-07 Thread Frans Pop
(CC'ing port mailing lists where the port does not have 2.6 support in d-i)

An update of the table of kernel versions.

General comments:
- CD images still use 2.6.12 as Etch is installed
- only x86 and sparc64 fully switched to 2.6.14 for sid_d-i
- powerpc and amd64 have uploaded new udebs, but not yet updated d-i config
- hppa should update kernel udebs to 2.6.14
- arm, mips, mipsel have initial (now outdated) 2.6 kernel udeb packaging
  in the d-i SVN repository, but never yet uploaded
- sparc32 was badly supported in 2.6.12 and thus does not have a 2.6 installer,
  possibly this will be implemented for a later version

The 2nd and 3rd columns in this table also show that a lot of arches do not
currently have 2.6 kernel udebs in the archive or at least do not have d-i
images that boot with a 2.6 kernel.
This situation is highly undesirable as 2.6 _is_ the preferred kernel for
most architectures when running unstable and will also be the main kernel
version for Etch.

The D-I Etch beta2 release is provisionally planned for the 2nd half of
January and should have the 2.6.15 kernel that is expected to be released
within the next few weeks.

Porters should really start implementing support for 2.6 in d-i for their
architecture in order to be ready for Etch and allow sufficient time for
testing and ironing out possible issues. Support for 2.6 should probably
be implemented in time for the D-I Etch beta3 release (at the very latest!).

Help in this effort is of course available from the rest of the d-i team
where needed.


arch udebbuild/config  base-installer  debian-cd
 --- - --- 
i386 2.6.14-2/2.4.27-2   2.6.14-2/2.4.27-2 2.6/2.4.27-22.6/2.4.27-2
alpha2.4.27-2/(2.6.12-1) 2.4.27-2  2.4.27-2
amd642.6.14-32.6.12-1  2.6 2.6
arm  2.4.27  2.4.272.4.27
hppa 2.6.12-12.6.12-1  2.6.12-1/2.4.27 2.6
ia64 *)  2.6.12-1/2.4.27-2   2.6.12-1/2.4.27-2 2.6/2.4.27-22.6/2.4.27-2
m68k 2.4.27/(2.6.12-1)   2.4.272.4.27
  mac2.2.25  2.2.252.2.25
mips 2.4.27  2.4.272.4.27
mipsel   2.4.27  2.4.272.4.27
powerpc  2.6.14-2/2.4.27 2.6.12-1/2.4.27   2.6/2.4.27
s390 2.4.27-22.4.27-2  2.4.27-2N/A
sparc32  2.4.27-22.4.27-2  2.4.27-2
sparc64  2.6.14-2/2.4.27-2   2.6.14-2/2.4.27-2 2.6/2.4.27-2

[1] 2.6.14-2 does not boot on IA64, waiting for 2.6.15

NOTE
A new 2.4.27 kernel for x86 has just been accepted into unstable so 2.4 kernel
udebs will also need updating soon.

Cheers,
Frans Pop


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Re: Debian installation media question.

2005-12-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 14:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I want to know if I can download Debian S/390, burn a CD and do most of
> the installation from the CD
> on the OS/2 system that supports the HMC?  I see from the site that
> "Support to ipl off an installation CD has been added back in the
> version of the installer that will be released with Etch".

Although with Etch you can boot off the CD, the installation is in fact no 
different from the other installation methods which means that most of 
the installation will be done over the network.
After setting up the network, you will be offered to continue the 
installation over an SSH connection. All installer components and 
packages are downloaded from mirrors.

If you burn a CD, you can however use that as a source to install 
additional packages after the reboot, although you may have to configure 
it manually.

See also this README file, which is included on the CD:
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-cd/trunk/data/etch/s390/README.boot?op=file&rev=0&sc=0

Cheers,
FJP


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Debian installation media question.

2005-12-07 Thread Ted . Keesey

I am new to Linux and Debian.  I would like to download Debian S/390 for installation on a 
z890 processor.  I have set up an LPAR for this purpose.  I will not be using z/VM.

I want to know if I can download Debian S/390, burn a CD and do most of the installation from the CD 
on the OS/2 system that supports the HMC?  I see from the site that "Support to ipl off an installation CD has 
been added back in the version of the installer that will be released with Etch".  

Without "Etch" I am not clear on how much of Debian I can install from a CD (the installer or the boot loader).
Do you know when "Etch" will be available?  Sounds like I may need it.

Could someone clarify this part of the Debian install process on the S/390?

Thank you.

Ted Keesey
Synoran 
Systems 390 Administrator

Re: kdevelop3 FTBS on alpha/mipsel/s390 (should be Dep-Wait)

2005-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:10:56AM +, Jeremy Laine wrote:

> (second try, I got 2 out of 3 emails wrong the first time round)

> I am having problems getting kdevelop3 to build on alpha, mipsel and 
> s390 due to unsatisfied Build-Depends:

> http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?packages=kdevelop3

> Is Dep-Wait supported by the corresponding buildd's or not yet?

FWIW:  Dep-Wait is a feature of wanna-build, not of the buildds.  So is
Auto-Dep-Wait, which is what I assume you're referring to; either way, it's
supported for all architectures.  But it's only automatic if w-b can figure
out that one of your package's build-dependencies in *unavailable*, rather
than *uninstallable*.

A Dep-Wait has been set now for kdevelop3 on the affected archs.

Cheers,
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Debian Developer   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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Re: kdevelop3 FTBS on alpha/mipsel/s390 (should be Dep-Wait)

2005-12-07 Thread Jeremy Laine

Hi!

(second try, I got 2 out of 3 emails wrong the first time round)

I am having problems getting kdevelop3 to build on alpha, mipsel and 
s390 due to unsatisfied Build-Depends:


http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?packages=kdevelop3

Is Dep-Wait supported by the corresponding buildd's or not yet?

Cheers,
Jeremy

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kdevelop3 FTBS on alpha/mipsel/s390 (should be Dep-Wait)

2005-12-07 Thread Jeremy Laine

Hi!

I am having problems getting kdevelop3 to build on alpha, mipsel and 
s390 due to unsatisfied Build-Depends:


http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?packages=kdevelop3

Is Dep-Wait supported by the corresponding buildd's or not yet?

Cheers,
Jeremy

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