Re: DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-17 Thread Charl Matthee

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:59:26PM -0600, Stefan Srdic wrote:

 Why can't I change the mc_forwarding parameter?

Do you have CONFIG_MROUTE compiled into your kernel?

 What exactly do these paramters do, and should I be toying around with
 them?

mc_forwarding enables/disables multicast routing [See ip-sysctl.txt in
your kernel docs]. You decide :)


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Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Nick Phillips

On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:

 nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the
 anchient crappy crypt before.. 
 
 now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... 

htpasswd


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apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Halil Demirezen


When I first install the Debian, I have specified apt source -
cdrom. But, after I downloaded a deb pack. into the harddisk, I could not
install it by using apt-get install ... 
Can you give example changes in the
/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/source.list file?

Should I configure this file or take another action to achieve installing
a deb package in the harddisk (e.g /dev/hda1).

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apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Halil Demirezen



Sevgi, Saygi, LINUX!!!

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Halil Demirezen wrote:

 
 When I first install the Debian, I have specified apt source -
 cdrom. But, after I downloaded a deb pack. into the harddisk, I could not
 install it by using apt-get install ... 
 Can you give example changes in the
 /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/source.list file?
 
 Should I configure this file or take another action to achieve installing
 a deb package in the harddisk (e.g /dev/hda1).
 
 Sevgi, Saygi, LINUX!!!
 (Love, Respect, LINUX!!!)
 
 


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Re: apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Sebastiaan

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Halil Demirezen wrote:

 
 When I first install the Debian, I have specified apt source -
 cdrom. But, after I downloaded a deb pack. into the harddisk, I could not
 install it by using apt-get install ... 
 Can you give example changes in the
 /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/source.list file?
 
Hello,

you can install an individual package by:
dpkg --install package.deb

But if you want to download more packages and use apt, add these lines to
/etc/apt/sources.list:
deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib  non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib

deb-src ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free


This will give you access to the stable (potato) and testing (woody)
archive, as well as to non-us, security updates and sources. Change
ftp.nl.uu.net with your favorite (nearby) server.
Then run:
apt-get update


If you install a package now with apt, dependencies are solved.


 Should I configure this file or take another action to achieve installing
 a deb package in the harddisk (e.g /dev/hda1).
 
You could have a local archive for packages, but that is only attractive
if you have losts of non-debian distributed packages.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Ethan Benson

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:29:45PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
 
  nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the
  anchient crappy crypt before.. 
  
  now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... 
 
 htpasswd

doesn't provide proper restrictions and authentication.  (for other
uses then sudo passwords).

whats really needed is a passwd command that behaves exactly the same
as passwd, only with alternate passwd files.

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http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/

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Re: apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Renfro

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 02:04:23PM +0200, Sebastiaan wrote:

 But if you want to download more packages and use apt, add these lines to
 /etc/apt/sources.list:
 deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free

...as his previously all-stable machine turns slowly into a testing
system.

 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib
 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib

And since most packages in testing will have higher version numbers
than those in either stable *or* in security, he won't get too many
security updates, either.

 deb-src ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free

And he will only have easy access to stable source code that will
be increasingly irrelevant to his rapidly-approaching-testing system.

Instead, how about:

deb ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
deb ftp://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free

and

deb-src ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian RELEASE main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US RELEASE/non-US main contrib non-free

(In the deb-src lines, use either stable, testing, or unstable where
I've indicated RELEASE)

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Re: apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Dresser

 Instead, how about:

 deb ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian potato main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free

 and

 deb-src ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian RELEASE main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US RELEASE/non-US main contrib non-free

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/ stable non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/

Over the years, this is what I seem to have accumulated.  Any comments/suggestions?
The proposed-updates, was because of a package not making it into security.d.o due to
whatever reason it was at the time.

Mike Dresser



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Re: Debian hosting an open relay?

2001-07-17 Thread Alex Pennace

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 01:54:48PM -0700, Wade Richards wrote:
 All of my mail from the debian-security list is appearing in my spam 
 folder, because it appears that murphy.debian.org is in the ORBS list.
 
 Does anyone know if this is a Debian problem (I find it hard to believe 
 that there really is an open relay), or an ORBS problem?

ORBS has closed down, and one of the orbs.org authoritative nameservers
has configured his nameserver to return positive responses for all
ORBS queries because Alan Brown refuses to remove him from the
nameserver list.


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Re: DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-17 Thread Stefan Srdic

Charl Matthee wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:59:26PM -0600, Stefan Srdic wrote:

  Why can't I change the mc_forwarding parameter?

 Do you have CONFIG_MROUTE compiled into your kernel?

Nope, I excluded the multicast routing option during the kernel configuration.
My Debian system is mainly used for a home desktop and a LAN server. I have no
need for some of the advanced options of the Linux kernel.

 mc_forwarding enables/disables multicast routing [See ip-sysctl.txt in
 your kernel docs]. You decide :)

 Ciao


 Charl

Thanks, I always apreciate the time and effort.

Stef



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Re: DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Stefan Srdic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010716 21:01]:
snip
 
 What exactly do these paramters do, and should I be toying around with
 them?
 

Sorry for the smarmy repsonse, but the answer to the second question
is at least not until you are able to answer the first question.

Too bad I can't help you answer the first question without doing some
reading myself... we'll see if somebody beats me to it.

Vineet


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Re: DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-17 Thread Charl Matthee
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:59:26PM -0600, Stefan Srdic wrote:

 Why can't I change the mc_forwarding parameter?

Do you have CONFIG_MROUTE compiled into your kernel?

 What exactly do these paramters do, and should I be toying around with
 them?

mc_forwarding enables/disables multicast routing [See ip-sysctl.txt in
your kernel docs]. You decide :)


Ciao

Charl
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  Left me chuckling
  In the mist
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__



Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:

 nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the
 anchient crappy crypt before.. 
 
 now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... 

htpasswd


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Don't feed the bats tonight.



apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Halil Demirezen

When I first install the Debian, I have specified apt source -
cdrom. But, after I downloaded a deb pack. into the harddisk, I could not
install it by using apt-get install ... 
Can you give example changes in the
/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/source.list file?

Should I configure this file or take another action to achieve installing
a deb package in the harddisk (e.g /dev/hda1).

Sevgi, Saygi, LINUX!!!
(Love, Respect, LINUX!!!)



apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Halil Demirezen


Sevgi, Saygi, LINUX!!!

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Halil Demirezen wrote:

 
 When I first install the Debian, I have specified apt source -
 cdrom. But, after I downloaded a deb pack. into the harddisk, I could not
 install it by using apt-get install ... 
 Can you give example changes in the
 /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/source.list file?
 
 Should I configure this file or take another action to achieve installing
 a deb package in the harddisk (e.g /dev/hda1).
 
 Sevgi, Saygi, LINUX!!!
 (Love, Respect, LINUX!!!)
 
 



Re: apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Sebastiaan
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Halil Demirezen wrote:

 
 When I first install the Debian, I have specified apt source -
 cdrom. But, after I downloaded a deb pack. into the harddisk, I could not
 install it by using apt-get install ... 
 Can you give example changes in the
 /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/source.list file?
 
Hello,

you can install an individual package by:
dpkg --install package.deb

But if you want to download more packages and use apt, add these lines to
/etc/apt/sources.list:
deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib  non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib

deb-src ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free


This will give you access to the stable (potato) and testing (woody)
archive, as well as to non-us, security updates and sources. Change
ftp.nl.uu.net with your favorite (nearby) server.
Then run:
apt-get update


If you install a package now with apt, dependencies are solved.


 Should I configure this file or take another action to achieve installing
 a deb package in the harddisk (e.g /dev/hda1).
 
You could have a local archive for packages, but that is only attractive
if you have losts of non-debian distributed packages.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:29:45PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
 
  nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the
  anchient crappy crypt before.. 
  
  now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... 
 
 htpasswd

doesn't provide proper restrictions and authentication.  (for other
uses then sudo passwords).

whats really needed is a passwd command that behaves exactly the same
as passwd, only with alternate passwd files.

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


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Re: apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Renfro
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 02:04:23PM +0200, Sebastiaan wrote:

 But if you want to download more packages and use apt, add these lines to
 /etc/apt/sources.list:
 deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free

...as his previously all-stable machine turns slowly into a testing
system.

 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib
 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib

And since most packages in testing will have higher version numbers
than those in either stable *or* in security, he won't get too many
security updates, either.

 deb-src ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/debian stable main contrib non-free

And he will only have easy access to stable source code that will
be increasingly irrelevant to his rapidly-approaching-testing system.

Instead, how about:

deb ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
deb ftp://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free

and

deb-src ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian RELEASE main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US RELEASE/non-US main contrib 
non-free

(In the deb-src lines, use either stable, testing, or unstable where
I've indicated RELEASE)

-- 
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931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: apt and other sources.

2001-07-17 Thread Mike Dresser
 Instead, how about:

 deb ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian potato main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free

 and

 deb-src ftp://your.nearby.debian.mirror/debian RELEASE main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US RELEASE/non-US main contrib 
 non-free

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/ stable non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stable/updates main contrib 
non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/

Over the years, this is what I seem to have accumulated.  Any 
comments/suggestions?
The proposed-updates, was because of a package not making it into security.d.o 
due to
whatever reason it was at the time.

Mike Dresser




Re: Debian hosting an open relay?

2001-07-17 Thread Alex Pennace
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 01:54:48PM -0700, Wade Richards wrote:
 All of my mail from the debian-security list is appearing in my spam 
 folder, because it appears that murphy.debian.org is in the ORBS list.
 
 Does anyone know if this is a Debian problem (I find it hard to believe 
 that there really is an open relay), or an ORBS problem?

ORBS has closed down, and one of the orbs.org authoritative nameservers
has configured his nameserver to return positive responses for all
ORBS queries because Alan Brown refuses to remove him from the
nameserver list.



Re: DoS prevention techquies.

2001-07-17 Thread Stefan Srdic
Charl Matthee wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:59:26PM -0600, Stefan Srdic wrote:

  Why can't I change the mc_forwarding parameter?

 Do you have CONFIG_MROUTE compiled into your kernel?

Nope, I excluded the multicast routing option during the kernel configuration.
My Debian system is mainly used for a home desktop and a LAN server. I have no
need for some of the advanced options of the Linux kernel.

 mc_forwarding enables/disables multicast routing [See ip-sysctl.txt in
 your kernel docs]. You decide :)

 Ciao


 Charl

Thanks, I always apreciate the time and effort.

Stef




Re: shared root account

2001-07-17 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:17:23AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:29:45PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:29:32AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
  
   nice to know pam_pwdfile gained md5 support, iirc it only did the
   anchient crappy crypt before.. 
   
   now there just needs to be a passwd command to work with this... 
  
  htpasswd
 
 doesn't provide proper restrictions and authentication.  (for other
 uses then sudo passwords).
 
 whats really needed is a passwd command that behaves exactly the same
 as passwd, only with alternate passwd files.

Hmm, shouldn't some PAM-aware passwd implementation be able to do this?

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