Re: world readable log files and /etc/ files

2002-04-29 Thread Lupe Christoph

On Monday, 2002-04-29 at 02:40:57 +1000, Ian Cumming wrote:

 I was just cleaning up after rebuilding a machine, and I decided to take
 a look at the log file and /etc permissions.

Which release? Woody?

 I was quite alarmed. There seem to be many files with world readable
 permissions, which _shouldnt_.

 ie:
 /var/log/xfer.log

Probably depends on your flavour of ftp daemon. Mine is
-rw-r-1 root adm   335 Apr 24 15:46 /var/log/xferlog

 /var/log/samba/*

Here, /var/log/samba is:
drwxr-x---2 root adm  4096 Apr 28 07:48 /var/log/samba
The files *are*
-rw-r--r--1 root root11144 Apr 28 14:49 log.nmbd
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1314 Apr 29 10:24 log.smbd
but this doesn't matter.

 /var/log/mailman/*

I don't have mailman, so I can't comment.

 and in /etc:
 /etc/proftpd.conf

I don't see anything that needs protection in my (default) proftpd.conf.

 /etc/netatalk/*

Don't have.

 /etc/smb/smb.conf

This one can have user names, so I guess it would be better off with
tighter access modes.

 /etc/apache-perl/cron.conf

I have no idea what this file is.

 What is the policy for log files? I understand that it doesnt do _that_
 much harm allowing others to read, but it does disclose more than I want
 to reveal.

Actually, having tighter access rights on logfiles may lead to the admin
handing out the root password to more people, resulting in lowered
security.

 And now every time I install a package, I'm paranoid about the
 permissions, so I have to go check them.

Be paranoid within reason. If you tighten security so much that you can
only work as root, you're easier to screw by trojans.

Lupe Christoph
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Re: world readable log files and /etc/ files

2002-04-29 Thread Steve Meyer

It is also important to remember not to chown log files.  If you do this you 
could run into problems.  The proccess that writes the file may not be able 
too.


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Previously Ian Cumming wrote:
  I was quite alarmed. There seem to be many files with world readable
  permissions, which _shouldnt_.

If you don't trust your local users on a server you have a different
problem imho.

  What is the policy for log files? I understand that it doesnt do _that_
  much harm allowing others to read, but it does disclose more than I want
  to reveal.

World-readable except for files with sensitive information.

Wichert.

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A Linux version of system and network monitoring?

2002-04-29 Thread Crawford Rainwater

Folks,

Does anyone know of a Linux based system and network
monitoring program out there?  Similar to Tivoli or
HP OpenView, preferably under GPL and free?  If so,
links and such would be great.

This would be used to monitor a remote system being
up or down along with potentially UPS networked
device as well.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: world readable log files and /etc/ files

2002-04-29 Thread Lupe Christoph
On Monday, 2002-04-29 at 02:40:57 +1000, Ian Cumming wrote:

 I was just cleaning up after rebuilding a machine, and I decided to take
 a look at the log file and /etc permissions.

Which release? Woody?

 I was quite alarmed. There seem to be many files with world readable
 permissions, which _shouldnt_.

 ie:
 /var/log/xfer.log

Probably depends on your flavour of ftp daemon. Mine is
-rw-r-1 root adm   335 Apr 24 15:46 /var/log/xferlog

 /var/log/samba/*

Here, /var/log/samba is:
drwxr-x---2 root adm  4096 Apr 28 07:48 /var/log/samba
The files *are*
-rw-r--r--1 root root11144 Apr 28 14:49 log.nmbd
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1314 Apr 29 10:24 log.smbd
but this doesn't matter.

 /var/log/mailman/*

I don't have mailman, so I can't comment.

 and in /etc:
 /etc/proftpd.conf

I don't see anything that needs protection in my (default) proftpd.conf.

 /etc/netatalk/*

Don't have.

 /etc/smb/smb.conf

This one can have user names, so I guess it would be better off with
tighter access modes.

 /etc/apache-perl/cron.conf

I have no idea what this file is.

 What is the policy for log files? I understand that it doesnt do _that_
 much harm allowing others to read, but it does disclose more than I want
 to reveal.

Actually, having tighter access rights on logfiles may lead to the admin
handing out the root password to more people, resulting in lowered
security.

 And now every time I install a package, I'm paranoid about the
 permissions, so I have to go check them.

Be paranoid within reason. If you tighten security so much that you can
only work as root, you're easier to screw by trojans.

Lupe Christoph
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