Re: Intrusion Attempts

2002-12-03 Thread Daniel Rychlik
or use tcpwrappers and block them all together, or better yet,  
use Iptables and write a rule.  

g'times
dan

On Tuesday 03 December 2002 21:05, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 at 09:19:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi. Can you help me. Who do I report the above to. I have 2 firewalls
> > running and tonight I was attacked from the same address 172 times in
> > less than an hour. These people want banning off the net. It is certainly
> > a violation of my privacy. A dozen times is an excuse but 172, I ask you.
> > Please come back.
>
> You can usually find the domain associated with the ip by doing a
> reverse lookup:
>
> dig -x ipaddress
>
> Make sure to take the results from your lookup above and look that up to
> make sure they match.
>
> IE:
>
> I do this first:
> dig -x 127.0.0.1
>
> and get:
> 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. 604800  IN  PTR localhost.
>
> then I:
>
> dig localhost
>
> and I get:
> localhost.  604800  IN  A   127.0.0.1
>
> They match, wonderful.  Now I go to www.localhost and see if they have
> an address to report logs of undesireables to.  If not I'll:
>
> dig localhost SOA
> and get:
>
> localhost.  604800  IN  SOA localhost.
> root.localhost. 1 604800 86400 2419200 604800
>
> hmm...root.localhost, I bet you he can at least forward the email to the
> right person (since they are too lame to list that person on their
> web site).
>
> If all else fails do a whois lookup on the IP
>
> whois ipaddress
>
> and find one of the contacts listed there and bug them :)
>
>
> There is always an iptables blacklist you can set up and block the
> entire 24 (or 16, ouch) bit network if the admins do not take care of
> the undesireables.
>
> Regards,

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Re: Intrusion Attempts

2002-12-03 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 at 09:19:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi. Can you help me. Who do I report the above to. I have 2 firewalls running 
> and tonight I was attacked from the same address 172 times in less than an 
> hour. These people want banning off the net. It is certainly a violation of 
> my privacy. A dozen times is an excuse but 172, I ask you. Please come back.

You can usually find the domain associated with the ip by doing a
reverse lookup:

dig -x ipaddress

Make sure to take the results from your lookup above and look that up to
make sure they match.

IE:

I do this first:
dig -x 127.0.0.1

and get:
1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. 604800  IN  PTR localhost.

then I:

dig localhost

and I get:
localhost.  604800  IN  A   127.0.0.1

They match, wonderful.  Now I go to www.localhost and see if they have
an address to report logs of undesireables to.  If not I'll:

dig localhost SOA
and get:

localhost.  604800  IN  SOA localhost.
root.localhost. 1 604800 86400 2419200 604800

hmm...root.localhost, I bet you he can at least forward the email to the
right person (since they are too lame to list that person on their
web site).

If all else fails do a whois lookup on the IP

whois ipaddress

and find one of the contacts listed there and bug them :)


There is always an iptables blacklist you can set up and block the
entire 24 (or 16, ouch) bit network if the admins do not take care of
the undesireables.

Regards,


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Intrusion Attempts

2002-12-03 Thread Trawets53
Hi. Can you help me. Who do I report the above to. I have 2 firewalls running 
and tonight I was attacked from the same address 172 times in less than an 
hour. These people want banning off the net. It is certainly a violation of 
my privacy. A dozen times is an excuse but 172, I ask you. Please come back.

Kindest Regards Stewart.



Re: Intrusion Attempts

2002-12-03 Thread Daniel Rychlik
or use tcpwrappers and block them all together, or better yet,  
use Iptables and write a rule.  

g'times
dan

On Tuesday 03 December 2002 21:05, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 at 09:19:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi. Can you help me. Who do I report the above to. I have 2 firewalls
> > running and tonight I was attacked from the same address 172 times in
> > less than an hour. These people want banning off the net. It is certainly
> > a violation of my privacy. A dozen times is an excuse but 172, I ask you.
> > Please come back.
>
> You can usually find the domain associated with the ip by doing a
> reverse lookup:
>
> dig -x ipaddress
>
> Make sure to take the results from your lookup above and look that up to
> make sure they match.
>
> IE:
>
> I do this first:
> dig -x 127.0.0.1
>
> and get:
> 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. 604800  IN  PTR localhost.
>
> then I:
>
> dig localhost
>
> and I get:
> localhost.  604800  IN  A   127.0.0.1
>
> They match, wonderful.  Now I go to www.localhost and see if they have
> an address to report logs of undesireables to.  If not I'll:
>
> dig localhost SOA
> and get:
>
> localhost.  604800  IN  SOA localhost.
> root.localhost. 1 604800 86400 2419200 604800
>
> hmm...root.localhost, I bet you he can at least forward the email to the
> right person (since they are too lame to list that person on their
> web site).
>
> If all else fails do a whois lookup on the IP
>
> whois ipaddress
>
> and find one of the contacts listed there and bug them :)
>
>
> There is always an iptables blacklist you can set up and block the
> entire 24 (or 16, ouch) bit network if the admins do not take care of
> the undesireables.
>
> Regards,

-- 
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Java/Perl Developer
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Re: Intrusion Attempts

2002-12-03 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 at 09:19:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi. Can you help me. Who do I report the above to. I have 2 firewalls running 
> and tonight I was attacked from the same address 172 times in less than an 
> hour. These people want banning off the net. It is certainly a violation of 
> my privacy. A dozen times is an excuse but 172, I ask you. Please come back.

You can usually find the domain associated with the ip by doing a
reverse lookup:

dig -x ipaddress

Make sure to take the results from your lookup above and look that up to
make sure they match.

IE:

I do this first:
dig -x 127.0.0.1

and get:
1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. 604800  IN  PTR localhost.

then I:

dig localhost

and I get:
localhost.  604800  IN  A   127.0.0.1

They match, wonderful.  Now I go to www.localhost and see if they have
an address to report logs of undesireables to.  If not I'll:

dig localhost SOA
and get:

localhost.  604800  IN  SOA localhost.
root.localhost. 1 604800 86400 2419200 604800

hmm...root.localhost, I bet you he can at least forward the email to the
right person (since they are too lame to list that person on their
web site).

If all else fails do a whois lookup on the IP

whois ipaddress

and find one of the contacts listed there and bug them :)


There is always an iptables blacklist you can set up and block the
entire 24 (or 16, ouch) bit network if the admins do not take care of
the undesireables.

Regards,


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Intrusion Attempts

2002-12-03 Thread Trawets53
Hi. Can you help me. Who do I report the above to. I have 2 firewalls running 
and tonight I was attacked from the same address 172 times in less than an 
hour. These people want banning off the net. It is certainly a violation of 
my privacy. A dozen times is an excuse but 172, I ask you. Please come back.

Kindest Regards Stewart.


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Re: Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread Maarten Van Horenbeeck
Hi Anne,

> I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
> out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
> methods like PROPFIND and PUT.

I hope this helps:

http://www.daemon.be/~maarten/apache-1.3.27-stripping.patch

Limit and LimitExcept are also possible solutions, but you can't use
them to disable all methods.  Some are immune to this :-)

Cheers,
Maarten

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Re: Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread Jamie Heilman
Anne Carasik wrote:
> I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
> out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
> methods like PROPFIND and PUT.

Don't run software that answers requests with these methods if you
don't want them enabled, nothing in apache (1.3 anyway) will service
those by default.  Otherwise, yeah, Limit and LimitExcept are the
directives you're interested in.

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Re: Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread John Goerzen
This is what people suggest for Subversion:


  AuthType Basic
  AuthName "Subversion repository"
  AuthUserFile /usr/local/etc/apache2/svn-pass
 
 Require valid-user
 

DAV svn
SVNPath /var/svn/test



On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:27:36PM -0800, Anne Carasik wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
> out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
> methods like PROPFIND and PUT.
> 
> Can someone please help me out? I've been searching through
> the docs and google, and I'm hoping I just overlooked something
> obvious.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Anne
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Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread Anne Carasik
Hi all,

I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
methods like PROPFIND and PUT.

Can someone please help me out? I've been searching through
the docs and google, and I'm hoping I just overlooked something
obvious.

TIA,

-Anne
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Re: port 113

2002-12-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anne Carasik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.12.02.1703 +0100]:
> Port 113 is auth/identd.
> 
> IMHO, it makes sense to not let these in through your
> firewall.

Yes. You should DROP the Windoze crap (135-139, 445) and REJECT the
ident requests. or else you might have to wait ages to connect to
certain FTP or IRC servers.

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Re: Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread Maarten Van Horenbeeck
Hi Anne,

> I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
> out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
> methods like PROPFIND and PUT.

I hope this helps:

http://www.daemon.be/~maarten/apache-1.3.27-stripping.patch

Limit and LimitExcept are also possible solutions, but you can't use
them to disable all methods.  Some are immune to this :-)

Cheers,
Maarten

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Re: Using Razor and Debian Mailing lists

2002-12-03 Thread Simon Huggins
Hiya Debian,

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:23:11PM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> Please do not have your procmail or anything else automatically mark
> mail sent from debian's list as spam.  Several valid emails have ended
> up in my "Junk" folder because someone is reporting them to razor.

I noticed this with bugtraq mails (yes, ok I know bugtraq is moderated
but it was easier to filter all my mail than select stuff).

This is the reason I stopped using razor.  Surely if people can do this,
razor is worthless?

SpamAssassin's Bayes modules look interesting - should be in 1.50 when
that's released as stable.  Hopefully they will catch the spam that
spamassassin doesn't quite catch for me.

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Re: Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread Jamie Heilman
Anne Carasik wrote:
> I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
> out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
> methods like PROPFIND and PUT.

Don't run software that answers requests with these methods if you
don't want them enabled, nothing in apache (1.3 anyway) will service
those by default.  Otherwise, yeah, Limit and LimitExcept are the
directives you're interested in.

-- 
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 not for you." She was cheap, she was stupid and she wouldn't load 
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Re: Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread John Goerzen
This is what people suggest for Subversion:


  AuthType Basic
  AuthName "Subversion repository"
  AuthUserFile /usr/local/etc/apache2/svn-pass
 
 Require valid-user
 

DAV svn
SVNPath /var/svn/test



On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:27:36PM -0800, Anne Carasik wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
> out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
> methods like PROPFIND and PUT.
> 
> Can someone please help me out? I've been searching through
> the docs and google, and I'm hoping I just overlooked something
> obvious.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Anne
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Removing stupid HTTP methods from Apache

2002-12-03 Thread Anne Carasik
Hi all,

I'm running Apache on a Woody machine, and I can't figure
out for the life of me how to disable certain insecure HTTP
methods like PROPFIND and PUT.

Can someone please help me out? I've been searching through
the docs and google, and I'm hoping I just overlooked something
obvious.

TIA,

-Anne
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Re: port 113

2002-12-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anne Carasik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.12.02.1703 +0100]:
> Port 113 is auth/identd.
> 
> IMHO, it makes sense to not let these in through your
> firewall.

Yes. You should DROP the Windoze crap (135-139, 445) and REJECT the
ident requests. or else you might have to wait ages to connect to
certain FTP or IRC servers.

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Re: Using Razor and Debian Mailing lists

2002-12-03 Thread Simon Huggins
Hiya Debian,

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:23:11PM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> Please do not have your procmail or anything else automatically mark
> mail sent from debian's list as spam.  Several valid emails have ended
> up in my "Junk" folder because someone is reporting them to razor.

I noticed this with bugtraq mails (yes, ok I know bugtraq is moderated
but it was easier to filter all my mail than select stuff).

This is the reason I stopped using razor.  Surely if people can do this,
razor is worthless?

SpamAssassin's Bayes modules look interesting - should be in 1.50 when
that's released as stable.  Hopefully they will catch the spam that
spamassassin doesn't quite catch for me.

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Re: Using Razor and Debian Mailing lists

2002-12-03 Thread Santiago Vila
Raymond Wood:
> Someone else mentioned that one should also remove the Debian
> 'unsubscribe' line at the end of the offending email.  Since
> this is more work than simply forwarding the email unchanged to
> Razor, can you or someone else confirm whether this additional
> step is really necessary?

A munged message would "contaminate" razor database with extra things
which do not really belong to the original spam message. I don't think
this is good. Many more people will benefit if nobody submit munged messages.

If you want a quick method to remove the footer, this is what I use:

#!/bin/sed -f
: mas
$!N
s/\n/&/2;
t vale
$!b mas
: vale
/^-- \nTo UNSUBSCRIBE, email to .*\nwith a subject of .*/d
P;D



Re: Using Razor and Debian Mailing lists

2002-12-03 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 at 12:00:44AM -0500, andrew lattis wrote:
> --
> :0fw
> | /usr/bin/spamassassin
> 
> :0:
> * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
> spam
> --
> 
> or you could put a 
> 
> --
> :0
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> $DEFAULT
> --
> 
> before that to have most debian emails avoid the check.


The source of most of my Spam is debian-related mail...:(


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Re: Using Razor and Debian Mailing lists

2002-12-03 Thread Santiago Vila
Raymond Wood:
> Someone else mentioned that one should also remove the Debian
> 'unsubscribe' line at the end of the offending email.  Since
> this is more work than simply forwarding the email unchanged to
> Razor, can you or someone else confirm whether this additional
> step is really necessary?

A munged message would "contaminate" razor database with extra things
which do not really belong to the original spam message. I don't think
this is good. Many more people will benefit if nobody submit munged messages.

If you want a quick method to remove the footer, this is what I use:

#!/bin/sed -f
: mas
$!N
s/\n/&/2;
t vale
$!b mas
: vale
/^-- \nTo UNSUBSCRIBE, email to .*\nwith a subject of .*/d
P;D


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Re: test of non-subscribed user

2002-12-03 Thread IT - Sven Mueller
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On Monday 02 December 2002 18:25, Raymond Wood wrote:
> OK, so the problem is not with reporting genuine Spam to Razor;
> rather the problem is with incorrectly reporting legitimate
> email as Spam to Razor?

Well, AFAICT razor seems to derive keyword lists from the reported spam 
messages, so it would be possible for it to see "@lists.debian.org" is a 
known spam source or spam keyword.

Regards,

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Re: Using Razor and Debian Mailing lists

2002-12-03 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 at 12:00:44AM -0500, andrew lattis wrote:
> --
> :0fw
> | /usr/bin/spamassassin
> 
> :0:
> * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
> spam
> --
> 
> or you could put a 
> 
> --
> :0
> * ^TO.*@lists.debian.org
> $DEFAULT
> --
> 
> before that to have most debian emails avoid the check.


The source of most of my Spam is debian-related mail...:(


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Re: test of non-subscribed user

2002-12-03 Thread IT - Sven Mueller
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On Monday 02 December 2002 18:25, Raymond Wood wrote:
> OK, so the problem is not with reporting genuine Spam to Razor;
> rather the problem is with incorrectly reporting legitimate
> email as Spam to Razor?

Well, AFAICT razor seems to derive keyword lists from the reported spam 
messages, so it would be possible for it to see "@lists.debian.org" is a 
known spam source or spam keyword.

Regards,

Sven Müller
- - IT - Network&Infrastructure -

- -- 
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* Phone: +49 2932 475-282 / FAX: -325
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