Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Bill
On February 11, 2003 02:01 pm, Beach, Ken wrote:
> From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > I just want to add lpd is not listening on any port according to
> > lsof or netstat
> >
> > On February 11, 2003 11:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> > > system started Feb 6
> > > ps output:
> > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> > > root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00
> > > /usr/sbin/lpd root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09  
> > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd or
> > > root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > > root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_
> > > /usr/sbin/lpd
> > >
> > >
> > > lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean
> > > with no evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits,
> > > connections, and last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen?
> > > Any ideas? I have bind running on port 53 (everything else is
> > > filtered)
> > >
> > > thanks
>
> I'm sure you've already checked it, because you said it's not any
> cron job, but by default lpr is stopped and restarted during log
> rotation. The default debian install puts an ldr in cron.weekly.
>
> Worth a thought anyway...
>
> Cheers,
> Ken

Thank you Ken,
You were right! I overlooked that lpr file.  Sorry for the paranoia.



Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
What is listening on port 514 (netstat -ant)?

Jeffrey

Quoting Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just want to add lpd is not listening on any port according to lsof 
> or netstat
> 
> On February 11, 2003 11:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> > system started Feb 6
> > ps output:
> > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> > root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > or
> > root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd
> >
> >
> > lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean with no
> > evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits, connections, and
> > last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen? Any ideas? I have bind
> > running on port 53 (everything else is filtered)
> >
> > thanks
> 
> 



Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> 
> 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> system started Feb 6
> ps output:
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> or 
> root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd

Notice the little slash widget here   ^

This indicates that the second instance was forked by the first (i.e.,
it is a child of the first).  Also the PIDs are very close, indicating
that they probably were started at about the same time.  A number of
daemons will fork, persisently fork, or pre-fork to allow multiple
simultaneous connections.  This is generally more robust (read easier
to get right) than handling multiple connections in one process.

The PID is not particularly low (less than 1-2 thousand).  This fits
in with your statement that lpd was not started at boot.

This all looks very normal.  Not to guarantee that your box has not
been cracked, but this isn't evidence of it.

Jeffrey



Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Bill
I just want to add lpd is not listening on any port according to lsof 
or netstat

On February 11, 2003 11:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> system started Feb 6
> ps output:
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> or
> root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd
>
>
> lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean with no
> evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits, connections, and
> last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen? Any ideas? I have bind
> running on port 53 (everything else is filtered)
>
> thanks



Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Bill
On February 11, 2003 02:01 pm, Beach, Ken wrote:
> From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> > I just want to add lpd is not listening on any port according to
> > lsof or netstat
> >
> > On February 11, 2003 11:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> > > system started Feb 6
> > > ps output:
> > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> > > root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00
> > > /usr/sbin/lpd root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09  
> > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd or
> > > root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > > root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_
> > > /usr/sbin/lpd
> > >
> > >
> > > lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean
> > > with no evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits,
> > > connections, and last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen?
> > > Any ideas? I have bind running on port 53 (everything else is
> > > filtered)
> > >
> > > thanks
>
> I'm sure you've already checked it, because you said it's not any
> cron job, but by default lpr is stopped and restarted during log
> rotation. The default debian install puts an ldr in cron.weekly.
>
> Worth a thought anyway...
>
> Cheers,
> Ken

Thank you Ken,
You were right! I overlooked that lpr file.  Sorry for the paranoia.


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suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread bill07
Hi,

3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
system started Feb 6
ps output:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
or 
root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd


lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean with no 
evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits, connections, and 
last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen? Any ideas? I have bind 
running on port 53 (everything else is filtered)

thanks



Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
What is listening on port 514 (netstat -ant)?

Jeffrey

Quoting Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just want to add lpd is not listening on any port according to lsof 
> or netstat
> 
> On February 11, 2003 11:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> > system started Feb 6
> > ps output:
> > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> > root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > or
> > root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> > root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd
> >
> >
> > lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean with no
> > evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits, connections, and
> > last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen? Any ideas? I have bind
> > running on port 53 (everything else is filtered)
> >
> > thanks
> 
> 


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Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> 
> 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> system started Feb 6
> ps output:
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> or 
> root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd

Notice the little slash widget here   ^

This indicates that the second instance was forked by the first (i.e.,
it is a child of the first).  Also the PIDs are very close, indicating
that they probably were started at about the same time.  A number of
daemons will fork, persisently fork, or pre-fork to allow multiple
simultaneous connections.  This is generally more robust (read easier
to get right) than handling multiple connections in one process.

The PID is not particularly low (less than 1-2 thousand).  This fits
in with your statement that lpd was not started at boot.

This all looks very normal.  Not to guarantee that your box has not
been cracked, but this isn't evidence of it.

Jeffrey


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Re: suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread Bill
I just want to add lpd is not listening on any port according to lsof 
or netstat

On February 11, 2003 11:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
> system started Feb 6
> ps output:
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> or
> root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd
>
>
> lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean with no
> evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits, connections, and
> last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen? Any ideas? I have bind
> running on port 53 (everything else is filtered)
>
> thanks


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suspicious lpd started

2003-02-11 Thread bill07
Hi,

3 days after starting my potato system lpd started to run.
system started Feb 6
ps output:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 6833  0.0  1.3  1052  412 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
root 6836  0.0  1.5  1076  468 ? SFeb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
or 
root 6833  0.0 1.3 1052  412 ?  S Feb09   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
root 6836  0.0  1.5 1076 468 ?  S Feb09   0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/lpd


lpd is not in startup or any cron job.  daemon.log is clean with no 
evidence of it starting.  no apparent rootkits, connections, and 
last/lastlog is clean.  How can this happen? Any ideas? I have bind 
running on port 53 (everything else is filtered)

thanks


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[francois@tourde.org (François TOURDE)] Re: securing pop3

2003-02-11 Thread François TOURDE
Oops, sorry, first post in a bad list. Here's the correct one...

--- Begin Message ---
"Janus N." Tøndering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Both /bin/false and /bin/true has been suggested. Any difference in
> using the two?

Yes. /bin/true allow a ftp account, /bin/false no.

It's an old style ftpaccess technique, but still running.

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[francois@tourde.org (François TOURDE)] Re: securing pop3

2003-02-11 Thread François TOURDE
Oops, sorry, first post in a bad list. Here's the correct one...


--- Begin Message ---
"Janus N." Tøndering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Both /bin/false and /bin/true has been suggested. Any difference in
> using the two?

Yes. /bin/true allow a ftp account, /bin/false no.

It's an old style ftpaccess technique, but still running.

-- 
Graduate students and most professors are no smarter than undergrads.
They're just older.
-- 
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Tél: 01 49 35 96 69 - Mob: 06 81 01 81 80
eMail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL: http://francois.tourde.org/

--- End Message ---


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had to seek professional help."
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