Re: On Mozilla-* updates

2005-07-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 09:51:28AM +1000, Geoff Crompton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > 
> > For these packages, help and/or advice is appreciated.
> > 
> 
> Can we try to get a DD involved in the mozilla security team? Presumably
> when they become aware of a security issue, there is some discussion
> about the problem and how to fix it. Access at this level may make it
> possible to identify in the code where the problems are.
> Then that person could release more detailed information about the fix
> after the embargo ends, which would benefit all other distributions in a
> similar position.

Only problem beeing that mozilla team access is a meritocracy...

Mike


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Re: On Mozilla-* updates

2005-07-29 Thread Geoff Crompton
> 
> For these packages, help and/or advice is appreciated.
> 

Can we try to get a DD involved in the mozilla security team? Presumably
when they become aware of a security issue, there is some discussion
about the problem and how to fix it. Access at this level may make it
possible to identify in the code where the problems are.
Then that person could release more detailed information about the fix
after the embargo ends, which would benefit all other distributions in a
similar position.

Geoff Crompton


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On Mozilla-* updates

2005-07-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Moin,

it seems that less than two months after the release of sarge it is
not possible to support Mozilla, Thunderbird, Firefox (and probably
Galeon) packages anymore.  (in terms of fixing security related
problems)

Unfortunately the Mozilla Foundation does not provide dedicated and
clean patches for security updates but only releases new versions that
fix tons of security related problems and other stuff that is or may
be irrelevant for security updates.  As a result, it is extremely
difficult to get security patches extracted and backported.  This is
an utter disaster for security teams and distributions that try to
support their releases.

We have tried to prepare updated packages, but they may cause problems
as has been the case for a Debian fork.  Eventually they've given up
and released the new upstream version as security update.  *sigh*

Using new upstream versions are bound to cause new problems.  Maybe
not at the moment with only going from 1.0.4 to 1.0.6 but more
probably they will do later.

Sooner or later they will change the behaviour of the program (so uses
will be confused), change the API (so plugins, language files etc
won't work anymore), alter the dependencies (so the packages will be
slurp in new packages or cannot be built on stable at all).

I guess in the long term we're on a lost track and it seems this
situation has already started.

For these packages, help and/or advice is appreciated.

Regards,

Joey

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2005-07-29 Thread Robert Pohjanen

I will be out of the office starting 2005-07-29 and will not return until
2005-08-22.

Jag har semester från och med 2005-07-29 till och med 2002-08-22



Re: New gaim packages fix denial of service

2005-07-29 Thread rafael . calzada
Estoy de vacaciones hasta el 1 de Septiembre. Leeré tu correo cuando vuelva. Si 
deseas algo urgente, contacta con:
Cuestiones relacionadas con Seguridad:
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Saludos. Rafa.

I will be on holiday until September 1st. I will read your message as soon as I 
come back. If you have an urgent question, please, contact with:
Security related questions:
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Educational questions:
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Thanks in advance. Rafa.



Re: mozilla-firefox 1.0.4-2 security holes (was Re: Security fixes for mozilla and firefox in Sarge?)

2005-07-29 Thread Willi Mann


Debian bug #318061 sort-of covers some of the above issues, but the bts 
says it will be archived in 19 days, even though the bug is still open 
for the version in Stable. Is this normal?


See [1]: Bug archival currently disabled, until distribution tags are 
supported as bug archival blockers. Bug #318061 is tagged etch and sarge, so 
it won't be archived until it's fixed in etch and sarge.


[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg00010.html

Willi


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