Security status of orphaned woody packages when upgraded to sarge?

2005-05-10 Thread David Stanaway
What happens with people that upgrade from woody to sarge that have
packages in woody that are no longer in the archive wrt security?

EG: libnss-pgsql 

The problem I see is that there is no warning that the package no longer
exists, and could potentially have security problems that go unnoticed
even if you check debian security advisories diligently.


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Re: Providing secure file access on a colo-server

2004-10-08 Thread David Stanaway
On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 07:54 +0200, Sels, Roger wrote:
 Hello Marcus,
 
 I'd recommend sticking to scp, as you can give your users winscp.
 Its interface resembles major ftp clients out there and is very intuitive,
 so they should not have any issues using it.


On windows, there is a semi decent free *ftp client called FileZilla
which supports sftp. It shouldn't take much to offer that for download
with some screen shots etc..

DAV access on the other hand, I am not sure about.

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Re: telnetd vulnerability from BUGTRAQ

2004-09-28 Thread David Stanaway
On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 18:58 -0600, s. keeling wrote:
 No-one should have to apologise for warning against bad security
 practices.  $DEITY knows the Windows crowd doesn't care about it, but
 we're better than that, right?  One unpatched Microsh*t box in your
 LAN, and one nitwit using IE, and your whole network is owned.  It
 would be irresponsible not to warn others about it.
 
 If/when they get in, they can also get a sniffer in.  If you're
 running telnet, you're fooling yourself.  If you're using ssh
 ubiquitously, that's yet another vector closed to them.
 
 I don't have a lot of patience for those who think, Yes, we know the
 risks, but we'd rather not change.  Evolution in action, indeed.

This kind of attitude is not very productive. Some people still need
telnet. So it should be patched, otherwise it should be removed from the
archive. End of discussion.

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CERT advisory on various mozilla components. Is debian effected?

2004-09-17 Thread David Stanaway
Hi,
I just got a CERT alert [1] about a number of issues with mozilla,
firefox, and thunderbird.

[1] http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/alerts/SA04-261A.html

Are we effected?


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Re: Patches that break stuff

2004-07-09 Thread David Stanaway
On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 10:55 -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 10:53:01AM -0400, Robert Brockway wrote:
  Are any hard stats available on how many Debian package upgrades have had
  to be replaced because they broke something?  I'm thinking the total number of
  broken updates in 2.2 and 3.0 is 0 plus or minus 1 :)
 
 It's definitely greater than 0.  In recent memory (earlier this year),
 we released a kernel image package that didn't contain any modules.
 Naturally it was fixed quickly, but I'm sure it lead to at least a
 couple of unbootable systems.

Check through the DSA advisories for revisions like -2/-3 etc. Some of
the updates did not fix the bug in the initial release, eg: DSA 460-2.

I have never had a problem with a broken DSA update though. The problem
with 479-1 would have been a problem for some people however.

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Unusual spam recently

2004-06-03 Thread David Stanaway
Hi,

Has anyone else been receiving unusual spam recently which contains no
content?

Is this some spam engine checking MTAs to see if the addresses are
accepted?

Here is an example:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from host-69-145-228-124.client.bresnan.net (unknown
[69.145.228.124]) by david.dialmex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id
CF733146132E
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu,  3 Jun 2004 09:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Info: 8+ggs369/bIdvoHulUPnaKEY41Q[1
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu,  3 Jun 2004 09:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on 
dmxnocws13.dialmex.net
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.8 required=5.0
tests=BAYES_80,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no
version=2.63
X-Evolution-Source: imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Subject: No Subject
Mime-Version: 1.0


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Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm - postprocess

2004-06-03 Thread David Stanaway
On Jun 3, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Alvin Oga wrote:
post processing is for the birds in my limited world of 10,000+
mails per day ... most of which are spam
- the original posts spam assassin didnt reject
the incoming spam to undisclosed recepient
- once they validate the email addy is good, you're
  promptly added to a new more expensive spam list
- receiving spam is a bad thing
My mail system has a number of users, and I prefer to let the recipient 
decide what is spam.

The question was really about the empty spams that are showing up in 
the last month or so, and what they are intended for. Weather it was a 
prelude to an MTA exploiting worm strike, or just spammers assessing 
the value of their spam lists before using them to deliver their 
spamloads.

My content filtering mostly works. It catches over 99% of spam and I 
have only had 1 false positive, and I think I will stick with it.

Some list servers such as yahoogroups (May it rot in pieces) have the 
annoying behavior of deactivating your subscription on hard bounces 
from MTAs so whenever a list I am subscribed to with lax attachment 
policies gets a worm, and I hard bounce it with mime-header-checks, I 
get deactivated. So this is just one example of hard bouncing spam not 
being a great system wide policy right now (Unless you don't like your 
users :P).


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Unusual spam recently

2004-06-03 Thread David Stanaway
Hi,

Has anyone else been receiving unusual spam recently which contains no
content?

Is this some spam engine checking MTAs to see if the addresses are
accepted?

Here is an example:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from host-69-145-228-124.client.bresnan.net (unknown
[69.145.228.124]) by david.dialmex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id
CF733146132E
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu,  3 Jun 2004 09:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Info: 8+ggs369/bIdvoHulUPnaKEY41Q[1
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu,  3 Jun 2004 09:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on 
dmxnocws13.dialmex.net
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.8 required=5.0
tests=BAYES_80,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no
version=2.63
X-Evolution-Source: imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Subject: No Subject
Mime-Version: 1.0


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Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm - postprocess

2004-06-03 Thread David Stanaway


On Jun 3, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Alvin Oga wrote:


post processing is for the birds in my limited world of 10,000+
mails per day ... most of which are spam

- the original posts spam assassin didnt reject
the incoming spam to undisclosed recepient

- once they validate the email addy is good, you're
  promptly added to a new more expensive spam list

- receiving spam is a bad thing


My mail system has a number of users, and I prefer to let the recipient 
decide what is spam.


The question was really about the empty spams that are showing up in 
the last month or so, and what they are intended for. Weather it was a 
prelude to an MTA exploiting worm strike, or just spammers assessing 
the value of their spam lists before using them to deliver their 
spamloads.


My content filtering mostly works. It catches over 99% of spam and I 
have only had 1 false positive, and I think I will stick with it.


Some list servers such as yahoogroups (May it rot in pieces) have the 
annoying behavior of deactivating your subscription on hard bounces 
from MTAs so whenever a list I am subscribed to with lax attachment 
policies gets a worm, and I hard bounce it with mime-header-checks, I 
get deactivated. So this is just one example of hard bouncing spam not 
being a great system wide policy right now (Unless you don't like your 
users :P).





Re: XFree86 4.2 bug in Debian Testing

2002-11-08 Thread David Stanaway
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 11:42, Joseph Pingenot wrote:

 xhost is for working with connections coming over tcp.  :0.0 uses
   a named socket (/tmp/Xsomething), and Debian's X servers don't listen
   in on a tcp socket by default (security.  No chance of someone sniffing
   your password if nobody can connect remotely!).  Thus, xhost won't work.
 

Try..  
xhost + 'local:*'

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Re: XFree86 4.2 bug in Debian Testing

2002-11-08 Thread David Stanaway
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 11:42, Joseph Pingenot wrote:

 xhost is for working with connections coming over tcp.  :0.0 uses
   a named socket (/tmp/Xsomething), and Debian's X servers don't listen
   in on a tcp socket by default (security.  No chance of someone sniffing
   your password if nobody can connect remotely!).  Thus, xhost won't work.
 

Try..  
xhost + 'local:*'

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Re: Permissions Required On hosts.allow ?

2002-09-02 Thread David Stanaway
On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 21:57, Nick Boyce wrote:
 I'm constantly looking for ways of
 achieving the same discretionary access control stance in my personal
 Unix box.  Humour me ?

You may like to have a look at the xfs filesystem (And I think ext3 may
support it as well, you will need to check) and the extentions that it
supports for ACLs (Access Control Lists) to enhance the very simplistic
unix {owner,group,everyone,special}+{r,w,x} permissions.

Be carefull though, as use of this will require you to change your
backup/recovery plan if you are using tar/cpio etc..

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Re: Are current Apache debs affected by new bug?

2002-06-18 Thread David Stanaway
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 04:07, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 Previously Timm Gleason wrote:
  I looked through the changelogs and the changelog.Debian files, but
  couldn't conclusively decide if the current vulnerability in Apache has
  been taken care of or not. Anyone else know?
 
 Yes, it's not fixed yet.
 

according to Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] on bugtraq,
 3) Casting to unsigned int does not help that much if the variable in
 question is a long.
 
 The Apache CVS repository now seems contain a correct patch.


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Re: Fixing file system privileges

2002-05-11 Thread David Stanaway

On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 01:16, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.05.11.0155 +0200]:
  nope, purge is a possible status too.
 
 since when?

Since the last time you hit _ in dselect maybe.

dstanawa@ciderbox:~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep purge
aptitudepurge
dstanawa@ciderbox:~$ sudo dpkg --purge aptitude
(Reading database ... 98668 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing aptitude ...
Purging configuration files for aptitude ...
dstanawa@ciderbox:~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep purge
dstanawa@ciderbox:~$ 

So it is purges that are pending (Hence: dpkg --pending --purge which is
run by dselect).

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Re: Fixing file system privileges

2002-05-11 Thread David Stanaway
On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 01:16, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Peter Cordes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.05.11.0155 +0200]:
  nope, purge is a possible status too.
 
 since when?

Since the last time you hit _ in dselect maybe.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep purge
aptitudepurge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg --purge aptitude
(Reading database ... 98668 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing aptitude ...
Purging configuration files for aptitude ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep purge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

So it is purges that are pending (Hence: dpkg --pending --purge which is
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Re: how to use -j DROPLOG in iptables?

2002-05-09 Thread David Stanaway
On Wed, 2002-05-08 at 22:25, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
 Hello,
 
 When I use -j DROPLOG in iptables, my woody complains:
 iptables v1.2.6a: Couldn't load target 
 `DROPLOG':/lib/iptables/libipt_DROPLOG.so: cannot open shared object file: No 
 such file or directory
 
 Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.

The Quick'n Dirty way.

iptables -N DROPLOG
iptables -A DROPLOG -j LOG
iptables -A DROPLOG -j DROP


You may want to consider:
iptables -N DROPLOG
iptables -A DROPLOG -j LOG
iptables -A DROPLOG -p tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
iptables -A DROPLOG -p udp -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
iptables -A DROPLOG -p udp -j DROP

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Re: possible hole in mozilla et al

2002-05-09 Thread David Stanaway
On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 01:22, Tim Uckun wrote:
 I am not arguing for any change in the policies for determining what is 
 stable and what is not. My feeling is (and I admit I haven't done any 
 studies) that stable gets delayed sometimes due to obscure packages having 
 bugs or obscure platform specific bugs. It seems to me that most commonly 
 used packages like apache, php, postgres etc have a pretty good track 
 record and could be considered stable a few months after they are released.
 
 Using the same criterea used the debian folks now you could have more 
 frequent updates if you simply selected a small set of carefully chosen 
 packages. Kind of a debian sub distro.


For those that need some of the new versions of packages (EG: Being
stuck with the `stable' version of postgresql would be silly if you used
it heavily) it is not that difficult to get around it by having a
deb-src line that points at testing.

apt-get build-depends apache
apt-get -b source apache

It is not going to work all the time. Sometimes the build depends have
to be built from testing as well... 

Having lots of different stable branches as suggested by someone else
would make the security team pretty difficult, and it is already hard
enough from what I gather.

On another note... I imagine that some of the security updates for
stable have caused some frustration to the security team, as the flaw is
sometimes something that has been fixed in a later version, and applying
that fix to the older (Read: Old version not maintained any more
upstream) version could be non-trivial and seem a little futile when
upgrading to a new version fixes the problem.

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Windows ftp clients for ftpd-ssl (OpenBSD)

2002-04-18 Thread David Stanaway

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could recommend freeish windows clients that
support ssl ( in.ftpd -z secure ).

I have tried FileZilla (Which is GPL'ed but a little flakey, at least on
Win98) but it seems to have problems establishing the data socket in
either normal, or passive mode.

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Windows ftp clients for ftpd-ssl (OpenBSD)

2002-04-18 Thread David Stanaway
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could recommend freeish windows clients that
support ssl ( in.ftpd -z secure ).

I have tried FileZilla (Which is GPL'ed but a little flakey, at least on
Win98) but it seems to have problems establishing the data socket in
either normal, or passive mode.

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