Re: BAHAHA was (telnetd vulnerability from BUGTRAQ)

2004-09-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 12:23 +0200, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
 I would suggest updating one's knowledge at least every ~5 years or so...
 (it's easy for me to say, because i'm still learning, maybe people with
 decades of IT experience find it more difficult to follow development of
 standards)

Wow, the next thing you are going to say, is that Microsoft isn't
standards friendly. Or that SCO doesn't own UNIX. Or that (the) SUN is
setting.

Every 5 years... I doubt *I* could keep up with that pace.

BTW, I won't get into any further arguments about ftp, mainly I am
convinced its usefulness is past. Remember *I* *AM* *CONVINCED*, which
means *OPINION*. Sure other options exist, but FTP in the  5 years ago
old school sense isn't even optimal anymore except for
anonymous/chroot'd (or non-chroot'd for significantly larger values of
sane FTPDs) UL/DL. I won't use it and haven't for 5+ years (/me grins).
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Re: BAHAHA was (telnetd vulnerability from BUGTRAQ)

2004-09-28 Thread Alfie
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 09:35:50AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
 BTW, I won't get into any further arguments about ftp, mainly I am
 convinced its usefulness is past. Remember *I* *AM* *CONVINCED*, which
 means *OPINION*. Sure other options exist, but FTP in the  5 years ago
 old school sense isn't even optimal anymore except for
 anonymous/chroot'd (or non-chroot'd for significantly larger values of
 sane FTPDs) UL/DL. I won't use it and haven't for 5+ years (/me grins).

Assuming the U.S. government doesn't freak out and stop it, IPSEC
encryption will soon(?) be used for all internet communication, which
should greatly increase the security of every application. Hopefully
this encryption will be done in hardware which will take the burden
of heavy calculation off of the CPU. In this case, programs like
telnet and ftp will once again be desirable as they lack the
computational overhead of scp et al.

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Re: BAHAHA was (telnetd vulnerability from BUGTRAQ)

2004-09-28 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Alfie wrote:
 Assuming the U.S. government doesn't freak out and stop it, IPSEC
 encryption will soon(?) be used for all internet communication

That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time.  Unless you mean
soon on an astronomical time scale, and even then I think you're being
optimistic.

noah



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Re: BAHAHA was (telnetd vulnerability from BUGTRAQ)

2004-09-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Alfie wrote:
Assuming the U.S. government doesn't freak out and stop it, IPSEC
encryption will soon(?) be used for all internet communication, which
hahahahahahahahahaha
Mike Stone
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Re: BAHAHA was (telnetd vulnerability from BUGTRAQ)

2004-09-28 Thread elijah wright

Assuming the U.S. government doesn't freak out and stop it, IPSEC 
encryption will soon(?) be used for all internet communication, which
hahahahahahahahahaha
agreed - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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