Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-31 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 01:24, Thomas Ritter wrote:
> Am Montag, 31. März 2003 00:27 schrieb Jan-Hendrik Palic:
> > I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
> > because, there are no debian-packages .. :(
> 
> I don't know about sarge and woody, but logcheck in sid, roughly 
> preconfigured 
> for debian systems.

It's there, also in stable.

And, more important, more and more packages bring their own
/etc/logcheck/ignore.d* files, so the logcheck maintainer doesn't have
to jump after every log-producing daemon.

Works fine here.

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Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-31 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 01:24, Thomas Ritter wrote:
> Am Montag, 31. März 2003 00:27 schrieb Jan-Hendrik Palic:
> > I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
> > because, there are no debian-packages .. :(
> 
> I don't know about sarge and woody, but logcheck in sid, roughly preconfigured 
> for debian systems.

It's there, also in stable.

And, more important, more and more packages bring their own
/etc/logcheck/ignore.d* files, so the logcheck maintainer doesn't have
to jump after every log-producing daemon.

Works fine here.

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Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Montag, 31. März 2003 00:27 schrieb Jan-Hendrik Palic:
> I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
> because, there are no debian-packages .. :(

I don't know about sarge and woody, but logcheck in sid, roughly preconfigured 
for debian systems.

> But the big issue with logcheck is, that you can get mails with
> log-entries, but logcheck cannot provide the time to each log-message.
> So .. it is quite unusable for a professional use...

How should a logfile mailer do so? The timestamp must be inside the log file 
being parsed, where else should that info come from? Any "professionally 
usable" program should be able to time-stamp each of it's log message. Then 
logcheck sends things like 

Mar 30 23:34:58 hammer portsentry[1165]: attackalert: TCP SYN/Normal scan from 
host: 210.73.84.27/210.73.84.27 to TCP port: 21
Mar 30 23:34:58 hammer portsentry[1165]: attackalert: Host 210.73.84.27 has 
been blocked via wrappers with string: "ALL: 210.73.84.27 : DENY"

The only thing is, it's a bit of work to configure it, like any log mailer. 
You get spammed by reports and disable uninteresting stuff until you only get 
the interesting stuff. It's one or two weeks long 2-3 minutes of adding 
ignore entries and one minute from time to time to cope with what updated 
programs write into the log ;)

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Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread nicole


At 00:27 on Mar 31, Jan-Hendrik Palic shook the earth with:

> I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
> because, there are no debian-packages .. :(
> But the big issue with logcheck is, that you can get mails with
> log-entries, but logcheck cannot provide the time to each log-message.
> :(
> So .. it is quite unusable for a professional use...

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages2.pl?keywords=logcheck&searchon=names

I have logcheck installed via the debian packages/apt.

Also the date and time are included, as long as it is a part of the
message (as is standard with syslog-provided messages).

-nicole



Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. 

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:42:36PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
>So generally:
>I'm looking for a good log-monitoring-tool - not only for Debian-
>systems (at least I'm honest) so I need to be able to also compile 
>and package it again myself for different systems.

I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
because, there are no debian-packages .. :(
But the big issue with logcheck is, that you can get mails with
log-entries, but logcheck cannot provide the time to each log-message.
:(
So .. it is quite unusable for a professional use... 

>Could you give me any advice, explain why Psionic was taken over by 
>cisco etc.? And where can I find current homepages for logcheck, 
>logsentry etc.?

www.google.de should know it.


regards
Jan
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Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi,

I read on this list that several people are using logcheck, right? Is 
this still up2date? Somewhere on the net I found that it was followed 
by logsentry from Psionic - but this company doesn't seem to exist 
anymore. Afaik logsentry at last was also free. And does anybody know 
something about LogRider 
(http://freshmeat.net/projects/logrider/?topic_id=253)?

So generally:
I'm looking for a good log-monitoring-tool - not only for Debian-
systems (at least I'm honest) so I need to be able to also compile 
and package it again myself for different systems.

Could you give me any advice, explain why Psionic was taken over by 
cisco etc.? And where can I find current homepages for logcheck, 
logsentry etc.?


Thank you
 Stefan



Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Montag, 31. März 2003 00:27 schrieb Jan-Hendrik Palic:
> I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
> because, there are no debian-packages .. :(

I don't know about sarge and woody, but logcheck in sid, roughly preconfigured 
for debian systems.

> But the big issue with logcheck is, that you can get mails with
> log-entries, but logcheck cannot provide the time to each log-message.
> So .. it is quite unusable for a professional use...

How should a logfile mailer do so? The timestamp must be inside the log file 
being parsed, where else should that info come from? Any "professionally 
usable" program should be able to time-stamp each of it's log message. Then 
logcheck sends things like 

Mar 30 23:34:58 hammer portsentry[1165]: attackalert: TCP SYN/Normal scan from 
host: 210.73.84.27/210.73.84.27 to TCP port: 21
Mar 30 23:34:58 hammer portsentry[1165]: attackalert: Host 210.73.84.27 has 
been blocked via wrappers with string: "ALL: 210.73.84.27 : DENY"

The only thing is, it's a bit of work to configure it, like any log mailer. 
You get spammed by reports and disable uninteresting stuff until you only get 
the interesting stuff. It's one or two weeks long 2-3 minutes of adding 
ignore entries and one minute from time to time to cope with what updated 
programs write into the log ;)

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Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread nicole


At 00:27 on Mar 31, Jan-Hendrik Palic shook the earth with:

> I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
> because, there are no debian-packages .. :(
> But the big issue with logcheck is, that you can get mails with
> log-entries, but logcheck cannot provide the time to each log-message.
> :(
> So .. it is quite unusable for a professional use...

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages2.pl?keywords=logcheck&searchon=names

I have logcheck installed via the debian packages/apt.

Also the date and time are included, as long as it is a part of the
message (as is standard with syslog-provided messages).

-nicole


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Re: Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. 

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:42:36PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
>So generally:
>I'm looking for a good log-monitoring-tool - not only for Debian-
>systems (at least I'm honest) so I need to be able to also compile 
>and package it again myself for different systems.

I am using logcheck, personally installed on my Debian-Server/WS,
because, there are no debian-packages .. :(
But the big issue with logcheck is, that you can get mails with
log-entries, but logcheck cannot provide the time to each log-message.
:(
So .. it is quite unusable for a professional use... 

>Could you give me any advice, explain why Psionic was taken over by 
>cisco etc.? And where can I find current homepages for logcheck, 
>logsentry etc.?

www.google.de should know it.


regards
Jan
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Logcheck, Logsentry, LogRider etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi,

I read on this list that several people are using logcheck, right? Is 
this still up2date? Somewhere on the net I found that it was followed 
by logsentry from Psionic - but this company doesn't seem to exist 
anymore. Afaik logsentry at last was also free. And does anybody know 
something about LogRider 
(http://freshmeat.net/projects/logrider/?topic_id=253)?

So generally:
I'm looking for a good log-monitoring-tool - not only for Debian-
systems (at least I'm honest) so I need to be able to also compile 
and package it again myself for different systems.

Could you give me any advice, explain why Psionic was taken over by 
cisco etc.? And where can I find current homepages for logcheck, 
logsentry etc.?


Thank you
 Stefan


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