Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 00:44, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm looking at this triade:
   Tripwire
   Aide
   Fcheck
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether there are 
other more trusted alternatives.
 My main argument ageinst tripwire is it's pseudo-commercial source.
 
A online database with md5sums of systems:
http://www.knowngoods.org/index.php

The bad thing that they still have only Debian 2.2r5 md5sums.

You can try the file integrity checker of them at:
http://osiris.shmoo.com/

cya,
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Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 00:44, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm looking at this triade:
   Tripwire
   Aide
   Fcheck
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether there 
 are other more trusted alternatives.
 My main argument ageinst tripwire is it's pseudo-commercial source.
 
A online database with md5sums of systems:
http://www.knowngoods.org/index.php

The bad thing that they still have only Debian 2.2r5 md5sums.

You can try the file integrity checker of them at:
http://osiris.shmoo.com/

cya,
Gustavo Franco -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-05 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:44:12PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether there are 
other more trusted alternatives.
 My main argument ageinst tripwire is it's pseudo-commercial source.

I use tripwire and recommend it strongly.  The version in unstable is
100% free software, and the quality is very good.  It's probably best to
build it from source if you want to install it on a non-unstable system.
The source is available at www.tripwire.org.

The only drawback to tripwire, IMHO, is that because it's written in
C++, it may be difficult to get running on non-x86 systems.  Presumably
g++ 3.2 will help address that issue.

noah

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Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 The only drawback to tripwire, IMHO, is that because it's written in
 C++, it may be difficult to get running on non-x86 systems.  Presumably
 g++ 3.2 will help address that issue.

When last I checked, it also lacks autoconf support.  

AIDE, by comparison, is pure C, with autoconf support, and thus very
portable.

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RE: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-05 Thread Domonkos Czinke
Hi,

I'm using integrit for a while and its working fine here. Fast, small
memory usage and good reporting system. I'm using it with CODA (binary,
config and databases are on the CODA server), and its working fine :) 

Cheers,
Domonkos Czinke

 





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From: Johannes Graumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 3:44 AM
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Subject: File system integrity checkers - comparison?


Hello,

I'm looking at this triade:
Tripwire
Aide
Fcheck
and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether
there are other more trusted alternatives.
My main argument ageinst tripwire is it's pseudo-commercial source.

Thankful for any comment,

Joh



Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-05 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:44:12PM -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether there 
 are other more trusted alternatives.
 My main argument ageinst tripwire is it's pseudo-commercial source.

I use tripwire and recommend it strongly.  The version in unstable is
100% free software, and the quality is very good.  It's probably best to
build it from source if you want to install it on a non-unstable system.
The source is available at www.tripwire.org.

The only drawback to tripwire, IMHO, is that because it's written in
C++, it may be difficult to get running on non-x86 systems.  Presumably
g++ 3.2 will help address that issue.

noah

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Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 The only drawback to tripwire, IMHO, is that because it's written in
 C++, it may be difficult to get running on non-x86 systems.  Presumably
 g++ 3.2 will help address that issue.

When last I checked, it also lacks autoconf support.  

AIDE, by comparison, is pure C, with autoconf support, and thus very
portable.

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Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Graumann
What's your reasoning?

Joh

On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 13:01:46 +1000
Alexander Zangerl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:44:12 PST, Johannes Graumann writes:
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether
 there are other more trusted alternatives.
 
 samhain is my personal favourite.
 
 mfg
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Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Graumann
What's your reasoning?

Joh

On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 13:01:46 +1000
Alexander Zangerl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:44:12 PST, Johannes Graumann writes:
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or whether
 there are other more trusted alternatives.
 
 samhain is my personal favourite.
 
 mfg
 az
 
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Re: File system integrity checkers - comparison?

2002-12-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Johannes Graumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm looking at this triade:
   Tripwire
   Aide
   Fcheck
 and was wondering as to what this group is prefering and why or
 whether there are other more trusted alternatives.

You might want to include integrit and samhain as well.  May filetraq
too.

I'm using integrit, fcheck and filetraq on a fairly minimal internal
server running sarge.
  Integrit is fine, plenty of ways to customize it to your setup and I
use it with a daily cron  job (I believe that's what the default setup
does, but I've  mucked around with that).  These  runs check the whole
system (in principle everything below /) quite thoroughly.
  Fcheck is not as flexible (I'm thinking of replacing it with aide
once I have some time) but I use it for a quick hourly check of the
more important stuff (/bin, /sbin, /lib and the /usr versions of
these)
  I used to have fcheck go over /etc as well, but am using filetraq
for that now.  The main advantage is that it will keep time-stamped
backups of all files so you can go back a version or more.  Drawback
is that you may have to clean out the backups occasionally.  What I
like most though, is that it sends you diffs(!) of the changes made
to any file monitored.  I think my set up check every 10 minutes or
so for changes.

 My main argument ageinst tripwire is it's pseudo-commercial source.

If it ain't in main, it ain't debian :-P
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