Re: Kernel-Question

2003-11-28 Thread funky soul
hi Matthias,

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:47:50 +0100
Matthias Wieser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does it make sense to use module-disabled kernels to prevent root kits to be
> used with a kernel?

afaik, yes. set CONFIG_MODULES to no. just not compiling any modules is not
enough.

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Re: Kernel-Question

2003-11-28 Thread Diederik de Vries
Op vr 28-11-2003, om 10:47 schreef Matthias Wieser:

Matthias,

AFAIK NO, it doesn't. There were programs to ENABLE modules on a
module-disabled kernel.

> Does it make sense to use module-disabled kernels to prevent root kits to be
> used with a kernel?
> 
> Thank you, Matthias Wieser

Regards,

Diederik de Vries
Rotterdam, The Netherlands



Re: Kernel-Question

2003-11-28 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Matthias Wieser wrote:

> Does it make sense to use module-disabled kernels to prevent root kits to be
> used with a kernel?

There are other ways to insert code into a running kernel. However, it may
break some automated worms or stop script kiddies who don't quite know
what they are doing and what to do if their module insertion fails. If you
are serious about it, and want to spend the time needed to configure
things properly, use grsecurity or SELinux or similar approaches.

just my 2¢...
Giacomo


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Re: Kernel-Question

2003-11-28 Thread funky soul
hi Matthias,

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:47:50 +0100
Matthias Wieser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does it make sense to use module-disabled kernels to prevent root kits to be
> used with a kernel?

afaik, yes. set CONFIG_MODULES to no. just not compiling any modules is not
enough.

f. soul.

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  ): :( swissonline.ch
  :o_o: 
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Re: Kernel-Question

2003-11-28 Thread Diederik de Vries
Op vr 28-11-2003, om 10:47 schreef Matthias Wieser:

Matthias,

AFAIK NO, it doesn't. There were programs to ENABLE modules on a
module-disabled kernel.

> Does it make sense to use module-disabled kernels to prevent root kits to be
> used with a kernel?
> 
> Thank you, Matthias Wieser

Regards,

Diederik de Vries
Rotterdam, The Netherlands


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Re: Kernel-Question

2003-11-28 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Matthias Wieser wrote:

> Does it make sense to use module-disabled kernels to prevent root kits to be
> used with a kernel?

There are other ways to insert code into a running kernel. However, it may
break some automated worms or stop script kiddies who don't quite know
what they are doing and what to do if their module insertion fails. If you
are serious about it, and want to spend the time needed to configure
things properly, use grsecurity or SELinux or similar approaches.

just my 2¢...
Giacomo


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