Re: snort-stat warnings

2008-08-03 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 15:07 +0200, Bjoern Meier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> well, it's mir first post on this list. So please don't flame me ;-)
> 
> Ok under the docoments of snort is a file called README.http_inspect , 
> from which I quote:

Thanks. I know what the check does though. :-)

My concern was why it's getting logged oddly, and therefore causing
snort-stat to warn about a possible problem with the file. fwiw, the
bare encoding check isn't the only one that sometimes gets logged in
this way, just the one that I happened to pick as an example.

Adam


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Re: snort-stat warnings

2008-07-30 Thread Bjoern Meier

Hi,

well, it's mir first post on this list. So please don't flame me ;-)

Ok under the docoments of snort is a file called README.http_inspect , 
from which I quote:


 Bare byte encoding is an IIS trick that uses non-ASCII chars as valid 

values in

 decoding UTF-8 values. This is NOT in the HTTP standard, as all non-ASCII
 values have to be encoded with a %. Bare byte encoding allows the user to
 emulate an IIS server and interpret non-standard encodings correctly.

 The alert on this decoding should be enabled, because there are no 

legitimate

 clients that encoded UTF-8 this way, since it is non-standard.


hope this helps

Bye,

Bjoern aka salacryl

Adam D. Barratt wrote:

 Hi,

 We're running snort 2.3.3-11 on etch, and for the past few days the 
cron.daily job has been generating a number of "Warning, file may be 
incomplete" messages.


 After a little experimentation, it appears that this is due to 
/var/log/snort/alert containing the "header" line for a number of alerts 
repeated (either that or the remaining data from the first item being 
lost); for example:


 [...]
 [[**] [119:4:1] (http_inspect) BARE BYTE UNICODE ENCODING [**]]
 [[**] [119:4:1] (http_inspect) BARE BYTE UNICODE ENCODING [**]]
 [...]

 Does anyone know what causes this, and whether it's anything we need 

to be worried about?


 Cheers,

 Adam




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Re: snort, where to listen?

2003-05-15 Thread tps
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 09:49:32AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed Snort IDS on my firewall Debian box which is so configured:
> 
> eth0 10.0.0.1 (serves internal LAN)
> eth1 192.168.100.1 (directly connected to an ADSL modem auto-connecting to 
> the 
> provider with IP 192.168.100.2)
> 
> I run snort on eth1 NOT in promiscuos mode and I send periodic email reports 
> to me.
> 
> The problem is that I receive messages from the kernel (firewall) indicating 
> some 
> "action" blocked from the internet, but snort never shows up anything in its 
> reports.
> 
> Could someone tell me if I misconfigured the system and, please, a possible 
> right 
> configuration ?

That would all depend on how you have Snort configured (ruleset) and
what the actual kernel messages say. Just because you block an unwanted 
connection to a certain port doesn't mean the connection attempt matched
a rule. Also, if it was blocked by the kernel, snort may have never
seen it, since you are not in promisc. mode, IIRC.

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Re: Snort signature download script

2003-04-27 Thread Kristof Goossens
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:52:58PM +0200, Konstantin Filtschew wrote:
> hi,
> 
> there is a signature download script posted on
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=173254
> 
> from http://www.xssass.be
> 
> I tried it, but he tells me, that the md5 checksum is wrong
> 
> you can download the script from here: http://www.xssass.be/updateSnort
> 
> who can tell me anything about the script and it's quality

On request, I translated the comments in the script... It might be interesting
for those on the list that want to alter the script to fit their own needs.

The URL is still http://www.xssass.be/updateSnort. Sorry if you consider this
(slightly) OT!

Kind regards,
Kristof

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Re: Snort signature download script

2003-04-26 Thread Kristof Goossens
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:52:58PM +0200, Konstantin Filtschew wrote:
> hi,
> 
> there is a signature download script posted on
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=173254
> 
> from http://www.xssass.be
> 
> I tried it, but he tells me, that the md5 checksum is wrong

Ah... :(
There was a bug in the script... We did correct the script already, but
apparently, we did not put the new script online. I will do this as soon
as I finished typing this mail :)

The script that will be available within a few minutes (same location:
http://www.xssass.be/updateSnort) works fine for snort 2.0.0. We use it with
that version and it updates perfectly without any troubles. We just can't
assure you that it will work with snort 1.9.x, but because of security reasons,
we would advise everybody to switch to snort 2.0.0 anyway.

> you can download the script from here: http://www.xssass.be/updateSnort
> who can tell me anything about the script and it's quality

My friend and I wrote the script...
It's a perlscript, and it works fine... It downloads the new rules from the
snort website, as well as the md5 checksum... If the checksum matches, it will
download and install the new rules. Then alter the snort.conf file to include
the new rules, and restart snort.
 

Kind regards,
Kristof

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Re: Snort exploit in wild.

2003-04-25 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 10:44:49PM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote:
> The general consensus of opinion (including the Debian packager) was
> that *nobody* should even consider using the V1.8.4 Snort package in
> Woody - it's much too old, and has a number of security issues.

It's not really that it has a number of security issues; It's more that
no new rulesets are being developed for it, and thus it can't detect any
attempts to exploit vulnerabilities more recent than its last ruleset.
Obviously that defeats the purpose of using a rule-based traffic
analyzer like snort.

> Most people's advice was to stop using the Debian package, and instead
> download & compile the latest source from www.snort.org, and keep
> tracking new releases from there - and get signature updates from
> there as well.  This is what I do now.

Yes, that's generally the least disruptive to your Debian system.  I've
seen people run a hybrid woody/sid system just to get the new snort.  If
you build it yourself, you don't need to worry about upgrading to
unstable and unsupported (by the sec team) software.

> Some people think Snort should actually be removed from the Debian
> package collection, because it will always drift seriously out of date
> over time, and because there's no easy way to incorporate up-to-date
> signatures (rules) into Debian.

It would be less of an issue if you could actually *get* new rules for
the version of snort that's in woody.  There wouldn't be anything to
stop you from downloading the new rules (which are distributed
independently of snort itself and updated regularly) and untarring them
into the right place and having the right thing happened.

Yes, snort should probably not be shipping with Debian.  Sticking with
an outdated version of snort is counterproductive and, at the very
least, likely to give you a false sense of security regarding the
traffic hitting your machines.

I wish people were more open to the idea of letting a wholly new version
(say, an up to date 1.9) enter woody with its next revision, but that's
not going to happen.

noah

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Re: Snort exploit in wild.

2003-04-25 Thread Nick Boyce
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:19:59 +0100, David Ramsden wrote:

>Noticed on vil.mcafee.com that a proof of concept exploit for Snort to
>exploit the vuln. found in v1.8 through to 1.9.1.
[...]
>What's the status of a patch from Debian Security? No DSA yet either.
>I know this has been brought up a few times already but now an exploit
>exists in the wild.

David, you probably want to look at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=173254
which I submitted after a previous discussion on this list (December
2002) about problems with the Debian stable Snort package being out of
date.

The general consensus of opinion (including the Debian packager) was
that *nobody* should even consider using the V1.8.4 Snort package in
Woody - it's much too old, and has a number of security issues.

Most people's advice was to stop using the Debian package, and instead
download & compile the latest source from www.snort.org, and keep
tracking new releases from there - and get signature updates from
there as well.  This is what I do now.

Some people think Snort should actually be removed from the Debian
package collection, because it will always drift seriously out of date
over time, and because there's no easy way to incorporate up-to-date
signatures (rules) into Debian.

Cheers,

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Re: Snort exploit in wild.

2003-04-25 Thread David Ramsden
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David Ramsden wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Noticed on vil.mcafee.com that a proof of concept exploit for Snort to
>exploit the vuln. found in v1.8 through to 1.9.1.
>
>Packet Storm Security have this proof of concept on their site (local
>exploit at the moment).
>It uses a call-back technique to spawn a shell on the attackers machine,
>via a connection from the compromised machine.
>I've not tried this on my Debian machines yet, so can't say if it works
>- You'd need the return address for Debian as only Slackware is support
>in this proof of concept.
>
>What's the status of a patch from Debian Security? No DSA yet either.
>I know this has been brought up a few times already but now an exploit
>exists in the wild.
>
>As a workaround, I could disable snort (granted) but also, how can I use
>/etc/apt/preferences to update /just/ snort to a non-vuln. version from
>another branch (unstable/testing)? What line do I need in
>/etc/apt/sources.list? And how easy is it to downgrade to the stable
>version if something goes wrong or a patch is released from Debian?
>
>Thanks for all the help and regards,
>David.

Hi

Following the advice from heise.de [1] it should be enough to comment 
out the line:

preprocessor stream4_reassemble

in your /etc/snort/snort.conf

as the vulnerability is in this module. Of course you will loose some 
information. But saver is better ;-)

Regards

Marcel

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Re: Snort exploit in wild.

2003-04-25 Thread Gian Piero Carrubba
Il ven, 2003-04-25 alle 11:19, David Ramsden ha scritto:

> Noticed on vil.mcafee.com that a proof of concept exploit for Snort to
> exploit the vuln. found in v1.8 through to 1.9.1.

up to 2.0rc1 as reported by cert

> What's the status of a patch from Debian Security? No DSA yet either.
> I know this has been brought up a few times already but now an exploit
> exists in the wild.

don't know if the debian package is affected, however it should

> As a workaround, I could disable snort (granted) but also, how can I use
> /etc/apt/preferences to update /just/ snort to a non-vuln. version from
> another branch (unstable/testing)? What line do I need in
> /etc/apt/sources.list? And how easy is it to downgrade to the stable
> version if something goes wrong or a patch is released from Debian?

don't do it... unstable/snort depends on a libc version not available in
stable, and maybe there are some other unresolved dependencies...
instead get the deb-src and try to recompile... i think it's not so
linear, but it should work... 

in the meantime (from the cert advisory):

> Disable affected preprocessor modules
>
> Sites  that  are  unable to immediately upgrade affected Snort sensors
> may  prevent  exploitation of this vulnerability by commenting out the
> affected preprocessor modules in the "snort.conf" configuration file.
> 
> To prevent exploitation of VU#139129, comment out the following line:
>
> preprocessor stream4_reassemble
>
> To prevent exploitation of VU#916785, comment out the following line:
>
> preprocessor rpc_decode: 111 32771
>
> After commenting out the affected modules, send a SIGHUP signal to the
> affected   Snort  process  to  update  the  configuration.  Note  that
> disabling these modules may have adverse affects on a sensor's ability
> to correctly process RPC record fragments and TCP packet fragments. In
> particular,  disabling  the "stream4" preprocessor module will prevent
> the Snort sensor from detecting a variety of IDS evasion attacks.

Regards,
Gian Piero.

PS: about the pinning question, please read the apt-howto



Re: Snort exploit in wild.

2003-04-25 Thread David Ramsden
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:13:38PM +0200, Marcel Weber wrote:
> David Ramsden wrote:
> 
[snip]
> 
> Following the advice from heise.de [1] it should be enough to comment 
> out the line:
> 
> preprocessor stream4_reassemble
> 
> in your /etc/snort/snort.conf
> 
> as the vulnerability is in this module. Of course you will loose some 
> information. But saver is better ;-)
> 
[snip]
> 
> [1] 
> (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/data/pab-16.04.03-000/default.shtml&words=Snort)

Thank you for the information.
I had a quick look on the bug tracking system for Debian and found
information for the RPC decoder exploit, so have commented that out.

I'll now disable what's been suggested and wait for a DSA.

Thanks for the information on this Marcel.
Kind regards,
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Re: Snort exploit in wild.

2003-04-25 Thread Marcel Weber

David Ramsden wrote:


Hi,

Noticed on vil.mcafee.com that a proof of concept exploit for Snort to
exploit the vuln. found in v1.8 through to 1.9.1.

Packet Storm Security have this proof of concept on their site (local
exploit at the moment).
It uses a call-back technique to spawn a shell on the attackers machine,
via a connection from the compromised machine.
I've not tried this on my Debian machines yet, so can't say if it works
- You'd need the return address for Debian as only Slackware is support
in this proof of concept.

What's the status of a patch from Debian Security? No DSA yet either.
I know this has been brought up a few times already but now an exploit
exists in the wild.

As a workaround, I could disable snort (granted) but also, how can I use
/etc/apt/preferences to update /just/ snort to a non-vuln. version from
another branch (unstable/testing)? What line do I need in
/etc/apt/sources.list? And how easy is it to downgrade to the stable
version if something goes wrong or a patch is released from Debian?

Thanks for all the help and regards,
David.


Hi

Following the advice from heise.de [1] it should be enough to comment 
out the line:


preprocessor stream4_reassemble

in your /etc/snort/snort.conf

as the vulnerability is in this module. Of course you will loose some 
information. But saver is better ;-)


Regards

Marcel

[1] 
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Re: Snort

2003-02-18 Thread Steve Suehring

There should be some logging taking place, hopefully from snort itself.  
One thing to try, which will all but rule out a permissions issue would be 
to try to connect using the MySQL CLI as the user you setup.  So, 
something like this:

mysql -u snortuser -p snort

Probably wouldn't hurt to show tables within that database.

One other idea would be to jump onto the snort users mailing list or 
(preferably) check the archive for that list.  This problem has come up 
before and isn't debian specific.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=snort-users

Steve

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:19:24AM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> All,
> 
> I have been having problems with snort, this may be kind of OT for this
> list (should be debian-user) but I have a feeling more people on this
> list use snort.
> 
> I manage 2 potato converted to woody machines.  Each morning I receive 2
> blank reports from cron.daily.
> 
> I have snort-mysql installed.  snort appears to be running fine but
> nothing ever gets written to the mysql database.  The username/password
> I gave snort have update/select/insert rights to the mysql DB.
> 
> Any clue of where I can start looking for problems as to why this isn't
> working?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Snort

2003-02-18 Thread Steve Suehring

There should be some logging taking place, hopefully from snort itself.  
One thing to try, which will all but rule out a permissions issue would be 
to try to connect using the MySQL CLI as the user you setup.  So, 
something like this:

mysql -u snortuser -p snort

Probably wouldn't hurt to show tables within that database.

One other idea would be to jump onto the snort users mailing list or 
(preferably) check the archive for that list.  This problem has come up 
before and isn't debian specific.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=snort-users

Steve

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:19:24AM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> All,
> 
> I have been having problems with snort, this may be kind of OT for this
> list (should be debian-user) but I have a feeling more people on this
> list use snort.
> 
> I manage 2 potato converted to woody machines.  Each morning I receive 2
> blank reports from cron.daily.
> 
> I have snort-mysql installed.  snort appears to be running fine but
> nothing ever gets written to the mysql database.  The username/password
> I gave snort have update/select/insert rights to the mysql DB.
> 
> Any clue of where I can start looking for problems as to why this isn't
> working?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Snort

2003-02-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One other thing I can think of (even though I primarily use redhat) is
if you are logging to a different computer other than localhost, make
sure that:
- you don't have a firewall blocking the inbound connection
- you have /etc/hosts.allow configured properly
- i'm not sure about debian+mysql, but I use redhat+postgresql and I had
to change its configuration files to allow connections from remote
systems.


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Re: Snort

2003-02-17 Thread andrew lattis
On 2003/02/17 10:19:24AM -0500, Mon, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> 
> I have snort-mysql installed.  snort appears to be running fine but
> nothing ever gets written to the mysql database.  The username/password
> I gave snort have update/select/insert rights to the mysql DB.
> 
> Any clue of where I can start looking for problems as to why this isn't
> working?
> 

have you added an output option to snort.conf? eg
output database: log, mysql, user=db_user password=db_pass dbname=snort 
host=localhost

also, check /var/log/syslog, see if its giving any errors when starting up

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Re: Snort

2003-02-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One other thing I can think of (even though I primarily use redhat) is
if you are logging to a different computer other than localhost, make
sure that:
- you don't have a firewall blocking the inbound connection
- you have /etc/hosts.allow configured properly
- i'm not sure about debian+mysql, but I use redhat+postgresql and I had
to change its configuration files to allow connections from remote
systems.


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Re: Snort

2003-02-17 Thread David Hardne
 Phillip Hofmeister wrote on Feb 17, 2003 at 10:19:24 AM:
> All,
> 
> I have been having problems with snort, this may be kind of OT for this
> list (should be debian-user) but I have a feeling more people on this
> list use snort.
> 
> I manage 2 potato converted to woody machines.  Each morning I receive 2
> blank reports from cron.daily.
> 
> I have snort-mysql installed.  snort appears to be running fine but
> nothing ever gets written to the mysql database.  The username/password
> I gave snort have update/select/insert rights to the mysql DB.
> 
> Any clue of where I can start looking for problems as to why this isn't
> working?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Phil
> 

I don't know about snort-mysql, but I got the same empty reports
initially from snort (non-mysql package) on a woody machine also
upgraded from potato. 

In my case the problem was snort by default logging only to 
/var/log/alerts, while snort-stat (running from /etc/cron.daily/5snort) 
was operating on /var/log/auth.log.  

Regards,

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Re: Snort

2003-02-17 Thread andrew lattis
On 2003/02/17 10:19:24AM -0500, Mon, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> 
> I have snort-mysql installed.  snort appears to be running fine but
> nothing ever gets written to the mysql database.  The username/password
> I gave snort have update/select/insert rights to the mysql DB.
> 
> Any clue of where I can start looking for problems as to why this isn't
> working?
> 

have you added an output option to snort.conf? eg
output database: log, mysql, user=db_user password=db_pass dbname=snort host=localhost

also, check /var/log/syslog, see if its giving any errors when starting up

andrew

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Re: Snort

2003-02-17 Thread David Hardne
 Phillip Hofmeister wrote on Feb 17, 2003 at 10:19:24 AM:
> All,
> 
> I have been having problems with snort, this may be kind of OT for this
> list (should be debian-user) but I have a feeling more people on this
> list use snort.
> 
> I manage 2 potato converted to woody machines.  Each morning I receive 2
> blank reports from cron.daily.
> 
> I have snort-mysql installed.  snort appears to be running fine but
> nothing ever gets written to the mysql database.  The username/password
> I gave snort have update/select/insert rights to the mysql DB.
> 
> Any clue of where I can start looking for problems as to why this isn't
> working?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Phil
> 

I don't know about snort-mysql, but I got the same empty reports
initially from snort (non-mysql package) on a woody machine also
upgraded from potato. 

In my case the problem was snort by default logging only to 
/var/log/alerts, while snort-stat (running from /etc/cron.daily/5snort) 
was operating on /var/log/auth.log.  

Regards,

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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-13 Thread Ricardo Sousa
I'm sending all logs to one only host with syslog-ng. 
This can give me a lot of information if not filtered, but snort also
makes daily reports and then sends them via mail to root or another user
that i can define.

This extra information is usefull as all the other.
After reading all mails of the community, i think that ssmtp is the best
choice for what i want to use, because:

1) as i said this host is a gateway and is in direct contact with www
2) no need to more services / open doors
3) last but not the least, there's less probability of a hole.

Now, time to read the ssmtp doc's =)
Thank you all.
Regards, Ricardo Sousa.

On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:14, Philipp Hetzner wrote:
> n Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:
> 
> 
>  >> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?
> 
> An other way is to log your syslog-messages to a remote host (e.g. with 
> syslog-ng²) and this host could handle the informations (prepare the 
> data with ACID³ and display it over https, sending mails ...). Syslog-ng 
> works on any port u want (e.g. 22) and supports encryption.
> 
> Philipp Hetzner
> 
> ²http://www.balabit.hu/en/downloads/syslog-ng/
> ³http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~rdanyliw/snort/snortacid.html
> 
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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-13 Thread Ricardo Sousa
I'm sending all logs to one only host with syslog-ng. 
This can give me a lot of information if not filtered, but snort also
makes daily reports and then sends them via mail to root or another user
that i can define.

This extra information is usefull as all the other.
After reading all mails of the community, i think that ssmtp is the best
choice for what i want to use, because:

1) as i said this host is a gateway and is in direct contact with www
2) no need to more services / open doors
3) last but not the least, there's less probability of a hole.

Now, time to read the ssmtp doc's =)
Thank you all.
Regards, Ricardo Sousa.

On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:14, Philipp Hetzner wrote:
> n Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:
> 
> 
>  >> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?
> 
> An other way is to log your syslog-messages to a remote host (e.g. with 
> syslog-ng²) and this host could handle the informations (prepare the 
> data with ACID³ and display it over https, sending mails ...). Syslog-ng 
> works on any port u want (e.g. 22) and supports encryption.
> 
> Philipp Hetzner
> 
> ²http://www.balabit.hu/en/downloads/syslog-ng/
> ³http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~rdanyliw/snort/snortacid.html
> 
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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-13 Thread Philipp Hetzner

n Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:


>> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?

An other way is to log your syslog-messages to a remote host (e.g. with 
syslog-ng²) and this host could handle the informations (prepare the 
data with ACID³ and display it over https, sending mails ...). Syslog-ng 
works on any port u want (e.g. 22) and supports encryption.


Philipp Hetzner

²http://www.balabit.hu/en/downloads/syslog-ng/
³http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~rdanyliw/snort/snortacid.html



Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-13 Thread Philipp Hetzner
n Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:


>> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?

An other way is to log your syslog-messages to a remote host (e.g. with 
syslog-ng²) and this host could handle the informations (prepare the 
data with ACID³ and display it over https, sending mails ...). Syslog-ng 
works on any port u want (e.g. 22) and supports encryption.

Philipp Hetzner

²http://www.balabit.hu/en/downloads/syslog-ng/
³http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~rdanyliw/snort/snortacid.html


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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Renfro
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:

> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?

I may be missing how snort sends its logs, but:

* If you're reading the mail on the same system that snort's installed
  on, you can use the "local delivery only" option in eximconfig.

* If you're reading the mail on a different system, I'd think you
  could configure exim (or some other MTA) to not listen on any port
  at all (make sure it's not in inetd, and remove all startup links in
  /etc/rc?.d, since snort probably just uses mail, mailx, or pipes to
  /usr/sbin/sendmail.

Neither option should require an open smtp port, and you'd only be
vulnerable to remote holes in snort or ssh, plus local holes in
whatever else is on the system.

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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-12 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:
> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?

ssh-keygen and scp is one way

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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Renfro
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:

> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?

I may be missing how snort sends its logs, but:

* If you're reading the mail on the same system that snort's installed
  on, you can use the "local delivery only" option in eximconfig.

* If you're reading the mail on a different system, I'd think you
  could configure exim (or some other MTA) to not listen on any port
  at all (make sure it's not in inetd, and remove all startup links in
  /etc/rc?.d, since snort probably just uses mail, mailx, or pipes to
  /usr/sbin/sendmail.

Neither option should require an open smtp port, and you'd only be
vulnerable to remote holes in snort or ssh, plus local holes in
whatever else is on the system.

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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-12 Thread Andreas Blaafladt
* Ricardo Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-13 01:50:44]:
> Hi people.
> I'd like to have some sugestions and/or opinions about one thing that
> i'm doing here in my network.
> Well, i've a gateway with only 2 services (ssh and portmap). As lately i
> removed the mail service, because in fact i don't need in this host, a
> problem as surged with snort. How can i send/view snort stats without
> mailing them ?!?
> There's any workaround to this pseudo-problem without enabling mail
> service?
> 

You might want to check out the ssmtp package. 

Taken from apt-cache show ssmtp;

"Description: Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub
A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your
mail hub. It contains no suid-binaries or other dangerous things - no mail
spool to poke around in, and no daemons running in the background. Mail is
simply forwarded to the configured mailhost. Extremely easy configuration."


Regards,

/Andreas

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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-12 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:15:55AM +, Ricardo Sousa wrote:
> How can i send/view snort stats without mailing them ?!?

ssh-keygen and scp is one way

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Re: snort-stats without mailing...

2003-02-12 Thread Andreas Blaafladt
* Ricardo Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-13 01:50:44]:
> Hi people.
> I'd like to have some sugestions and/or opinions about one thing that
> i'm doing here in my network.
> Well, i've a gateway with only 2 services (ssh and portmap). As lately i
> removed the mail service, because in fact i don't need in this host, a
> problem as surged with snort. How can i send/view snort stats without
> mailing them ?!?
> There's any workaround to this pseudo-problem without enabling mail
> service?
> 

You might want to check out the ssmtp package. 

Taken from apt-cache show ssmtp;

"Description: Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub
A secure, effective and simple way of getting mail off a system to your
mail hub. It contains no suid-binaries or other dangerous things - no mail
spool to poke around in, and no daemons running in the background. Mail is
simply forwarded to the configured mailhost. Extremely easy configuration."


Regards,

/Andreas

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Andris Kalnozols
> Once again I ask, please do not use procmail or any other automated
> system to report mail to razor that comes from a Debian list!!!
> 
> From: Andris Kalnozols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???
> To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:25:47 PST
> Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:37:04 -0500
> X-Razor-Warning: SPAM.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phil

Hi, Phil.  Was this admonition directed at me or was the display
of the "X-Razor-Warning: SPAM." header meant to illustrate the
negative consequences to the true guily party?

Although we plan to implement SpamAssassin, we'll take the
conservative approach and _not_ enable the automatic reporting
feature to Razor for just the reason you stated.

Andris



Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Andris Kalnozols
> Once again I ask, please do not use procmail or any other automated
> system to report mail to razor that comes from a Debian list!!!
> 
> From: Andris Kalnozols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:25:47 PST
> Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:37:04 -0500
> X-Razor-Warning: SPAM.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phil

Hi, Phil.  Was this admonition directed at me or was the display
of the "X-Razor-Warning: SPAM." header meant to illustrate the
negative consequences to the true guily party?

Although we plan to implement SpamAssassin, we'll take the
conservative approach and _not_ enable the automatic reporting
feature to Razor for just the reason you stated.

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
Once again I ask, please do not use procmail or any other automated
system to report mail to razor that comes from a Debian list!!!

From: Andris Kalnozols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:25:47 PST
Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:37:04 -0500
X-Razor-Warning: SPAM.

Regards,

Phil

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 at 06:25:47PM -0800, Andris Kalnozols wrote:
> > Perhaps I did not state this clearly enough. The majority of cases
> > I run across are caused by an entirely unnecessary dependancy to
> > a version of libc6 which isn't in any way required for the package
> > in question. Yes, one can fix this manually. Every time, for every
> > package. Which naturally means you do it once or twice and then
> > say "oh forget it" and wait a year or whatever until the next stable
> > upgrade.
> > 
> > Package Dependencies on lib versions (or any other entity for that
> > matter)  really are several entirely different things:
> > 
> > * the API changed and my application will fail with any
> >   lib version prior to this one because it relies on
> >   the changes.
> > 
> > * bug fixes went into this lib version without which my
> >   app will crash.
> > 
> > * bug fixes went into this version which I specifically
> >   want/prefer for my application, but it won't crash
> >   on the older one.
> > 
> > * I just like to use the latest set of lib version digits
> >   for no particular reason.
> > 
> > I suspect the majority of package version dependencies fall into
> > the last category.
> > 
> > If this was dealt with, there would be a much higher level of
> > interoperability between packages in various dists. Still a 
> > caveat emptor, but far, far easier to deal with.
> 
> Is this an example of what you mean?
> 
>   /usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found
> (required by /usr/sbin/sendmail)
> 
> After `apt-get' upgraded sendmail to 8.12.6, this error appeared.
> As I recall from another Debian list, the response from whoever
> compiled this version was something like "Oops, stuff happens
> in the testing distro" but, a month later, there's still no working
> replacement.  How does one go about fixing this kind of problem?
> 
> Andris
> 
> 
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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Dale Amon
Perhaps what I'm suggesting is an idea for the package people
to consider. Instead of Required: being univalued, perhaps 
have a minimum useable version required and a preferred version.
Default to the prefered but give the user via dselect and
apt a means of pinning to the "minimum" instead. 

That would let me selectively pull in a number of security tools
I began using on a sid dist that I sorely miss in woody. I 
simply don't have time to repackage them all and be my own
package maintainer. I doubt any of them has *real* dependencies
such that they would not work perfectly well with the woody
libs.



Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 06:25:47PM -0800, Andris Kalnozols wrote:
> Is this an example of what you mean?
> 
>   /usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found
> (required by /usr/sbin/sendmail)
> 
> After `apt-get' upgraded sendmail to 8.12.6, this error appeared.
> As I recall from another Debian list, the response from whoever
> compiled this version was something like "Oops, stuff happens
> in the testing distro" but, a month later, there's still no working
> replacement.  How does one go about fixing this kind of problem?
> 
> Andris

More basic than that. You will find packages that refuse to build without
pulling in a new libc6 they don't even need. This comes from a dependency
for say:

>= libc6_2.2.5-13

when there is actually no reason that anything after

>= libc6_2.2.1-1

would have worked. Perhaps there are good reasons for requiring the absolute
latest revision. Usually there are not unless you really do intend to 
upgrade a large chunk of your system. 

The case you are describing is far worse. It's broken period, not
just an annoyance and the cause of loads of unnecessary package
dependency caused upgrades.



Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
Once again I ask, please do not use procmail or any other automated
system to report mail to razor that comes from a Debian list!!!

From: Andris Kalnozols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:25:47 PST
Delivery-date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:37:04 -0500
X-Razor-Warning: SPAM.

Regards,

Phil

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 at 06:25:47PM -0800, Andris Kalnozols wrote:
> > Perhaps I did not state this clearly enough. The majority of cases
> > I run across are caused by an entirely unnecessary dependancy to
> > a version of libc6 which isn't in any way required for the package
> > in question. Yes, one can fix this manually. Every time, for every
> > package. Which naturally means you do it once or twice and then
> > say "oh forget it" and wait a year or whatever until the next stable
> > upgrade.
> > 
> > Package Dependencies on lib versions (or any other entity for that
> > matter)  really are several entirely different things:
> > 
> > * the API changed and my application will fail with any
> >   lib version prior to this one because it relies on
> >   the changes.
> > 
> > * bug fixes went into this lib version without which my
> >   app will crash.
> > 
> > * bug fixes went into this version which I specifically
> >   want/prefer for my application, but it won't crash
> >   on the older one.
> > 
> > * I just like to use the latest set of lib version digits
> >   for no particular reason.
> > 
> > I suspect the majority of package version dependencies fall into
> > the last category.
> > 
> > If this was dealt with, there would be a much higher level of
> > interoperability between packages in various dists. Still a 
> > caveat emptor, but far, far easier to deal with.
> 
> Is this an example of what you mean?
> 
>   /usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found
> (required by /usr/sbin/sendmail)
> 
> After `apt-get' upgraded sendmail to 8.12.6, this error appeared.
> As I recall from another Debian list, the response from whoever
> compiled this version was something like "Oops, stuff happens
> in the testing distro" but, a month later, there's still no working
> replacement.  How does one go about fixing this kind of problem?
> 
> Andris
> 
> 
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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Dale Amon
Perhaps what I'm suggesting is an idea for the package people
to consider. Instead of Required: being univalued, perhaps 
have a minimum useable version required and a preferred version.
Default to the prefered but give the user via dselect and
apt a means of pinning to the "minimum" instead. 

That would let me selectively pull in a number of security tools
I began using on a sid dist that I sorely miss in woody. I 
simply don't have time to repackage them all and be my own
package maintainer. I doubt any of them has *real* dependencies
such that they would not work perfectly well with the woody
libs.


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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-12-01 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 06:25:47PM -0800, Andris Kalnozols wrote:
> Is this an example of what you mean?
> 
>   /usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found
> (required by /usr/sbin/sendmail)
> 
> After `apt-get' upgraded sendmail to 8.12.6, this error appeared.
> As I recall from another Debian list, the response from whoever
> compiled this version was something like "Oops, stuff happens
> in the testing distro" but, a month later, there's still no working
> replacement.  How does one go about fixing this kind of problem?
> 
> Andris

More basic than that. You will find packages that refuse to build without
pulling in a new libc6 they don't even need. This comes from a dependency
for say:

>= libc6_2.2.5-13

when there is actually no reason that anything after

>= libc6_2.2.1-1

would have worked. Perhaps there are good reasons for requiring the absolute
latest revision. Usually there are not unless you really do intend to 
upgrade a large chunk of your system. 

The case you are describing is far worse. It's broken period, not
just an annoyance and the cause of loads of unnecessary package
dependency caused upgrades.


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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-30 Thread Andris Kalnozols
> Perhaps I did not state this clearly enough. The majority of cases
> I run across are caused by an entirely unnecessary dependancy to
> a version of libc6 which isn't in any way required for the package
> in question. Yes, one can fix this manually. Every time, for every
> package. Which naturally means you do it once or twice and then
> say "oh forget it" and wait a year or whatever until the next stable
> upgrade.
> 
> Package Dependencies on lib versions (or any other entity for that
> matter)  really are several entirely different things:
> 
>   * the API changed and my application will fail with any
> lib version prior to this one because it relies on
> the changes.
> 
>   * bug fixes went into this lib version without which my
> app will crash.
> 
>   * bug fixes went into this version which I specifically
> want/prefer for my application, but it won't crash
> on the older one.
> 
>   * I just like to use the latest set of lib version digits
> for no particular reason.
> 
> I suspect the majority of package version dependencies fall into
> the last category.
> 
> If this was dealt with, there would be a much higher level of
> interoperability between packages in various dists. Still a 
> caveat emptor, but far, far easier to deal with.

Is this an example of what you mean?

  /usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found
  (required by /usr/sbin/sendmail)

After `apt-get' upgraded sendmail to 8.12.6, this error appeared.
As I recall from another Debian list, the response from whoever
compiled this version was something like "Oops, stuff happens
in the testing distro" but, a month later, there's still no working
replacement.  How does one go about fixing this kind of problem?

Andris



Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-30 Thread Andris Kalnozols
> Perhaps I did not state this clearly enough. The majority of cases
> I run across are caused by an entirely unnecessary dependancy to
> a version of libc6 which isn't in any way required for the package
> in question. Yes, one can fix this manually. Every time, for every
> package. Which naturally means you do it once or twice and then
> say "oh forget it" and wait a year or whatever until the next stable
> upgrade.
> 
> Package Dependencies on lib versions (or any other entity for that
> matter)  really are several entirely different things:
> 
>   * the API changed and my application will fail with any
> lib version prior to this one because it relies on
> the changes.
> 
>   * bug fixes went into this lib version without which my
> app will crash.
> 
>   * bug fixes went into this version which I specifically
> want/prefer for my application, but it won't crash
> on the older one.
> 
>   * I just like to use the latest set of lib version digits
> for no particular reason.
> 
> I suspect the majority of package version dependencies fall into
> the last category.
> 
> If this was dealt with, there would be a much higher level of
> interoperability between packages in various dists. Still a 
> caveat emptor, but far, far easier to deal with.

Is this an example of what you mean?

  /usr/sbin/sendmail: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found
  (required by /usr/sbin/sendmail)

After `apt-get' upgraded sendmail to 8.12.6, this error appeared.
As I recall from another Debian list, the response from whoever
compiled this version was something like "Oops, stuff happens
in the testing distro" but, a month later, there's still no working
replacement.  How does one go about fixing this kind of problem?

Andris


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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-30 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Adrian Phillips wrote:
> > "Dale" == Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dale> I've a general issue along those lines. There are often
> Dale> tools I'd like to install but most packages specify >= a
> Dale> version of libc6 even when the package would basically run
> Dale> with any libc that ever existed.
> 
> I would have thought a reasonable number of packages can be upgraded
> by grabbing the source, patching using the Debian diff and
> dpkg-buildpackage'ing. I've done this on a small number of packages
> without problems. Some manualy fixing of the diff maybe necessary
> obviously if there are bug fix patches included that aren't required
> for the newer version.
> 
> I was under the impression that if people wished to have newer
> "stable" versions then it is up to individuals to handle this
> themselves. It is not something that the Debian project can be
> expected to maintain.

Perhaps I did not state this clearly enough. The majority of cases
I run across are caused by an entirely unnecessary dependancy to
a version of libc6 which isn't in any way required for the package
in question. Yes, one can fix this manually. Every time, for every
package. Which naturally means you do it once or twice and then
say "oh forget it" and wait a year or whatever until the next stable
upgrade.

Package Dependencies on lib versions (or any other entity for that
matter)  really are several entirely different things:

* the API changed and my application will fail with any
  lib version prior to this one because it relies on
  the changes.

* bug fixes went into this lib version without which my
  app will crash.

* bug fixes went into this version which I specifically
  want/prefer for my application, but it won't crash
  on the older one.

* I just like to use the latest set of lib version digits
  for no particular reason.

I suspect the majority of package version dependencies fall into
the last category.

If this was dealt with, there would be a much higher level of
interoperability between packages in various dists. Still a 
caveat emptor, but far, far easier to deal with.





Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-30 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Adrian Phillips wrote:
> > "Dale" == Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dale> I've a general issue along those lines. There are often
> Dale> tools I'd like to install but most packages specify >= a
> Dale> version of libc6 even when the package would basically run
> Dale> with any libc that ever existed.
> 
> I would have thought a reasonable number of packages can be upgraded
> by grabbing the source, patching using the Debian diff and
> dpkg-buildpackage'ing. I've done this on a small number of packages
> without problems. Some manualy fixing of the diff maybe necessary
> obviously if there are bug fix patches included that aren't required
> for the newer version.
> 
> I was under the impression that if people wished to have newer
> "stable" versions then it is up to individuals to handle this
> themselves. It is not something that the Debian project can be
> expected to maintain.

Perhaps I did not state this clearly enough. The majority of cases
I run across are caused by an entirely unnecessary dependancy to
a version of libc6 which isn't in any way required for the package
in question. Yes, one can fix this manually. Every time, for every
package. Which naturally means you do it once or twice and then
say "oh forget it" and wait a year or whatever until the next stable
upgrade.

Package Dependencies on lib versions (or any other entity for that
matter)  really are several entirely different things:

* the API changed and my application will fail with any
  lib version prior to this one because it relies on
  the changes.

* bug fixes went into this lib version without which my
  app will crash.

* bug fixes went into this version which I specifically
  want/prefer for my application, but it won't crash
  on the older one.

* I just like to use the latest set of lib version digits
  for no particular reason.

I suspect the majority of package version dependencies fall into
the last category.

If this was dealt with, there would be a much higher level of
interoperability between packages in various dists. Still a 
caveat emptor, but far, far easier to deal with.




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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-30 Thread Adrian Phillips
> "Dale" == Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Dale> I've a general issue along those lines. There are often
Dale> tools I'd like to install but most packages specify >= a
Dale> version of libc6 even when the package would basically run
Dale> with any libc that ever existed.

Dale> In one sense this is a more general issue, but it's also a
Dale> security one in that it prevents using adding important
Dale> tools to an older dist on a one off basis, even if that tool
Dale> would give a substantial increase in security.

I would have thought a reasonable number of packages can be upgraded
by grabbing the source, patching using the Debian diff and
dpkg-buildpackage'ing. I've done this on a small number of packages
without problems. Some manualy fixing of the diff maybe necessary
obviously if there are bug fix patches included that aren't required
for the newer version.

I was under the impression that if people wished to have newer
"stable" versions then it is up to individuals to handle this
themselves. It is not something that the Debian project can be
expected to maintain.

Sincerely,

Adrian Phillips

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-30 Thread Adrian Phillips
> "Dale" == Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Dale> I've a general issue along those lines. There are often
Dale> tools I'd like to install but most packages specify >= a
Dale> version of libc6 even when the package would basically run
Dale> with any libc that ever existed.

Dale> In one sense this is a more general issue, but it's also a
Dale> security one in that it prevents using adding important
Dale> tools to an older dist on a one off basis, even if that tool
Dale> would give a substantial increase in security.

I would have thought a reasonable number of packages can be upgraded
by grabbing the source, patching using the Debian diff and
dpkg-buildpackage'ing. I've done this on a small number of packages
without problems. Some manualy fixing of the diff maybe necessary
obviously if there are bug fix patches included that aren't required
for the newer version.

I was under the impression that if people wished to have newer
"stable" versions then it is up to individuals to handle this
themselves. It is not something that the Debian project can be
expected to maintain.

Sincerely,

Adrian Phillips

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Alfonso Federico Simó

Here it goes!
I attach the snort.conf, but I only changed this part:



--
#=
# Include all relevant rulesets here
#
# shellcode, policy, info, backdoor, and virus rulesets are
# disabled by default.  These require tuning and maintance.
# Please read the included specific file for more information.
#=

include bad-traffic.rules
include exploit.rules
include scan.rules
include finger.rules
include ftp.rules
include telnet.rules
include smtp.rules
include rpc.rules
include rservices.rules
include dos.rules
include ddos.rules
include dns.rules
include tftp.rules
include web-cgi.rules
include web-coldfusion.rules
include web-frontpage.rules
include web-iis.rules
include web-misc.rules
include web-attacks.rules
include sql.rules
include x11.rules
include icmp.rules   
include netbios.rules
include misc.rules 
include attack-responses.rules

include backdoor.rules
# include shellcode.rules
include policy.rules
include porn.rules
include info.rules
# include icmp-info.rules
include virus.rules 
include local.rules

--

I hope it helps!



Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Please do send the file.  I have put 1.9 in manaully  its rocking!



#--
#   http://www.snort.org Snort 1.8.1 Ruleset
# Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#--
# NOTE:This ruleset only works for 1.8.0 and later
#--
# $Id: snort.conf,v 1.77.2.1 2002/01/11 00:17:35 roesch Exp $
#
###
# This file contains a sample snort configuration. 
# You can take the following steps to create your 
# own custom configuration:
#
#  1) Set the network variables for your network
#  2) Configure preprocessors
#  3) Configure output plugins
#  4) Customize your rule set
#
###
# Step #1: Set the network variables:
#
# You must change the following variables to reflect
# your local network. The variable is currently 
# setup for an RFC 1918 address space.
#
# You can specify it explicitly as: 
#
# var HOME_NET 10.1.1.0/24
#
# or use global variable $_ADDRESS 
# which will be always initialized to IP address and 
# netmask of the network interface which you run
# snort at.
#
# var HOME_NET $eth0_ADDRESS
#
# You can specify lists of IP addresses for HOME_NET
# by separating the IPs with commas like this:
#
# var HOME_NET [10.1.1.0/24,192.168.1.0/24]
#
# MAKE SURE YOU DON'T PLACE ANY SPACES IN YOUR LIST!
#
# or you can specify the variable to be any IP address
# like this:

var HOME_NET any

# Set up the external network addresses as well.  
# A good start may be "any"

var EXTERNAL_NET any

# Set up your SMTP servers, or simply configure them 
# to HOME_NET 

var SMTP $HOME_NET

# Set up your web servers, or simply configure them 
# to HOME_NET

var HTTP_SERVERS $HOME_NET

# Set up your sql servers, or simply configure them
# to HOME_NET

var SQL_SERVERS $HOME_NET
 
# Define the addresses of DNS servers and other hosts 
# if you want to ignore portscan false alarms from them...

var DNS_SERVERS $HOME_NET

###
# Step #2: Configure preprocessors
#
# General configuration for preprocessors is of 
# the form
# preprocessor : 

# frag2: IP defragmentation support
# ---
# This preprocessor performs IP defragmentation.  This plugin will also detect
# people launching fragmentation attacks (usually DoS) against hosts.  No
# arguments loads the default configuration of the preprocessor, which is a 
# 60 second timeout and a 4MB fragment buffer. 

# The following (comma delimited) options are available for frag2
#timeout [seconds] - sets the number of [seconds] than an unfinished 
#fragment will be kept around waiting for completion,
#if this time expires the fragment will be flushed
#memcap [bytes] - limit frag2 memory usage to [bytes] bytes

preprocessor frag2

# stream4: stateful inspection/stream reassembly for Snort
#--
# Use in concert with the -z [all|est] command line switch to defeat 
# stick/snot against TCP rules.  Also performs full TCP stream 
# reassembly, stateful inspection of TCP streams, etc.  Can statefully
# detect various portscan types, fingerprinting, ECN, etc.

# stateful inspection directive
# no arguments loads the defaults (timeout 30, memcap 8MB)
# options (options are comma delimited):
#   detect_scans - stream4 will detect stealth portscans and generate alerts
#  when it sees them when this option is set
#   detect

Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Hanasaki JiJi

Please do send the file.  I have put 1.9 in manaully  its rocking!

Alfonso Federico Simó wrote:



Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log


Any thoughts?


Hi!
Now I *have* my snort reporting scans in the portscan.log in Version 
1.8.4-beta1 (Build 91). Because of this message, I started playing with 
my snort.conf. When I uncommented the rules at the end of the snort.conf 
(except shellcodes.rules), snort started reporting in that file.

If you wish, I can send you my snort.conf.
Bye (and I sorry for my english, it is not good enough) :-)
Alfonso






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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Alfonso Federico Simó



Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log


Any thoughts?


Hi!
Now I *have* my snort reporting scans in the portscan.log in Version 
1.8.4-beta1 (Build 91). Because of this message, I started playing with 
my snort.conf. When I uncommented the rules at the end of the snort.conf 
(except shellcodes.rules), snort started reporting in that file.

If you wish, I can send you my snort.conf.
Bye (and I sorry for my english, it is not good enough) :-)
Alfonso






Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 06:36:16PM +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:
> What about considering outdated security tools as hazardous to the
> system's security? Taking this point of view, why not distributing
> updated versions via debian-security?
> 

I've a general issue along those lines. There are often tools I'd like
to install but most packages specify >= a version of libc6 even when
the package would basically run with any libc that ever existed. 

In one sense this is a more general issue, but it's also a security
one in that it prevents using adding important tools to an older
dist on a one off basis, even if that tool would give a substantial
increase in security.

You can force things, but then you've hassles for life every time
you use apt and dselect.



Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Marcel Weber

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Hash: SHA1

Hanasaki JiJi wrote:
| My driver is a tulip for a linksys card
|
| The snort list told me that the version in woody is known to be broken
| so I downloaded snort 1.9 and manually installed it.. yuk!
|
| FYI: when run from the command line, the BETA in woody was saying
| something about exhausting trees.
|
| REQUEST! can 1.9 be put in woody?  can 2.0 be put in when it comes out?
|

My driver was a 8139too.

As SNORT is a security related tool (active security) and the threats
are changing from time to time the signatures have to be up to date as
well as the tool itself.

What about considering outdated security tools as hazardous to the
system's security? Taking this point of view, why not distributing
updated versions via debian-security?

Marcel


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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Hanasaki JiJi

My driver is a tulip for a linksys card

The snort list told me that the version in woody is known to be broken 
so I downloaded snort 1.9 and manually installed it.. yuk!


FYI: when run from the command line, the BETA in woody was saying 
something about exhausting trees.


REQUEST! can 1.9 be put in woody?  can 2.0 be put in when it comes out?

Simon Kirby wrote:

On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:01:26PM +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:



-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hanasaki JiJi schrieb:
| 1.8.4-Beta1 Build 91
|
| It also seems to be dying without any reports to syslog
|


This also happens to my setup. I'm restarting snort every night now.



This seems really weird, but try switching to the e100 driver if you are
currently using eepro100.  It may just be timing related, but it seemed
to make a difference.  (We're using tg3 now and it's still fine.)

Simon-

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Alfonso Federico Simó
Here it goes!
I attach the snort.conf, but I only changed this part:



--
#=
# Include all relevant rulesets here
#
# shellcode, policy, info, backdoor, and virus rulesets are
# disabled by default.  These require tuning and maintance.
# Please read the included specific file for more information.
#=

include bad-traffic.rules
include exploit.rules
include scan.rules
include finger.rules
include ftp.rules
include telnet.rules
include smtp.rules
include rpc.rules
include rservices.rules
include dos.rules
include ddos.rules
include dns.rules
include tftp.rules
include web-cgi.rules
include web-coldfusion.rules
include web-frontpage.rules
include web-iis.rules
include web-misc.rules
include web-attacks.rules
include sql.rules
include x11.rules
include icmp.rules   
include netbios.rules
include misc.rules 
include attack-responses.rules
include backdoor.rules
# include shellcode.rules
include policy.rules
include porn.rules
include info.rules
# include icmp-info.rules
include virus.rules 
include local.rules
--

I hope it helps!



Hanasaki JiJi wrote:

Please do send the file.  I have put 1.9 in manaully  its rocking!




#--
#   http://www.snort.org Snort 1.8.1 Ruleset
# Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#--
# NOTE:This ruleset only works for 1.8.0 and later
#--
# $Id: snort.conf,v 1.77.2.1 2002/01/11 00:17:35 roesch Exp $
#
###
# This file contains a sample snort configuration. 
# You can take the following steps to create your 
# own custom configuration:
#
#  1) Set the network variables for your network
#  2) Configure preprocessors
#  3) Configure output plugins
#  4) Customize your rule set
#
###
# Step #1: Set the network variables:
#
# You must change the following variables to reflect
# your local network. The variable is currently 
# setup for an RFC 1918 address space.
#
# You can specify it explicitly as: 
#
# var HOME_NET 10.1.1.0/24
#
# or use global variable $_ADDRESS 
# which will be always initialized to IP address and 
# netmask of the network interface which you run
# snort at.
#
# var HOME_NET $eth0_ADDRESS
#
# You can specify lists of IP addresses for HOME_NET
# by separating the IPs with commas like this:
#
# var HOME_NET [10.1.1.0/24,192.168.1.0/24]
#
# MAKE SURE YOU DON'T PLACE ANY SPACES IN YOUR LIST!
#
# or you can specify the variable to be any IP address
# like this:

var HOME_NET any

# Set up the external network addresses as well.  
# A good start may be "any"

var EXTERNAL_NET any

# Set up your SMTP servers, or simply configure them 
# to HOME_NET 

var SMTP $HOME_NET

# Set up your web servers, or simply configure them 
# to HOME_NET

var HTTP_SERVERS $HOME_NET

# Set up your sql servers, or simply configure them
# to HOME_NET

var SQL_SERVERS $HOME_NET
 
# Define the addresses of DNS servers and other hosts 
# if you want to ignore portscan false alarms from them...

var DNS_SERVERS $HOME_NET

###
# Step #2: Configure preprocessors
#
# General configuration for preprocessors is of 
# the form
# preprocessor : 

# frag2: IP defragmentation support
# ---
# This preprocessor performs IP defragmentation.  This plugin will also detect
# people launching fragmentation attacks (usually DoS) against hosts.  No
# arguments loads the default configuration of the preprocessor, which is a 
# 60 second timeout and a 4MB fragment buffer. 

# The following (comma delimited) options are available for frag2
#timeout [seconds] - sets the number of [seconds] than an unfinished 
#fragment will be kept around waiting for completion,
#if this time expires the fragment will be flushed
#memcap [bytes] - limit frag2 memory usage to [bytes] bytes

preprocessor frag2

# stream4: stateful inspection/stream reassembly for Snort
#--
# Use in concert with the -z [all|est] command line switch to defeat 
# stick/snot against TCP rules.  Also performs full TCP stream 
# reassembly, stateful inspection of TCP streams, etc.  Can statefully
# detect various portscan types, fingerprinting, ECN, etc.

# stateful inspection directive
# no arguments loads the defaults (timeout 30, memcap 8MB)
# options (options are comma delimited):
#   detect_scans - stream4 will detect stealth portscans and generate alerts
#  when it sees them when this option is set
#   detect_st

Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Please do send the file.  I have put 1.9 in manaully  its rocking!

Alfonso Federico Simó wrote:



Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log


Any thoughts?


Hi!
Now I *have* my snort reporting scans in the portscan.log in Version 
1.8.4-beta1 (Build 91). Because of this message, I started playing with 
my snort.conf. When I uncommented the rules at the end of the snort.conf 
(except shellcodes.rules), snort started reporting in that file.
If you wish, I can send you my snort.conf.
Bye (and I sorry for my english, it is not good enough) :-)
Alfonso





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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Alfonso Federico Simó


Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log


Any thoughts?


Hi!
Now I *have* my snort reporting scans in the portscan.log in Version 
1.8.4-beta1 (Build 91). Because of this message, I started playing with 
my snort.conf. When I uncommented the rules at the end of the snort.conf 
(except shellcodes.rules), snort started reporting in that file.
If you wish, I can send you my snort.conf.
Bye (and I sorry for my english, it is not good enough) :-)
Alfonso





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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Simon Kirby
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:01:26PM +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hanasaki JiJi schrieb:
> | 1.8.4-Beta1 Build 91
> |
> | It also seems to be dying without any reports to syslog
> |
> 
> 
> This also happens to my setup. I'm restarting snort every night now.

This seems really weird, but try switching to the e100 driver if you are
currently using eepro100.  It may just be timing related, but it seemed
to make a difference.  (We're using tg3 now and it's still fine.)

Simon-

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 06:36:16PM +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:
> What about considering outdated security tools as hazardous to the
> system's security? Taking this point of view, why not distributing
> updated versions via debian-security?
> 

I've a general issue along those lines. There are often tools I'd like
to install but most packages specify >= a version of libc6 even when
the package would basically run with any libc that ever existed. 

In one sense this is a more general issue, but it's also a security
one in that it prevents using adding important tools to an older
dist on a one off basis, even if that tool would give a substantial
increase in security.

You can force things, but then you've hassles for life every time
you use apt and dselect.


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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Marcel Weber
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Hash: SHA1

Hanasaki JiJi wrote:
| My driver is a tulip for a linksys card
|
| The snort list told me that the version in woody is known to be broken
| so I downloaded snort 1.9 and manually installed it.. yuk!
|
| FYI: when run from the command line, the BETA in woody was saying
| something about exhausting trees.
|
| REQUEST! can 1.9 be put in woody?  can 2.0 be put in when it comes out?
|

My driver was a 8139too.

As SNORT is a security related tool (active security) and the threats
are changing from time to time the signatures have to be up to date as
well as the tool itself.

What about considering outdated security tools as hazardous to the
system's security? Taking this point of view, why not distributing
updated versions via debian-security?

Marcel


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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
My driver is a tulip for a linksys card

The snort list told me that the version in woody is known to be broken 
so I downloaded snort 1.9 and manually installed it.. yuk!

FYI: when run from the command line, the BETA in woody was saying 
something about exhausting trees.

REQUEST! can 1.9 be put in woody?  can 2.0 be put in when it comes out?

Simon Kirby wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:01:26PM +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:



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Hanasaki JiJi schrieb:
| 1.8.4-Beta1 Build 91
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This also happens to my setup. I'm restarting snort every night now.



This seems really weird, but try switching to the e100 driver if you are
currently using eepro100.  It may just be timing related, but it seemed
to make a difference.  (We're using tg3 now and it's still fine.)

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Simon Kirby
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:01:26PM +0100, Marcel Weber wrote:

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> 
> This also happens to my setup. I'm restarting snort every night now.

This seems really weird, but try switching to the e100 driver if you are
currently using eepro100.  It may just be timing related, but it seemed
to make a difference.  (We're using tg3 now and it's still fine.)

Simon-

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Marcel Weber

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This also happens to my setup. I'm restarting snort every night now.

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Marcel Weber
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This also happens to my setup. I'm restarting snort every night now.

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread Hanasaki JiJi

1.8.4-Beta1 Build 91

It also seems to be dying without any reports to syslog

J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:19:24 -0600, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log



Which version? AFAIK the version in woody still has wrong log rotation
causing it to log to a file descriptor corresponding to an already deleted
file (#158042).

HTH,
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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-29 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:19:24 -0600, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:
> Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log

Which version? AFAIK the version in woody still has wrong log rotation
causing it to log to a file descriptor corresponding to an already deleted
file (#158042).

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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-28 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
1.8.4-Beta1 Build 91

It also seems to be dying without any reports to syslog

J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:19:24 -0600, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:


Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log



Which version? AFAIK the version in woody still has wrong log rotation
causing it to log to a file descriptor corresponding to an already deleted
file (#158042).

HTH,
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Re: SNORT not adding entries to snort/portscan ???

2002-11-28 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:19:24 -0600, Hanasaki JiJi wrote:
> Snort is reporting scans in the alert.log but not the portscan.log

Which version? AFAIK the version in woody still has wrong log rotation
causing it to log to a file descriptor corresponding to an already deleted
file (#158042).

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Re: snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388

2002-11-24 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 at 12:30:25PM +0100, Tore Nilsson wrote:
> Thanks. Well, I'm not using FTP on the box, so all traffic directed at
> that port is dropped by IPTables. Actually, these messages are from my
> system log (and it was IPTables who logged it there). But, do you think it
> was an attempt to break in? I got 4-5 of each of those 2. And 1 of the
> "WARNING: Fraglist" message...


Most likely a random port scan.  I get them all the time.  Since port
scans are technically "legal" in the US (there is case law to back this,
look on google) there is not much you can do about it

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Re: snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388

2002-11-24 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 at 12:30:25PM +0100, Tore Nilsson wrote:
> Thanks. Well, I'm not using FTP on the box, so all traffic directed at
> that port is dropped by IPTables. Actually, these messages are from my
> system log (and it was IPTables who logged it there). But, do you think it
> was an attempt to break in? I got 4-5 of each of those 2. And 1 of the
> "WARNING: Fraglist" message...


Most likely a random port scan.  I get them all the time.  Since port
scans are technically "legal" in the US (there is case law to back this,
look on google) there is not much you can do about it

ttyl

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Re: snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388

2002-11-24 Thread Tore Nilsson
Thanks. Well, I'm not using FTP on the box, so all traffic directed at
that port is dropped by IPTables. Actually, these messages are from my
system log (and it was IPTables who logged it there). But, do you think it
was an attempt to break in? I got 4-5 of each of those 2. And 1 of the
"WARNING: Fraglist" message...

//Tore Nilsson

>On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 at 02:11:00PM +0100, Tore Nilsson wrote:
>> Hello!
>Greets.
>> Got this message sent to me by email from logcheck:
>> snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388
>Not a clue...sorry.
>
>> I also got this:
>> Nov 22 16:39:32 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
>> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=200.214.189.168
>> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=44 ID=15141 DF PROTO=TCP
>> SPT=41134 DPT=21 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
>Someone from 200.214.189.168 tried to connect (SYN) to your machine on
>port 21 (FTP-Control) suggesting a TCP/IP Window size of 5 kb.  It is
>up to the administrator to decide if this is acceptable activity.
>
>
>> Nov 23 10:48:13 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
>> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=80.143.237.209
>> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=110 ID=13953 DF PROTO=TCP
>> SPT=3000 DPT=21 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
>Same, except a different IP and a window size suggestion of 32 kb
>
>
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Re: snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388

2002-11-24 Thread Tore Nilsson
Thanks. Well, I'm not using FTP on the box, so all traffic directed at
that port is dropped by IPTables. Actually, these messages are from my
system log (and it was IPTables who logged it there). But, do you think it
was an attempt to break in? I got 4-5 of each of those 2. And 1 of the
"WARNING: Fraglist" message...

//Tore Nilsson

>On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 at 02:11:00PM +0100, Tore Nilsson wrote:
>> Hello!
>Greets.
>> Got this message sent to me by email from logcheck:
>> snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388
>Not a clue...sorry.
>
>> I also got this:
>> Nov 22 16:39:32 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
>> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=200.214.189.168
>> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=44 ID=15141 DF PROTO=TCP
>> SPT=41134 DPT=21 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
>Someone from 200.214.189.168 tried to connect (SYN) to your machine on
>port 21 (FTP-Control) suggesting a TCP/IP Window size of 5 kb.  It is
>up to the administrator to decide if this is acceptable activity.
>
>
>> Nov 23 10:48:13 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
>> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=80.143.237.209
>> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=110 ID=13953 DF PROTO=TCP
>> SPT=3000 DPT=21 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
>Same, except a different IP and a window size suggestion of 32 kb
>
>
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Re: snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388

2002-11-23 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 at 02:11:00PM +0100, Tore Nilsson wrote:
> Hello!
Greets.
> Got this message sent to me by email from logcheck:
> snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388
Not a clue...sorry.

> I also got this:
> Nov 22 16:39:32 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=200.214.189.168
> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=44 ID=15141 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=41134 DPT=21 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Someone from 200.214.189.168 tried to connect (SYN) to your machine on
port 21 (FTP-Control) suggesting a TCP/IP Window size of 5 kb.  It is
up to the administrator to decide if this is acceptable activity.


> Nov 23 10:48:13 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=80.143.237.209
> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=110 ID=13953 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=3000 DPT=21 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Same, except a different IP and a window size suggestion of 32 kb


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Re: snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388

2002-11-23 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 at 02:11:00PM +0100, Tore Nilsson wrote:
> Hello!
Greets.
> Got this message sent to me by email from logcheck:
> snort: WARNING: Bad insert in fraglist for FragTracker 0x8511388
Not a clue...sorry.

> I also got this:
> Nov 22 16:39:32 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=200.214.189.168
> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=44 ID=15141 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=41134 DPT=21 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Someone from 200.214.189.168 tried to connect (SYN) to your machine on
port 21 (FTP-Control) suggesting a TCP/IP Window size of 5 kb.  It is
up to the administrator to decide if this is acceptable activity.


> Nov 23 10:48:13 otaku kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:02:e3:18:0a:7a:00:04:c1:3a:9e:42:08:00 SRC=80.143.237.209
> DST=213.114.36.73 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=110 ID=13953 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=3000 DPT=21 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Same, except a different IP and a window size suggestion of 32 kb


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Re: snort error starting

2002-07-20 Thread Jeff
Phillip Hofmeister, 2002-Jul-19 15:12 -0400:
> This looks like a hack job...
> 
> if ls /var/run/snort_*pid >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
>   sleep 3
>   ps cax \
> | grep '/usr/sbin/snort' \
> | awk '{ print $1 }' \
> | xargs --no-run-if-empty kill -9 >/dev/null
>   rm -f /var/run/snort_*.pid
> fi
> echo "."
> ;;
> 
> they should have used a -e file test...let me write a patch and send it to 
> you...this should help diagnose the problem...
> 
> Apply it with 'cat snort.patch | patch -p1'.  Run your init and let me know 
> after which 'test' the error occurs...

I applied your patch:

# cat snort.patch | patch -p1
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- snort.orig Fri Jul 19 15:05:33 2002
|+++ snort  Fri Jul 19 15:06:39 2002
--
File to patch: ./snort
patching file ./snort

# ./snort start
./snort: var: command not found


Did I do something wrong applying the patch?  

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Re: snort error starting

2002-07-20 Thread Jeff
InfoEmergencias - Luis Gómez, 2002-Jul-19 19:55 +0200:
> El vie, 19-07-2002 a las 19:53, Phillip Hofmeister escribió:
> > On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > > # /etc/init.d/snort start
> > > /etc/init.d/snort: var: command not found
> > > 
> > Looks like a bug in the init script.  If I had Snort/woody I would look at 
> > it.
> > Someone can probably make the changes, make a patch and file a bug with the 
> > patch flag set...
> 
> I have 3 occurrences for "var" in mi /etc/init.d/snort :
> adelita:~# grep "var" /etc/init.d/snort
>   -l /var/log/snort \
>   if ls /var/run/snort_*pid >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
> rm -f /var/run/snort_*.pid
> Probably in the second or in the third, you got a missing slash, I mean,
> you have "var" instead of "/var" . I am attaching this script as of
> snort 1.8.2 (build 86) in Woody.

This was the first thing I checked and I have exactly what your grep
shows. 

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Re: snort error starting

2002-07-19 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
This looks like a hack job...

if ls /var/run/snort_*pid >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
  sleep 3
  ps cax \
| grep '/usr/sbin/snort' \
| awk '{ print $1 }' \
| xargs --no-run-if-empty kill -9 >/dev/null
  rm -f /var/run/snort_*.pid
fi
echo "."
;;

they should have used a -e file test...let me write a patch and send it to 
you...this should help diagnose the problem...

Apply it with 'cat snort.patch | patch -p1'.  Run your init and let me know 
after which 'test' the error occurs...


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--- snort.orig  Fri Jul 19 15:05:33 2002
+++ snort   Fri Jul 19 15:06:39 2002
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
-S "HOME_NET=[$DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET]" \
-h "$DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET" \
-c /etc/snort/snort.conf \
+   echo "test 1"
-l /var/log/snort \
-b \
-d  \
@@ -43,12 +44,14 @@
echo -n "Stopping Network Intrusion Detection System: snort"
/sbin/start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec $DAEMON 
>/dev/null
# If it isn't willing we shoot it!
+   echo "test 2"
if ls /var/run/snort_*pid >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
  sleep 3
  ps cax \
| grep '/usr/sbin/snort' \
| awk '{ print $1 }' \
| xargs --no-run-if-empty kill -9 >/dev/null
+ echo "test 3"
  rm -f /var/run/snort_*.pid
fi
echo "."


Re: snort error starting

2002-07-19 Thread InfoEmergencias - Luis Gómez
El vie, 19-07-2002 a las 19:53, Phillip Hofmeister escribió:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > # /etc/init.d/snort start
> > /etc/init.d/snort: var: command not found
> > 
> Looks like a bug in the init script.  If I had Snort/woody I would look at it.
> Someone can probably make the changes, make a patch and file a bug with the 
> patch flag set...

I have 3 occurrences for "var" in mi /etc/init.d/snort :
adelita:~# grep "var" /etc/init.d/snort
-l /var/log/snort \
if ls /var/run/snort_*pid >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
  rm -f /var/run/snort_*.pid
Probably in the second or in the third, you got a missing slash, I mean,
you have "var" instead of "/var" . I am attaching this script as of
snort 1.8.2 (build 86) in Woody.

Regards

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#!/bin/sh -e

test $DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG && set -v -x

test -f /usr/sbin/snort || exit 0

DAEMON=/usr/sbin/snort
CONFIG=/etc/snort/snort.debian.conf

test -f $CONFIG && . $CONFIG

test -z "$DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET" && DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET="192.168.0.0/16"

# to find the lib files
cd /etc/snort

case "$1" in
  start)
	test "$DEBIAN_SNORT_STARTUP" = "dialup" && exit 0
	test "$DEBIAN_SNORT_STARTUP" = "manual" && \
		echo $0 | grep -q 'S[0-9]' && exit 0
	echo -n "Starting Network Intrusion Detection System: snort"
	set +e
	/sbin/start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $DAEMON -- \
		-D \
		-S "HOME_NET=[$DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET]" \
		-h "$DEBIAN_SNORT_HOME_NET" \
		-c /etc/snort/snort.conf \
		-l /var/log/snort \
		-b \
		-d  \
		-u snort \
		-g snort \
		$DEBIAN_SNORT_OPTIONS >/dev/null
	case "$?" in
	  0) echo "." ;;
	  1) echo "...already running." ;;
	  2) echo "...failed." ;;
	esac
	set -e
	;;
  stop)
	echo -n "Stopping Network Intrusion Detection System: snort"
   	/sbin/start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
	# If it isn't willing we shoot it!
	if ls /var/run/snort_*pid >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
	  sleep 3
	  ps cax \
	  	| grep '/usr/sbin/snort' \
		| awk '{ print $1 }' \
	  	| xargs --no-run-if-empty kill -9 >/dev/null
	  rm -f /var/run/snort_*.pid
	fi
   	echo "."
	;;
  restart|force-restart|reload|force-reload)
	/etc/init.d/snort stop 
	# stop will take care that the thing is really dead
	/etc/init.d/snort start
   	;;
  *)
	echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/snort start|stop|restart"
	exit 1
   	;;
esac
exit 0


Re: snort error starting

2002-07-19 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> # /etc/init.d/snort start
> /etc/init.d/snort: var: command not found
> 
Looks like a bug in the init script.  If I had Snort/woody I would look at it.
Someone can probably make the changes, make a patch and file a bug with the 
patch flag set...

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-16 Thread dafr
--- Javier Fernández-Sanguino_Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:27:53AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> > > Jeff,
> > > 
> > > I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort,
> until I
> > > restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I
> missed
> > > it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> > > 
> > > There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file
> that
> > > you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually
> activate
> > > the DNS filter.
> > > 
> 
>   Since this is a common issue, why not file a wishlist bug against
> the snort package so that it helps the user do this upon
> installation?
> IIRC it currently does not do it.
> 
>   Javi


Yes, the installation tools might be able to be improved upon, but I'd
rather see more obvious documentation, or just a banner page at install
that says "here are the steps to..." at this point. The wishlist may be
appropriate for accomplishing this, but this request was the first one
that I've seen on this list, so I'm not sure how common the problem
really is.

I have to admit that I didn't go digging too hard for documentation and
went straight to the configuration files and figured it out for myself.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-16 Thread dafr

--- Javier Fernández-Sanguino_Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:27:53AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> > > Jeff,
> > > 
> > > I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort,
> until I
> > > restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I
> missed
> > > it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> > > 
> > > There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file
> that
> > > you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually
> activate
> > > the DNS filter.
> > > 
> 
>   Since this is a common issue, why not file a wishlist bug against
> the snort package so that it helps the user do this upon
> installation?
> IIRC it currently does not do it.
> 
>   Javi


Yes, the installation tools might be able to be improved upon, but I'd
rather see more obvious documentation, or just a banner page at install
that says "here are the steps to..." at this point. The wishlist may be
appropriate for accomplishing this, but this request was the first one
that I've seen on this list, so I'm not sure how common the problem
really is.

I have to admit that I didn't go digging too hard for documentation and
went straight to the configuration files and figured it out for myself.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:27:53AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> > Jeff,
> > 
> > I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
> > restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
> > it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> > 
> > There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
> > you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
> > the DNS filter.
> > 

Since this is a common issue, why not file a wishlist bug against
the snort package so that it helps the user do this upon installation?
IIRC it currently does not do it.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-16 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:27:53AM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> > Jeff,
> > 
> > I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
> > restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
> > it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> > 
> > There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
> > you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
> > the DNS filter.
> > 

Since this is a common issue, why not file a wishlist bug against
the snort package so that it helps the user do this upon installation?
IIRC it currently does not do it.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly [closed]

2002-05-15 Thread Jeff
Jeff, 2002-May-06 04:27 -0700:
> dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> > Jeff,
> > 
> > I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
> > restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
> > it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> > 
> > There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
> > you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
> > the DNS filter.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > David
> 
> David,
> 
> Thanks for the pointer.  I found the section and uncommented it
> and then restarted snort.  I'll be watching my logs and let you
> know what I see.

After a couple of weeks with these settings, no more portscans
are being registered by my dns servers.  Thanks for you help
David.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly [closed]

2002-05-15 Thread Jeff

Jeff, 2002-May-06 04:27 -0700:
> dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> > Jeff,
> > 
> > I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
> > restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
> > it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> > 
> > There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
> > you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
> > the DNS filter.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > David
> 
> David,
> 
> Thanks for the pointer.  I found the section and uncommented it
> and then restarted snort.  I'll be watching my logs and let you
> know what I see.

After a couple of weeks with these settings, no more portscans
are being registered by my dns servers.  Thanks for you help
David.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-06 Thread Jeff
dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> Jeff,
> 
> I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
> restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
> it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> 
> There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
> you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
> the DNS filter.
> 
> HTH,
> David

David,

Thanks for the pointer.  I found the section and uncommented it
and then restarted snort.  I'll be watching my logs and let you
know what I see.

thanks,
jc


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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-06 Thread Jeff

dafr, 2002-May-03 10:52 -0700:
> Jeff,
> 
> I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
> restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
> it initially, I could see others doing the same.
> 
> There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
> you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
> the DNS filter.
> 
> HTH,
> David

David,

Thanks for the pointer.  I found the section and uncommented it
and then restarted snort.  I'll be watching my logs and let you
know what I see.

thanks,
jc


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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-03 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Hi Jeff,

Quoting Jeff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> The 192... is a local private network and the next 2 addresses
> are dns servers.  Snort is constantly logging activity to the 1st
> dns server as a portscan, and as I understand it, this config
> entry is supposed to eliminate that.  Is this incorrect?

Please email me offlist about this; (debian-security is not the right place,
the package maintainer address (mine) is).
It's also important to know what version(s) of the package(s) you're talking
about.

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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-03 Thread Robert van der Meulen

Hi Jeff,

Quoting Jeff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> The 192... is a local private network and the next 2 addresses
> are dns servers.  Snort is constantly logging activity to the 1st
> dns server as a portscan, and as I understand it, this config
> entry is supposed to eliminate that.  Is this incorrect?

Please email me offlist about this; (debian-security is not the right place,
the package maintainer address (mine) is).
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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-03 Thread dafr
Jeff,

I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
it initially, I could see others doing the same.

There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
the DNS filter.

HTH,
David

--- Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the following entry in /etc/snort/snort.conf
> 
> var DNS_SERVERS [192.168.0.0/24,216.148.227.68/32,204.127.202.4/32]
> 
> The 192... is a local private network and the next 2 addresses
> are dns servers.  Snort is constantly logging activity to the 1st
> dns server as a portscan, and as I understand it, this config
> entry is supposed to eliminate that.  Is this incorrect?
> 
> thanks,
> jc
> 
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Re: snort not recognizing dns server correctly

2002-05-03 Thread dafr

Jeff,

I had this problem initially as well when I reconfigured snort, until I
restarted the service. Quite obvious in retrospect, but when I missed
it initially, I could see others doing the same.

There is also a section towards the bottom of the snort.conf file that
you _also_ have to unhash, for DNS_SERVERS, IIRC, to actually activate
the DNS filter.

HTH,
David

--- Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the following entry in /etc/snort/snort.conf
> 
> var DNS_SERVERS [192.168.0.0/24,216.148.227.68/32,204.127.202.4/32]
> 
> The 192... is a local private network and the next 2 addresses
> are dns servers.  Snort is constantly logging activity to the 1st
> dns server as a portscan, and as I understand it, this config
> entry is supposed to eliminate that.  Is this incorrect?
> 
> thanks,
> jc
> 
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Re: Snort logging portscans from dns

2002-03-22 Thread Jozef Novikmec
Dňa Pi, 2002-03-22 at 06:58, Jeff napísal:
> Any ideas why Snort is logging portscans from 2 of my providers
> DNS servers?  I see this every day.  Its making only UDP
> connections based on the log:
> 
> Mar 19 13:00:47 myhost snort: spp_portscan: portscan status
> from +216.148.227.68: 6 connections across 1 hosts: TCP(0),
> UDP(6)
> 
> I think this is due to the DNS servers making several connections
> in my firewall/nat gateway in a short period of time.  But I'm
> not sure.

You shoul add this addresses to snort.conf to section var DNS_SERVERS.
One way how to detect portscans is to look for a lot of connection from
one IP address and DNS is service witch a lot of connections.

Add these DNS IP addresses to DNS_SERVERS and snort will stop reporting
portscans.

> 
> thanks,
> jc
> 
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Re: Snort logging portscans from dns

2002-03-22 Thread Jozef Novikmec

Dňa Pi, 2002-03-22 at 06:58, Jeff napísal:
> Any ideas why Snort is logging portscans from 2 of my providers
> DNS servers?  I see this every day.  Its making only UDP
> connections based on the log:
> 
> Mar 19 13:00:47 myhost snort: spp_portscan: portscan status
> from +216.148.227.68: 6 connections across 1 hosts: TCP(0),
> UDP(6)
> 
> I think this is due to the DNS servers making several connections
> in my firewall/nat gateway in a short period of time.  But I'm
> not sure.

You shoul add this addresses to snort.conf to section var DNS_SERVERS.
One way how to detect portscans is to look for a lot of connection from
one IP address and DNS is service witch a lot of connections.

Add these DNS IP addresses to DNS_SERVERS and snort will stop reporting
portscans.

> 
> thanks,
> jc
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Re: snort 1.8 for demarc

2001-08-07 Thread Marco Tassinari
Il 19:22, domenica 5 agosto 2001, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) ha scritto:

> On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 19:41:41 +, Marco Tassinari wrote:
> > /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(gencode.o): In function `pcap_compile':
>
> Any particular reason you're using a local libpcap rather than the libpcap0
> and libpcap-dev Debian packages?
>
> Ray

(yes, I've bison installed)

Oh, damn, you're right! ...dselect... libcap-dev... OK! It works!

Thank you, Marco

PS and what about demarc, all?



Re: snort 1.8 for demarc

2001-08-07 Thread Marco Tassinari

Il 19:22, domenica 5 agosto 2001, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) ha scritto:

> On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 19:41:41 +, Marco Tassinari wrote:
> > /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(gencode.o): In function `pcap_compile':
>
> Any particular reason you're using a local libpcap rather than the libpcap0
> and libpcap-dev Debian packages?
>
> Ray

(yes, I've bison installed)

Oh, damn, you're right! ...dselect... libcap-dev... OK! It works!

Thank you, Marco

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Re: snort 1.8 for demarc

2001-08-06 Thread Mike Renfro
On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 07:41:41PM +, Marco Tassinari wrote:

> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(gencode.o): In function `pcap_compile':
> gencode.o(.text+0x203): undefined reference to `lex_init'
> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(grammar.o): In function `yyparse':
> grammar.o(.text+0x94): undefined reference to `yylex'
> grammar.o(.text+0x9ba): undefined reference to `yylex'

You have bison installed too? Or just flex? I think yylex calls are
frequently references to yacc.

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Re: snort 1.8 for demarc

2001-08-06 Thread Mike Renfro

On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 07:41:41PM +, Marco Tassinari wrote:

> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(gencode.o): In function `pcap_compile':
> gencode.o(.text+0x203): undefined reference to `lex_init'
> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(grammar.o): In function `yyparse':
> grammar.o(.text+0x94): undefined reference to `yylex'
> grammar.o(.text+0x9ba): undefined reference to `yylex'

You have bison installed too? Or just flex? I think yylex calls are
frequently references to yacc.

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Re: snort 1.8 for demarc

2001-08-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 19:41:41 +, Marco Tassinari wrote:
> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(gencode.o): In function `pcap_compile':

Any particular reason you're using a local libpcap rather than the libpcap0
and libpcap-dev Debian packages?

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Re: snort 1.8 for demarc

2001-08-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)

On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 19:41:41 +, Marco Tassinari wrote:
> /usr/local/lib/libpcap.a(gencode.o): In function `pcap_compile':

Any particular reason you're using a local libpcap rather than the libpcap0
and libpcap-dev Debian packages?

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Re: snort 's logs go to /var/log/auth.log for some reason?

2001-07-30 Thread Jamie Heilman
Dmitriy wrote:

> How can I change this?

man snort, note -s option
man syslog.conf

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Re: snort 's logs go to /var/log/auth.log for some reason?

2001-07-30 Thread Jamie Heilman

Dmitriy wrote:

> How can I change this?

man snort, note -s option
man syslog.conf

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Re: snort rules (Was: Attack alert from snort)

2001-07-12 Thread Bart-Jan Vrielink
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Martin Domig wrote:

> As I am using snort I keep getting many warnings in my logfiles which I
> don't know what they mean. For example the following entry:
>
> Jul 11 01:17:46 keeper snort[6079]: IDS266 - CAN-1999-0261 - SMTP Chameleon
> Overflow: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:44772 -> yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy:25
>
> This tells me that someone is doing funny stuff to my mailserver (I keep
> getting those all the time), but I don't know what is causing this entry
> and how "dangerous" this "attack" is. Is there any resource where I can
> search for snort warnings (those IDSxxx codes) and look up more information
> about a single snort rule?

http://www.whitehats.com/IDS/266

All Chameleon alerts I've seen where false positives. Basically any ip
packet directed to TCP port 25 longer than 500 bytes and having the word
help in the first 5 bytes triggers the rule. I don't think it's possible
to tell snort the difference between a false alert and a real intrusion.

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Re: snort rules (Was: Attack alert from snort)

2001-07-12 Thread Bart-Jan Vrielink

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Martin Domig wrote:

> As I am using snort I keep getting many warnings in my logfiles which I
> don't know what they mean. For example the following entry:
>
> Jul 11 01:17:46 keeper snort[6079]: IDS266 - CAN-1999-0261 - SMTP Chameleon
> Overflow: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:44772 -> yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy:25
>
> This tells me that someone is doing funny stuff to my mailserver (I keep
> getting those all the time), but I don't know what is causing this entry
> and how "dangerous" this "attack" is. Is there any resource where I can
> search for snort warnings (those IDSxxx codes) and look up more information
> about a single snort rule?

http://www.whitehats.com/IDS/266

All Chameleon alerts I've seen where false positives. Basically any ip
packet directed to TCP port 25 longer than 500 bytes and having the word
help in the first 5 bytes triggers the rule. I don't think it's possible
to tell snort the difference between a false alert and a real intrusion.

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Re: snort rules (Was: Attack alert from snort)

2001-07-12 Thread Jigal Weinberg
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Martin Domig wrote:

> Hello
> 
> As I am using snort I keep getting many warnings in my logfiles which I
> don't know what they mean. For example the following entry:
> 
> Jul 11 01:17:46 keeper snort[6079]: IDS266 - CAN-1999-0261 - SMTP Chameleon
> Overflow: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:44772 -> yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy:25

Again you might want to check out the rule itself and the stream/packet
content. Some rules are prone to false positives.

 
> This tells me that someone is doing funny stuff to my mailserver (I keep
> getting those all the time), but I don't know what is causing this entry
> and how "dangerous" this "attack" is. Is there any resource where I can
> search for snort warnings (those IDSxxx codes) and look up more information
> about a single snort rule?


You can check out these IDS(\d+) at www.whitehats.com where you can
also find new rules and updates to older ones.


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Re: snort rules (Was: Attack alert from snort)

2001-07-12 Thread Jigal Weinberg

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Martin Domig wrote:

> Hello
> 
> As I am using snort I keep getting many warnings in my logfiles which I
> don't know what they mean. For example the following entry:
> 
> Jul 11 01:17:46 keeper snort[6079]: IDS266 - CAN-1999-0261 - SMTP Chameleon
> Overflow: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:44772 -> yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy:25

Again you might want to check out the rule itself and the stream/packet
content. Some rules are prone to false positives.

 
> This tells me that someone is doing funny stuff to my mailserver (I keep
> getting those all the time), but I don't know what is causing this entry
> and how "dangerous" this "attack" is. Is there any resource where I can
> search for snort warnings (those IDSxxx codes) and look up more information
> about a single snort rule?


You can check out these IDS(\d+) at www.whitehats.com where you can
also find new rules and updates to older ones.


greets


Jigal


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