Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-14 Thread Florian Kessler

Am 13.08.2001 20:01 Uhr schrieb Kenneth Pronovici unter
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 Ok... nothing at all in /var/log about this (as far as I can tell).
 
 I cannot apt to a different server.  I tried ftp2.sourceforge.net - which
 I can use lynx to connect to - but I get similar apt errors.
 
 Reinstalling apt-0.3.19 based on a newly-downloaded .deb file from
 http.us.debian.org using dpkg didn't seem to make a difference.
 
 I would be happy to compile and manually install a version of apt newer
 than 0.3.19 to see if that makes a difference, but I'm not exactly sure
 where to find it in the tree on http.us.debian.org (or elsewhere).
 
 KEN

Hi Ken,

is ftp2.sourceforge.net a debian mirror?

Try this, and only this, line in your sources.list:

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

and an apt-get update

what´s the exact output?

Do you use an apt.conf? is the syntax correct (man apt.conf)

Florian

p.s: Sorry Ken, i forgot to post it to the list, so you´ll recieve this mail
two times

p.p.s: try debian-user mailing list. the better place for your problem. and
definitely better guys to help you!


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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-14 Thread Florian Kessler
Am 13.08.2001 20:01 Uhr schrieb Kenneth Pronovici unter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Ok... nothing at all in /var/log about this (as far as I can tell).
 
 I cannot apt to a different server.  I tried ftp2.sourceforge.net - which
 I can use lynx to connect to - but I get similar apt errors.
 
 Reinstalling apt-0.3.19 based on a newly-downloaded .deb file from
 http.us.debian.org using dpkg didn't seem to make a difference.
 
 I would be happy to compile and manually install a version of apt newer
 than 0.3.19 to see if that makes a difference, but I'm not exactly sure
 where to find it in the tree on http.us.debian.org (or elsewhere).
 
 KEN

Hi Ken,

is ftp2.sourceforge.net a debian mirror?

Try this, and only this, line in your sources.list:

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

and an apt-get update

what´s the exact output?

Do you use an apt.conf? is the syntax correct (man apt.conf)

Florian

p.s: Sorry Ken, i forgot to post it to the list, so you´ll recieve this mail
two times

p.p.s: try debian-user mailing list. the better place for your problem. and
definitely better guys to help you!



Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-14 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
 is ftp2.sourceforge.net a debian mirror?

I got it off the mirrors list, and it looked like everything was sensible
from checking with lynx.

 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
 and an apt-get update
 what´s the exact output?

First, note that 'lynx http://ftp.de.debian.org' works fine.  Here's
the output:

Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Release
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Release
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Release
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Release
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Release
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/contrib/binary-i386/Release
  Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main 
Packages' 
(/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free 
Packages' 
(/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib 
Packages' 
(/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.

 Do you use an apt.conf? is the syntax correct (man apt.conf)

I don't believe I've ever modified this file.  Here it is:

// Pre-configure all packages before they are installed.
// (Automatically added by debconf.)
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt;};

 p.p.s: try debian-user mailing list. the better place for your problem. and
 definitely better guys to help you!

I did cross-post to debian-user... but you were the only one who answered. ;-)
The main reason I posted on security was my question about the ftp URL for 
security.debian.org... I was expecting help on most of the rest from the
user list.  If you don't have any other ideas after this round, that's fine... 
since I have a workaround, there's no need for you to continue spending time 
on this.  Thanks for all of the help, though!

KEN

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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-14 Thread Jason Thomas
do you use a proxy with lynx, if so you may need to use one with apt!

On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:09:52AM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
  is ftp2.sourceforge.net a debian mirror?
 
 I got it off the mirrors list, and it looked like everything was sensible
 from checking with lynx.
 
  deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
  and an apt-get update
  what?s the exact output?
 
 First, note that 'lynx http://ftp.de.debian.org' works fine.  Here's
 the output:
 
 Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Release
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Release
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Err http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Release
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Release
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Release
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/contrib/binary-i386/Release
   Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org (141.76.2.4).
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main 
 Packages' 
 (/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
  - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://ftp.de.debian.org 
 testing/non-free Packages' 
 (/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
  - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://ftp.de.debian.org 
 testing/contrib Packages' 
 (/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
  - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these missing files
 E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
 used instead.
 
  Do you use an apt.conf? is the syntax correct (man apt.conf)
 
 I don't believe I've ever modified this file.  Here it is:
 
 // Pre-configure all packages before they are installed.
 // (Automatically added by debconf.)
 DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt;};
 
  p.p.s: try debian-user mailing list. the better place for your problem. and
  definitely better guys to help you!
 
 I did cross-post to debian-user... but you were the only one who answered. ;-)
 The main reason I posted on security was my question about the ftp URL for 
 security.debian.org... I was expecting help on most of the rest from the
 user list.  If you don't have any other ideas after this round, that's 
 fine... 
 since I have a workaround, there's no need for you to continue spending time 
 on this.  Thanks for all of the help, though!
 
 KEN
 
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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-14 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
 do you use a proxy with lynx, if so you may need to use one with apt!

Ah.. that got asked before privately; I should have posted a reply to 
the list.  No, there's no proxy needed.

KEN



Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Florian Kessler

Am 13.08.2001 17:25 Uhr schrieb Kenneth Pronovici unter
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 Err http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages
 Could not connect to security.debian.org (132.229.131.40).
 
 
 My guess is that this was a temporary server or network
 outage.  I just did an apt-get update with this same source.
 It hung and 99% the first try and I Ctrl C to break and
 immediately ran it again and it worked fine.
 
 That was my first thought, too... except apt-get worked on one of my other
 machines running the 'testing' distribution (I should have mentioned that
 in my original post).  Incidentally, it still doesn't work now.
 
 KEN

Hi Ken,

do you use any kind of firewall? In the network or local? Eventually a
configuration mistake in netfilterIs your specific machine allowed to
connect to debian.org?
can you ping 132.229.131.40? ping security.debian.org?
What does telnet security.debian.org 80 say?

Florian


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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Florian Kessler

Am 13.08.2001 18:02 Uhr schrieb Kenneth Pronovici unter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 do you use any kind of firewall? In the network or local? Eventually a
 configuration mistake in netfilterIs your specific machine allowed to
 connect to debian.org?
 can you ping 132.229.131.40? ping security.debian.org?
 What does telnet security.debian.org 80 say?
 
 Yes, I'm using a firewall (gShield) but configuration for it hasn't
 changed recently (rather, I changed it and put it back but it didn't
 seem to make a difference).
 
 Telnet, ping, lynx to security.debian.org with either IP address or
 name work fine... just not apt-get.
 
 KEN

Hmm...

Any logs about? /var/log/syslog? /var/log/messages?
are you able to apt another server? Is your apt installation fine or is
any file missing?
Try to fetch the aptdeb, purge your existing apt (dpkg --force-depends
--purge apt), and reinstall it, to assure no file´s missing and try again.

Florian


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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Malcolm Herbert
I had a similar question in regard to where partidcular packages which
have security patches should be downloaded from - the obvious question
is the security server, however it doesn't seem to work that way all the
time ...

I don't have my sources.list at hand, unfortunately, but I have noticed
that from where I am in the network, the security site often will
time out during a download of a particular .deb file which has been
updated ...

that's not really the problem - the problem is that apt appears to then
continue fetching the file from the normal archive rather than from the
secure one. The fetched .deb appears to have exactly the same version
and revision details as the secure version, and unpacks and installs
fine ... but I would have thought that for security's sake that apt
should only have attempted to fetch the package from the secure URL
rather than the (possibly less secure) main site ... unless the user
intervened of course ...

Presumably if someone were able to poison the main site with a carefully
constructed .deb I could be in trouble if the download from the secure
site failed part-way through ...

Just a thought ...

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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Jeff Coppock
Kenneth Pronovici, 2001-Aug-12 21:49 -0500:
Err http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages
  Could not connect to security.debian.org (132.229.131.40).
 

   My guess is that this was a temporary server or network
   outage.  I just did an apt-get update with this same source. 
   It hung and 99% the first try and I Ctrl C to break and
   immediately ran it again and it worked fine.
   
   jc

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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
 Err http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages
   Could not connect to security.debian.org (132.229.131.40).
 

My guess is that this was a temporary server or network
outage.  I just did an apt-get update with this same source.
It hung and 99% the first try and I Ctrl C to break and
immediately ran it again and it worked fine.

That was my first thought, too... except apt-get worked on one of my other
machines running the 'testing' distribution (I should have mentioned that 
in my original post).  Incidentally, it still doesn't work now.

KEN

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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Florian Kessler
Am 13.08.2001 17:25 Uhr schrieb Kenneth Pronovici unter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Err http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages
 Could not connect to security.debian.org (132.229.131.40).
 
 
 My guess is that this was a temporary server or network
 outage.  I just did an apt-get update with this same source.
 It hung and 99% the first try and I Ctrl C to break and
 immediately ran it again and it worked fine.
 
 That was my first thought, too... except apt-get worked on one of my other
 machines running the 'testing' distribution (I should have mentioned that
 in my original post).  Incidentally, it still doesn't work now.
 
 KEN

Hi Ken,

do you use any kind of firewall? In the network or local? Eventually a
configuration mistake in netfilterIs your specific machine allowed to
connect to debian.org?
can you ping 132.229.131.40? ping security.debian.org?
What does telnet security.debian.org 80 say?

Florian



Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
 do you use any kind of firewall? In the network or local? Eventually a
 configuration mistake in netfilterIs your specific machine allowed to
 connect to debian.org?
 can you ping 132.229.131.40? ping security.debian.org?
 What does telnet security.debian.org 80 say?

Yes, I'm using a firewall (gShield) but configuration for it hasn't 
changed recently (rather, I changed it and put it back but it didn't
seem to make a difference).  

Telnet, ping, lynx to security.debian.org with either IP address or
name work fine... just not apt-get.

KEN

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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Florian Kessler
Am 13.08.2001 18:02 Uhr schrieb Kenneth Pronovici unter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 do you use any kind of firewall? In the network or local? Eventually a
 configuration mistake in netfilterIs your specific machine allowed to
 connect to debian.org?
 can you ping 132.229.131.40? ping security.debian.org?
 What does telnet security.debian.org 80 say?
 
 Yes, I'm using a firewall (gShield) but configuration for it hasn't
 changed recently (rather, I changed it and put it back but it didn't
 seem to make a difference).
 
 Telnet, ping, lynx to security.debian.org with either IP address or
 name work fine... just not apt-get.
 
 KEN

Hmm...

Any logs about? /var/log/syslog? /var/log/messages?
are you able to apt another server? Is your apt installation fine or is
any file missing?
Try to fetch the aptdeb, purge your existing apt (dpkg --force-depends
--purge apt), and reinstall it, to assure no file´s missing and try again.

Florian



Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-13 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
 Hmm...
 
 Any logs about? /var/log/syslog? /var/log/messages?
 are you able to apt another server? Is your apt installation fine or is
 any file missing?
 Try to fetch the aptdeb, purge your existing apt (dpkg --force-depends
 --purge apt), and reinstall it, to assure no file´s missing and try again.

Ok... nothing at all in /var/log about this (as far as I can tell).

I cannot apt to a different server.  I tried ftp2.sourceforge.net - which 
I can use lynx to connect to - but I get similar apt errors.  

Reinstalling apt-0.3.19 based on a newly-downloaded .deb file from 
http.us.debian.org using dpkg didn't seem to make a difference.  

I would be happy to compile and manually install a version of apt newer
than 0.3.19 to see if that makes a difference, but I'm not exactly sure 
where to find it in the tree on http.us.debian.org (or elsewhere).

KEN

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Re: apt-get issue(s)

2001-08-12 Thread Jeff Coppock

Kenneth Pronovici, 2001-Aug-12 21:49 -0500:
Err http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages
  Could not connect to security.debian.org (132.229.131.40).
 

   My guess is that this was a temporary server or network
   outage.  I just did an apt-get update with this same source. 
   It hung and 99% the first try and I Ctrl C to break and
   immediately ran it again and it worked fine.
   
   jc

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Systems Engineerhttp://nortelnetworks.com
Major Accts.Santa Clara, CA


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