Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Joey Hess

Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
 I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
 disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
 in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Razor only scores 3 points in spamassassin, so a mail would need to
exhibit two more points of spammishness to be flagged by spamassassin.
I've not seen any false positives frm bugtraq. I consider razor mostly
useless by itself, but it's still worth something as a part of a larger
tool.

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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Oliver M . Bolzer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0600, Bryan Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote...
 
 My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not 
 perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered 
 out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin 
 puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam 
 status.  

I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.
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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:31:24AM +0100, Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
 I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
 disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
 in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Or you can add 

whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to your .spamassassin.cf file.

Luca

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RE:SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis

Heh, what's funny is that SpamAssassin tagged this message
you sent as spam and sent it to my spam folder.

j.

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Subject: *SPAM* SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE
INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

[snip]

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam
status.



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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Luca Filipozzi

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:31:24AM +0100, Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
 I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
 disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
 in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Or you can add 

whitelist_from *@lists.debian.org

to your .spamassassin.cf file.

Luca

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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Hi,

Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 We could start by blocking @aol.com =)
Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
look up the original posting in my spam folder..

Greets,
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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
 Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

 Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
 even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
 look up the original posting in my spam folder..

That's unfortunately not the solution.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l .mail/junk
-rw---1 srittau  srittau   2766614 24. Jan 09:39 .mail/junk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

And that's only the SPAM mail from this year. I have to download this
over ad 56kBit link and I pay by the minute.

 - Sebastian



SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Bryan Andersen
Sebastian Rittau wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
  Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
   We could start by blocking @aol.com =)
 
  Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
  even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
  look up the original posting in my spam folder..
 
 That's unfortunately not the solution.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l .mail/junk
 -rw---1 srittau  srittau   2766614 24. Jan 09:39 .mail/junk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
 
 And that's only the SPAM mail from this year. I have to download this
 over ad 56kBit link and I pay by the minute.

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not 
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered 
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin 
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam 
status.  

  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=6 tests= version=2.0

is the spam status header for the message I'm replying to.  
This is the spam status headers from a spam message:

  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=18 required=6
tests=INVALID_DATE_NO_TZ,NONEXISTENT_CHARSET,EXCUSE_3,EXCUSE_7,REPLY_REMOVE_SUBJECT,REMOVE_SUBJ,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY,CHARSET_FARAWAY,DATE_IN_FUTURE,RCVD_IN_5_10,RCVD_IN_OUT_ORBZ
version=2.0
  X-Spam-Flag: YES
  X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.0 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v
1.51 2001/12/19 05:20:44 jmason Exp $)
  X-Spam-Report:   18.7 hits, 6 required;
*  2.0 -- Invalid Date: header (no timezone)
*  2.0 -- Character set doesn't exist
*  2.5 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  0.1 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  0.1 -- BODY: List removal information
*  3.3 -- BODY: List removal information
*  1.7 -- BODY: Says: to be removed, reply via email or similar
*  3.0 -- Character set indicates a foreign language
*  2.0 -- Date: is in the future or unparseable
*  1.0 -- Received via a relay in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com
  [RBL check: found
4.84.114.211.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.]
*  1.0 -- Received via a relay in outputs.orbz.org
  [RBL check: found 101.156.42.208.outputs.orbz.org.]

I still end up download the spam, but I know it is possible 
for an email program to filter on the headers before downloading 
the body of the message.  It would be even nicer if Debian 
filtered on it and rejected messages that it marks as spam.  It 
wouldn't be perfect, but it would cut down on alot of them.


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RE:SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
Heh, what's funny is that SpamAssassin tagged this message
you sent as spam and sent it to my spam folder.

j.

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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:04 PM
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Subject: *SPAM* SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE
INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

[snip]

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam
status.




RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread Ed Street

Hello,

Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email everyone with
your street address so we can all come to your house and show you our
appreciation! 

As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can we block
this crap from the list.

Ed

 -Original Message-
 From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
 To: kriss rolo
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
 ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
 
 
 Kriss,
 
 This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever 
 run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
 Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
 Security to this list in the future.
 
 Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing 
 anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
 
 Thank you.
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RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread James

We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

- James

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:25 PM
 To: 'David Ehle'; 'kriss rolo'
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
 ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email 
 everyone with your street address so we can all come to your 
 house and show you our appreciation! 
 
 As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can 
 we block this crap from the list.
 
 Ed
 
  -Original Message-
  From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
  To: kriss rolo
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
  ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
  
  
  Kriss,
  
  This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever
  run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
  Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
  Security to this list in the future.
  
  Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing
  anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
  
  Thank you.
  David.
  
  
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RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread Ed Street
Hello,

Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email everyone with
your street address so we can all come to your house and show you our
appreciation! 

As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can we block
this crap from the list.

Ed

 -Original Message-
 From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
 To: kriss rolo
 Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
 ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
 
 
 Kriss,
 
 This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever 
 run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
 Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
 Security to this list in the future.
 
 Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing 
 anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
 
 Thank you.
 David.
 
 
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RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread James
We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

- James

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:25 PM
 To: 'David Ehle'; 'kriss rolo'
 Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
 Subject: RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
 ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email 
 everyone with your street address so we can all come to your 
 house and show you our appreciation! 
 
 As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can 
 we block this crap from the list.
 
 Ed
 
  -Original Message-
  From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
  To: kriss rolo
  Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
  ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
  
  
  Kriss,
  
  This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever
  run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
  Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
  Security to this list in the future.
  
  Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing
  anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
  
  Thank you.
  David.
  
  
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