Re: Support for Potato

2002-07-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jens Hafner wrote:
> I couldn't agree more. Will there be an official announcement on this
> list about how long you will be supporting potato?

This week I hope. First we need to sort out a few technical issues
related to the woody release.

Wichert.

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RE: Support for Potato

2002-07-25 Thread Jens Hafner

I couldn't agree more. Will there be an official announcement on this
list about how long you will be supporting potato?



-Original Message-
From: martin f krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:08 AM
To: 'debian-security@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Re: Support for Potato

also sprach Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.07.25.0057
+0200]:
> Currently we're thinking of at least 3 months full support and
somewhat
> longer for remote exploits. We haven't made any decisions yet though.

How much work (in man hours per day) do you reckon Potato's
maintenance to be, roughly and on average? I've had loads of users ask
if potato was to be continued because it just perfectly suits their
needs and they don't want new stuff. It might just be worth it. The
occasional security fix here and there, other than that it's not
really that big of an issue, is it? Space and bandwidth, okay, but it
might be a good thing to keep around for so long until woody is at
least as usable and stable, and until potato->woody is guaranteed to
progress without any problems...

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Re: Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:54:17AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> I can't upgrade, it would require restarting and that would blow my
> record on necraft.com

Why would you need to restart?  Today I wanted to upgrade a busy server
(busy with apache & proftp).  I put apache & proftp on hold in
/var/lib/dpkg/status, then ran apt-get update && apt-get -u
dist-upgrade.  No problem, no downtime.  I'll get around to upgrading
apache & proftp when activity is a bit lower, but aside from those two
packages I've upgraded the whole system with 0 downtime.  (well, maybe a
second or two while the services restarted due to the libc6 upgrade...)
But a reboot certainly wasn't required.

noah

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RE: Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread Howland, Curtis

> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 at 01:08:29AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > least as usable and stable, and until potato->woody is guaranteed to
> > progress without any problems...
> > 
> Problems?  What problems?   Just A LOT of tweaks

I can't upgrade, it would require restarting and that would blow my
record on necraft.com


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Re: Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 at 01:08:29AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> least as usable and stable, and until potato->woody is guaranteed to
> progress without any problems...
> 
Problems?  What problems?   Just A LOT of tweaks



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Re: Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.07.25.0057 +0200]:
> Currently we're thinking of at least 3 months full support and somewhat
> longer for remote exploits. We haven't made any decisions yet though.

How much work (in man hours per day) do you reckon Potato's
maintenance to be, roughly and on average? I've had loads of users ask
if potato was to be continued because it just perfectly suits their
needs and they don't want new stuff. It might just be worth it. The
occasional security fix here and there, other than that it's not
really that big of an issue, is it? Space and bandwidth, okay, but it
might be a good thing to keep around for so long until woody is at
least as usable and stable, and until potato->woody is guaranteed to
progress without any problems...

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Re: Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Desai, Jason wrote:
> Does anybody know how long Debian will officially be supporting Potato and
> providing security updates for it?

Currently we're thinking of at least 3 months full support and somewhat
longer for remote exploits. We haven't made any decisions yet though.

Wichert.

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Re: Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:24:51PM -0400, Desai, Jason wrote:
> Does anybody know how long Debian will officially be supporting Potato and
> providing security updates for it?

We haven't yet announced anything officially.  We do want to continue to
support it for a longer time than we supported slink when it became
obsolete.  We'll do our best, but we have limited resources and woody
will be the priority.  Help from the user community would certainly be
appreciated.  If bugs are found that affect potato, we'd certainly like
to hear about it.  Technical details and/or a patch to fix it would be
even better.

noah

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Support for Potato

2002-07-24 Thread Desai, Jason
Does anybody know how long Debian will officially be supporting Potato and
providing security updates for it?


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