Re: base-passwd bug?

[Jussi Ekholm]

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Daniel O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had the same problem.  This kind of initiative by the package
> shouldn't be so passive.  It should be corrected, or one might find
> themselves frustrated.

I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand what you mean. What problem did
you have? It may be "the language barrier", but I just couldn't
comprehend correctly of what you say above. I apologize, but could you
rephrase?

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Jussi Ekholm]

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Olaf Meeuwissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
>> added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
>> know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?
>
> From /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz
> 
> base-passwd (3.4.2) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * Add new sasl group used to regulate access to the sasl secrets
[...]
> 
> Install apt-listchanges and you can get to see these kind of things
> before you upgrade and/or mailed to an address of your choice.

I do have apt-listchanges installed and it does mail me the
changelogs, but I haven't figured out what 'sasl secrets' actually
are. And with a quick glance through groups.google.com I see word
'Cyrus' used with it, and Cyrus is also used with IMAP. Still, I
can't say that I'd know what 'sasl secrets' are; I admit, I'm not
very good with search engines... and for what Google gave me, I
didn't get very much more educated. Maybe I'm just tired.

As I mentioned in my earlier mails, I just do not know what sasl
actually is and what piece of something would use this group.
Anyway, this is no biggie, as I know understand that it isn't
world-shaking issue for me. :-) I just have to dig more information
about this.

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Jussi Ekholm]

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Daniel O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had the same problem.  This kind of initiative by the package
> shouldn't be so passive.  It should be corrected, or one might find
> themselves frustrated.

I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand what you mean. What problem did
you have? It may be "the language barrier", but I just couldn't
comprehend correctly of what you say above. I apologize, but could you
rephrase?

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Jussi Ekholm]

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Olaf Meeuwissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
>> added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
>> know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?
>
> From /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz
> 
> base-passwd (3.4.2) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * Add new sasl group used to regulate access to the sasl secrets
[...]
> 
> Install apt-listchanges and you can get to see these kind of things
> before you upgrade and/or mailed to an address of your choice.

I do have apt-listchanges installed and it does mail me the
changelogs, but I haven't figured out what 'sasl secrets' actually
are. And with a quick glance through groups.google.com I see word
'Cyrus' used with it, and Cyrus is also used with IMAP. Still, I
can't say that I'd know what 'sasl secrets' are; I admit, I'm not
very good with search engines... and for what Google gave me, I
didn't get very much more educated. Maybe I'm just tired.

As I mentioned in my earlier mails, I just do not know what sasl
actually is and what piece of something would use this group.
Anyway, this is no biggie, as I know understand that it isn't
world-shaking issue for me. :-) I just have to dig more information
about this.

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Mark]

I can su to root from the console but in Konsole i get the following:
su
Password:
su: Error in service module
Sorry.

Re: base-passwd bug?

[Daniel O'Neill]

I had the same problem.  This kind of initiative by the package
shouldn't be so passive.  It should be corrected, or one might find
themselves frustrated.

On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 23:51, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
> > >> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
> > >> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
> > >> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
> > >> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> > > 
> > > Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> > > unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> > > which could affect 'su'.
> > 
> > I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
> > base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
> > added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
> > know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?
> 
> >From /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz
> 
> base-passwd (3.4.2) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * Add new sasl group used to regulate access to the sasl secrets
>   * Drop prerm
>   * No longer make /usr/doc symlinks
> 
>  -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:35:30 +0200
> 
> Install apt-listchanges and you can get to see these kind of things
> before you upgrade and/or mailed to an address of your choice.
> 
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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
> >> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
> >> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
> >> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
> >> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> > 
> > Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> > unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> > which could affect 'su'.
> 
> I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
> base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
> added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
> know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?

>From /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz

base-passwd (3.4.2) unstable; urgency=low

  * Add new sasl group used to regulate access to the sasl secrets
  * Drop prerm
  * No longer make /usr/doc symlinks

 -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:35:30 +0200

Install apt-listchanges and you can get to see these kind of things
before you upgrade and/or mailed to an address of your choice.

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LPIC-2   -- I hack, therefore I am -- BOFH

Re: base-passwd bug?

[Mark]

I can su to root from the console but in Konsole i get the following:
su
Password:
su: Error in service module
Sorry.


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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Daniel O'Neill]

I had the same problem.  This kind of initiative by the package
shouldn't be so passive.  It should be corrected, or one might find
themselves frustrated.

On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 23:51, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
> > >> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
> > >> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
> > >> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
> > >> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> > > 
> > > Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> > > unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> > > which could affect 'su'.
> > 
> > I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
> > base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
> > added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
> > know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?
> 
> >From /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz
> 
> base-passwd (3.4.2) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * Add new sasl group used to regulate access to the sasl secrets
>   * Drop prerm
>   * No longer make /usr/doc symlinks
> 
>  -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:35:30 +0200
> 
> Install apt-listchanges and you can get to see these kind of things
> before you upgrade and/or mailed to an address of your choice.
> 
> -- 
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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Jussi Ekholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
> >> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
> >> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
> >> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
> >> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> > 
> > Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> > unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> > which could affect 'su'.
> 
> I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
> base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
> added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
> know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?

>From /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/changelog.gz

base-passwd (3.4.2) unstable; urgency=low

  * Add new sasl group used to regulate access to the sasl secrets
  * Drop prerm
  * No longer make /usr/doc symlinks

 -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:35:30 +0200

Install apt-listchanges and you can get to see these kind of things
before you upgrade and/or mailed to an address of your choice.

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[andrew lattis]

On 2002/10/10 11:24:38PM +0300, Thu, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
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> J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki R??bert wrote:
> >> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
> >> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
> >> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
> >> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> > 
> > Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> > unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> > which could affect 'su'.
> 
> I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
> base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
> added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
> know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?
> 
sasl is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer'
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/

its used by sendmail to implement smtp auth, as well as cyrus imap,
openldap and a few others. 

nothing to be worried about.


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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Jussi Ekholm]

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J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
>> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
>> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
>> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
>> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> 
> Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> which could affect 'su'.

I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded the
> base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded" also, since
> one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root any more; regular
> users can log in normally.

Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in unstable
recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges which could
affect 'su'.

HTH,
Ray
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base-passwd bug?

[Kisteleki Róbert]

Hi,

Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded the 
base-passwd package. The root 
password seems to be "upgraded" also, since one of the two machines doesn't 
allow su-ing to root any 
more; regular users can log in normally. The other box is okay.

Anyone else had the same problem?

Regards,
Robert

Re: base-passwd bug?

[andrew lattis]

On 2002/10/10 11:24:38PM +0300, Thu, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
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> 
> J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki R??bert wrote:
> >> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
> >> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
> >> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
> >> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> > 
> > Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> > unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> > which could affect 'su'.
> 
> I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
> base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
> added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
> know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?
> 
sasl is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer'
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/

its used by sendmail to implement smtp auth, as well as cyrus imap,
openldap and a few others. 

nothing to be worried about.



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Re: base-passwd bug?

[Jussi Ekholm]

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J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
>> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded
>> the base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded"
>> also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root
>> any more; regular users can log in normally.
> 
> Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in
> unstable recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges
> which could affect 'su'.

I'm running roughly 90% testing and 10% unstable system, and the
base-passwd which got upgraded yesterday, works just fine here. It
added one new group, though, which I'm concerned of because I don't
know what this group is. It's called 'sasl' -- what uses it?

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Re: base-passwd bug?

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 21:31:13 -, Kisteleki Róbert wrote:
> Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded the
> base-passwd package. The root password seems to be "upgraded" also, since
> one of the two machines doesn't allow su-ing to root any more; regular
> users can log in normally.

Try logging in on a tty/console. A new PAM has been introduced in unstable
recently as well; it may well still have a few rough edges which could
affect 'su'.

HTH,
Ray
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base-passwd bug?

[Kisteleki Róbert]

Hi,

Yesterday I upgraded two severs with apt, which in turn upgraded the base-passwd 
package. The root 
password seems to be "upgraded" also, since one of the two machines doesn't allow 
su-ing to root any 
more; regular users can log in normally. The other box is okay.

Anyone else had the same problem?

Regards,
Robert




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