Re: security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Alf B Lervaag
Erik Hjelmås wrote:
> any pointers to material which may be relevant are greatly appreciated

Check out [1].  Might be what you're interested in.

[1]. http://monk.debian.net/apt-secure/

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Re: security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 06:19:28PM +0100, Horst Pflugstaedt wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 04:12:59PM +0100, Erik Hjelm?s wrote:
> > I've spent a few hours searching, what Im looking for is a discussion
> > of different security aspects of apt, questions like
> > - What are the possible threats in terms of ip spoofing, dns cache
> > poisoning? (are there any solutions in terms of PKI (PGP) or similar
> > discussed somewhere?)
> 
> that issue is the same as for every web-based download.

For apt < 0.6, this is true.  In apt 0.6, all binary packages are
authenticated using gnupg, and so network trust is not an issue.

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Re: security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Horst Pflugstaedt
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 04:12:59PM +0100, Erik Hjelmås wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've spent a few hours searching, what Im looking for is a discussion
> of different security aspects of apt, questions like
> - What are the possible threats in terms of ip spoofing, dns cache
> poisoning? (are there any solutions in terms of PKI (PGP) or similar
> discussed somewhere?)

that issue is the same as for every web-based download. apt-get relys
on your sources.list which according to man sources.list currently
knows entries for http, ftp, cd-rom and file.
So apart from cd-rom, you ask for the security of http, ftp and i.e. nfs
or any other remote-mountable filesystem.


Horst.

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Re: security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Alf B Lervaag
Erik Hjelmås wrote:
> any pointers to material which may be relevant are greatly appreciated

Check out [1].  Might be what you're interested in.

[1]. http://monk.debian.net/apt-secure/

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Re: security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 06:19:28PM +0100, Horst Pflugstaedt wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 04:12:59PM +0100, Erik Hjelm?s wrote:
> > I've spent a few hours searching, what Im looking for is a discussion
> > of different security aspects of apt, questions like
> > - What are the possible threats in terms of ip spoofing, dns cache
> > poisoning? (are there any solutions in terms of PKI (PGP) or similar
> > discussed somewhere?)
> 
> that issue is the same as for every web-based download.

For apt < 0.6, this is true.  In apt 0.6, all binary packages are
authenticated using gnupg, and so network trust is not an issue.

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Re: security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Horst Pflugstaedt
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 04:12:59PM +0100, Erik Hjelmås wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've spent a few hours searching, what Im looking for is a discussion
> of different security aspects of apt, questions like
> - What are the possible threats in terms of ip spoofing, dns cache
> poisoning? (are there any solutions in terms of PKI (PGP) or similar
> discussed somewhere?)

that issue is the same as for every web-based download. apt-get relys
on your sources.list which according to man sources.list currently
knows entries for http, ftp, cd-rom and file.
So apart from cd-rom, you ask for the security of http, ftp and i.e. nfs
or any other remote-mountable filesystem.


Horst.

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security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Erik Hjelmås
Hi,

I've spent a few hours searching, what Im looking for is a discussion
of different security aspects of apt, questions like
- What are the possible threats in terms of ip spoofing, dns cache
poisoning? (are there any solutions in terms of PKI (PGP) or similar
discussed somewhere?)
- If I need to automate a large site, is mirroring/proxying everything in
sources.list and manually controlling this as a filter to the rest of the
site the best solution? (assuming I can control cache poisoning attacks on
my local network)

I found some interesting disussion on adding 3-party sites on
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/security/2004/01/msg00116.html
and something also sort of related
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/security/2003/09/msg00283.html

any pointers to material which may be relevant are greatly appreciated

/Erik



security of apt

2004-01-25 Thread Erik Hjelmås
Hi,

I've spent a few hours searching, what Im looking for is a discussion
of different security aspects of apt, questions like
- What are the possible threats in terms of ip spoofing, dns cache
poisoning? (are there any solutions in terms of PKI (PGP) or similar
discussed somewhere?)
- If I need to automate a large site, is mirroring/proxying everything in
sources.list and manually controlling this as a filter to the rest of the
site the best solution? (assuming I can control cache poisoning attacks on
my local network)

I found some interesting disussion on adding 3-party sites on
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/security/2004/01/msg00116.html
and something also sort of related
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/security/2003/09/msg00283.html

any pointers to material which may be relevant are greatly appreciated

/Erik


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