on holiday for 3 weeks

[Eric Delaunay]

Hello all,

I'm on holiday for 3 weeks.  If any of my packages (kernel-patch-sparc,
sparc-utils, sparc-fdisk, libc5) need work, feel free to do NMU.
Moreover, if someone have to work on boot disks, I commited all the sparc
changes to the CVS tree available on master (contact Enrique Zanardi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to know how to access to the sources or get the
latest boot-floppies (2.0.9)).

Bye.

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2.0.34 "candidate" for SS5/170 (turbosparc)

[Derrick J Brashear]

Hi,

I did some work on TurboSparc support for 2.0 kernels yesterday; Stephen Zander
helped a bunch by doing some testing (and I hope he'll help me some more, but
we got something useful, read on...)

At ftp://jooky.dementia.org/pub/linux-turbo you can find an image of a kernel,
an a.out image of same, and a version of the redhat 4.2 installer with said
kernel (but with a bug as mentioned in the README in that directory) which
successfully booted Stephen's machine (I didn't ask him if he tried anything
else), and which I was able to use to install a SS5/170 belonging to a fellow
Computing Services staff member here at CMU which I must boot back into Solaris
in a few minutes:-(

Give it a try; I suspect it's still going to randomly segfault like the 2.1
kernel does, but this should at least get the 2.0 kernel where the 2.1 is.

If you're willing to try some other candidates I have, let me know and I'll
explain further.

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Re: X Stuff.

[Anders Hammarquist]

>Umm, well I am at the point where I am using Dselect to install all the
>crap I want, including X and stuff... but it gets so far, then complains
>about depending and needing packages which are not available.
>I can't remember which ones they were off the top of my head. I am at work
>and can't check, but it seemed to me X wasn't finished enuf, and vital
>packages weren't available to make X work. So I haven't even installed X at
>this stage.

At this point, there are no sparc X-server packages available from master
(IIRC there is an xlib6 though). There are however test packages available
at ftp.netg.se:/pub/Linux/sparc/X. If noone makes any complaints about the
packages I intend to apply a few more fixes and run another build this
weekend. If I don't run in to any problems I'll send them off to master
on Monday.

Regards,
/Anders

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Re: libc6 (980414) problems

[Joel Klecker]

At 6:10 PM -0700 7/9/98, Steve Dunham wrote:
>I'd like to second this request.  I can't get Debian to run on my
>Sparc 20 with a 2.1.103 CVS kernel. (And the kernel that comes with it
>won't even boot.)  I suspect the problems are related to libc6
>(seemingly the only difference between Debian and UltraPenguin, which
>runs fine with that kernel).
>
>Symptoms:
>
>  "bash" segfaults after running any external command.
>  "dpkg-deb" aborts complaining about the input not being in gzip format

On powerpc, we have traced this last one to an interaction between late
glibc 2.1 snapshots, and late 2.1 kernels, this has also been shown to
affect i386 as well.
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sparc/linux deception

[Dinh-Tuan . Pham]

Hi,
I became a linux fan when I install linux on my personal PC
some seven months ago. In our laboratory we have several old sparc
running solaris and plan to convert them to linux/sparc. I begin with
a sparc IPC.
The instalation seem ok and I can even have X working thank to
the binaries in ftp://ftp.netg.se/pub/Linux/sparc/X/. At boot I got
some nasty error message about configuation of serial ports. Nothing
serious, I guess I can supress the script init.boot/0SETSERIALS (which
cause the message, I think) because I dont need that (but I havn't
figure out how to supressed the file in a clean way)
That good news, now the bad one. It seems to be a minor isssue
but in fact it is the single one so far which would halt my plan of
installing spacr/linux. The problem is: Keyboard Repeat Rate Too Fast
(actually it is the delay time before repeating which is too short).
Because of this, logging in is a real pain because there is a high
risk that some of your password characters you type have been repeat
and you can't know which. Quite often, after typing a command, I have
to to use the back-arrow to suppress the extra unwanted characters.
I have noticed that my linux intel also have a too fast
keybroad repeat rate. But there are remedies

1a) Use the kdbrate command to set the delay and repeat rate
1b) Use the XF86Config file or command option to set this rate under X
2) recompile the kernel with 2 lines of assembly code commented out 
(as described in the Keyboard-and-Connsole Hosto)

None of this works with linux/sparc. I have tried every possible
options in the kbdrate command, my keyboard repeat rate and delay seem
to be unaffected. I have tried similar option in X: same thing. (I
hav'nt tried to use the config file, XF86Config seem not to exist in
sparc/linux/X.) The Xserver man page say -r turns off keyboard repeat,
I have tried this, it still repeats ! As for the solution 2) above,
there seems to have no equivalent in sparc/linux

By the way I have the same problem when I tried the redhat 4.2 sparc
some months ago. I have hoped that their new version 5.1 would solve
the problem, but I cannot check, since they haven't provide a boot
disk image, so I can't install their system. This leads me to debian
(which is in fact better for me because it is leaner). But I suspect I 
would get the same probleme with the redhat software.

I hope that some one on this group can come up with a solution. I have
also considered reporting the problem to redhat, but since I am not
their customer, I hesitate. This machine, although slow, serve very
well as an X terminal and I indent to give it the same function under
linux (with moreover the possibility of logging in and experimenting
various things). However, if the keyborad does'nt function correctly,
people will complain and I would get blamed.

By the way, speaking of X terminal, there is a glitch in the
/sparc/linux/X software. I launch

X -indirect name_of-my machine

so that I have a choose menu which I can login into mavhine under X.
The problem is that I cannot return to a console terminal. Unlike
linux PC, Crt-Alt-F1 does nothing, Ctrl-Backspace does not kill X. As
under solaris, the ouly way is to kill X by a kill command, but unlike
solaris, if I do this under linux, the system simply hangs ! I have to
make a cold reboot to restart the system.

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Re: libc6 (980414) problems

[Steve Dunham]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Vojta) writes:

> > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Derrick J Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: libc6 (980414) problems
> > To: Paul Vojta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > ld.so causing this, I could buy (in a second. I've had tons of fun with
> > ld.so).  
> Maybe even the ld.so which comes with glibc, but not glibc itself. 

> I disabled automount and rebooted, and netscape now works.  So probably
> automount was messing up the kernel in some way.

> Incidentally, libc6-980414 is getting a bit long in the tooth.  Anybody know
> when a new version will be made available, or where I can get the current
> source to compile it myself?

I'd like to second this request.  I can't get Debian to run on my
Sparc 20 with a 2.1.103 CVS kernel. (And the kernel that comes with it
won't even boot.)  I suspect the problems are related to libc6
(seemingly the only difference between Debian and UltraPenguin, which
runs fine with that kernel).

Symptoms:

  "bash" segfaults after running any external command.
  "dpkg-deb" aborts complaining about the input not being in gzip format


Steve
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RE: X Stuff.

[Richard]

Umm, well I am at the point where I am using Dselect to install all the 
crap I want, including X and stuff... but it gets so far, then complains 
about depending and needing packages which are not available.
I can't remember which ones they were off the top of my head. I am at work 
and can't check, but it seemed to me X wasn't finished enuf, and vital 
packages weren't available to make X work. So I haven't even installed X at 
this stage.

Thanks.





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-Original Message-
From:   Ward Deng [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, July 10, 1998 4:40 AM
To: Richard
Cc: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
Subject:RE: Remote Booting Question/Problem on IPC

>
> The only thing I am stuck on, and haven't had much time to look at is
> installing X.
>
> Anyone out there got X working on a Sparc IPC or Sparc of any sort ??

No problem. I have not tried the latest version which supposely fixes
compressed fonts inconvenience. You needed to start xfs (X fonts server)
to work around it. I also noticed that I had to change the permission on
/etc/fb0 to allow regular users to start X. I do not know if it is a
glitch from my side.

The system is a SS1+ with CG3 graphics.

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Re: libc6 (980414) problems

[Paul Vojta]

> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Derrick J Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: libc6 (980414) problems
> To: Paul Vojta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ld.so causing this, I could buy (in a second. I've had tons of fun with
> ld.so).  > Maybe even the ld.so which comes with glibc, but not glibc itself. 

I disabled automount and rebooted, and netscape now works.  So probably
automount was messing up the kernel in some way.

Incidentally, libc6-980414 is getting a bit long in the tooth.  Anybody know
when a new version will be made available, or where I can get the current
source to compile it myself?

--Paul Vojta, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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