Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Anton Blanchard]

 
> This isn't the problem. modprobe is locking up.  Whenever a module is
> autoloaded, the system locks up.  The last thing modprobe does is:
> 
>   SYS_66(
> 
> Which should be a 'vfork()'.  I'm not entirely sure what is going
> wrong here.  In the kernel vfork calls exactly the same code as fork
> (although the entry code is different in sparc64).  I would suspect a
> kernel problem, but the older version of libc works.

sparc32 vfork has been broken until very recently. It should be fixed
in the cvs tree.

Anton

Re: 24bits and colors

[Hendrik Visage]

Chris Trainor wrote:

> Blah, that stinks.  What about the APx or whatever it is for the Sparc5?

That card ain't that nice either: it ONLY supports 24bit visuals and any program
that only supports 8bit (aka pallet) pseudocolor (?) doesn't work :(

Suppose to be fast... an AGP/UPA-Creator predecessor..

>
>
> --Chris
>
> On 31 Mar 1999, Steve Dunham wrote:
>
> > Chris Trainor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I always wanted 24bit color for my sparc, till I found out the cheapest I
> > > could get a ZX framebuffer (or the one of the SS-5) was going to cost as
> > > much as my Sparc5 did... so, needles to say, I live with the ekky colors
> > > in X. :)
> >
> > The ZX is very slow in Linux.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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Re: 24bits and colors

[Chris Trainor]

Blah, that stinks.  What about the APx or whatever it is for the Sparc5?

--Chris


On 31 Mar 1999, Steve Dunham wrote:

> Chris Trainor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I always wanted 24bit color for my sparc, till I found out the cheapest I
> > could get a ZX framebuffer (or the one of the SS-5) was going to cost as
> > much as my Sparc5 did... so, needles to say, I live with the ekky colors
> > in X. :) 
> 
> The ZX is very slow in Linux.
> 
> 
> Steve
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Re: 24bits and colors

[Angel Martin Alganza]

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Joshua Uziel wrote:

> I've never tried it, but I'm surprised Xsun24 works at all for 
> you. :)  I doubt you'd save any memory... but I figure it would

It was working fine for me (except that I couldn't get 24bits color :)
Anyway... it had some crashes from time to time... I hope they disappear
now with Xsun... I'll let you know...

> be a good idea to run the native driver for your card.  Go for
> it... :)

Done! Xsun24 was taking 5436kb and Xsun takes 3648 right now... not
sure if it depends on the load it has (although I'm runing nearly the same
as beafore, included NetScape).

Angel

Re: kernel-package rules file patch for UltraSparc

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

Thanks. I have incorporated the patch in my CVS sources, and
 it should be in the next release (hopefully, I shall get unswamped
 enough to deal with debian stuff soonish).

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Re: 24bits and colors

[Steve Dunham]

Chris Trainor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I always wanted 24bit color for my sparc, till I found out the cheapest I
> could get a ZX framebuffer (or the one of the SS-5) was going to cost as
> much as my Sparc5 did... so, needles to say, I live with the ekky colors
> in X. :) 

The ZX is very slow in Linux.


Steve
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Re: 24bits and colors

[Joshua Uziel]

> Well... then.. does it make sense to unsintall Xsun24 and set up Xsun8
> instead? I've got only 32MB and it would be worth it if I save some memory
> with it.

I've never tried it, but I'm surprised Xsun24 works at all for 
you. :)  I doubt you'd save any memory... but I figure it would
be a good idea to run the native driver for your card.  Go for
it... :)

Re: 24bits and colors

[Joshua Uziel]

> > Heh... reminds me... don't even ask what this TurboGX cost me. :)
> > Oh well... at least X is usable now...
> > 
> > Sun hardware is expensive, but you get what you pay for...
> 
> 
> True, it's very nice even if ti dosnt' do 24bit color.  Eventually (like
> in the next 6 months) I want to get a Sparc20 and use the onboard SX
> video.. however most places that have 20's up for grabs adon't have the
> VSIMMs... :( 

I'll have to warn you, though... I have an SS20 in front of me
at work right now (my desktop machine here), and I have it 
dual-headed with a Turbo GX and an SX (the SX in 24-bit mode).

The SX is so slow in 24-bit mode than I wouldn't (and don't)
run anything more than Netscape and dtmail on it.  This is
permormance in Solaris BTW... I haven't tried Linux on this
machine (nor do I think I will ever get a chance to)... and
I wouldn't expect Linux's performance to be any better with
it.  If you don't mind slow (like cg3 slow) 24-bit graphics,
then go for it.

One other thing... I can't seem to find it now (maybe it's
been fixed/updated), but I remember seeing somewhere that
the cg14 (SX) was supported "in CG3 mode", or something like
that... which may mean an expensive and slow 8-bit card if
this is so...

Re: 24bits and colors

[Angel Martin Alganza]

Well... then.. does it make sense to unsintall Xsun24 and set up Xsun8
instead? I've got only 32MB and it would be worth it if I save some memory
with it.

Angel

Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Collins M. Ben]

On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 01:30:13PM -0500, Steve Dunham wrote:
> > Can you try this new patch I have (sparc32-chown.dpatch) and build on
> > the sparc 20? I've tries building this against 2.2.5 headers from vger
> > cvs and still had the same problems, so this is either not a kernel
> > issue or it's one that isn't fixed.
> 
> This isn't the problem. modprobe is locking up.  Whenever a module is
> autoloaded, the system locks up.  The last thing modprobe does is:
> 
>   SYS_66(
> 
> Which should be a 'vfork()'.  I'm not entirely sure what is going
> wrong here.  In the kernel vfork calls exactly the same code as fork
> (although the entry code is different in sparc64).  I would suspect a
> kernel problem, but the older version of libc works.

That's isn't a direct problem then since my LX has modules disabled.

> I'll add your patch to a fresh tree and try rebuilding. 

Ok.

Re: 24bits and colors

[Angel Martin Alganza]

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Joshua Uziel wrote:

> I had to look no further than the two characters "GX"... you
> have a CG6, which is accerelated 8-bit framebuffer, not capable
> of doing 24-bit graphics.  

Thanks a lot... I was getting crazy trying to find it out!

> My advice?  Live with it (still a decent framebuffer), and
> run netscape with the "-install" command-line option to give
> it it's own colormap...

Thanks again... I try that :)

Angel

Re: 24bits and colors

[Chris Trainor]

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Joshua Uziel wrote:

> 
> Heh... reminds me... don't even ask what this TurboGX cost me. :)
> Oh well... at least X is usable now...
> 
> Sun hardware is expensive, but you get what you pay for...


True, it's very nice even if ti dosnt' do 24bit color.  Eventually (like
in the next 6 months) I want to get a Sparc20 and use the onboard SX
video.. however most places that have 20's up for grabs adon't have the
VSIMMs... :( 
 
--Chris

Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Steve Dunham]

Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:21:05AM -0500, Steve Dunham wrote:

> > I know, I've been telling people this.  But there are a few apps that
> > manually acquire pty's instead of using the libc functions, so they
> > end up with oldstyle one - it works, but isn't aesthetically pleasing.

> Maybe we need to get a preinst script that checks for this?

It's not an issue. I just mean that xterm eventually needs to be
patched and recompiled for all platforms.  (I've pretty much given up
hope on X. It seems that Branden may have gone back to working on
3.3.2.3.)

> Can you try this new patch I have (sparc32-chown.dpatch) and build on
> the sparc 20? I've tries building this against 2.2.5 headers from vger
> cvs and still had the same problems, so this is either not a kernel
> issue or it's one that isn't fixed.

This isn't the problem. modprobe is locking up.  Whenever a module is
autoloaded, the system locks up.  The last thing modprobe does is:

  SYS_66(

Which should be a 'vfork()'.  I'm not entirely sure what is going
wrong here.  In the kernel vfork calls exactly the same code as fork
(although the entry code is different in sparc64).  I would suspect a
kernel problem, but the older version of libc works.


I'll add your patch to a fresh tree and try rebuilding. 



Steve
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Re: 24bits and colors

[Joshua Uziel]

Heh... reminds me... don't even ask what this TurboGX cost me. :)
Oh well... at least X is usable now...

Sun hardware is expensive, but you get what you pay for...

> I always wanted 24bit color for my sparc, till I found out the cheapest I
> could get a ZX framebuffer (or the one of the SS-5) was going to cost as
> much as my Sparc5 did... so, needles to say, I live with the ekky colors
> in X. :) 
>  
> --Chris

Re: 24bits and colors

[Chris Trainor]

I always wanted 24bit color for my sparc, till I found out the cheapest I
could get a ZX framebuffer (or the one of the SS-5) was going to cost as
much as my Sparc5 did... so, needles to say, I live with the ekky colors
in X. :) 
 
--Chris

Re: 24bits and colors

[Joshua Uziel]

I had to look no further than the two characters "GX"... you
have a CG6, which is accerelated 8-bit framebuffer, not capable
of doing 24-bit graphics.  

Finding a 24-bit framebuffer that'll work with Linux and
Solaris would be a chore.  I personally also have a CG6, 
though a Turbo GX, which is a bit faster (I've not done 
any benchmarks).  I also have a CG3 (slow 8-bit which is
sitting around collecting dust because it was too slow).

My advice?  Live with it (still a decent framebuffer), and
run netscape with the "-install" command-line option to give
it it's own colormap...

> > It would be helpful to know which framebuffer you have.  Even
> > some that are 24-bit capable I believe are currently supported
> > as doing 8-bit (which is 256 colors, BTW).
> 
> All info I can see is:
> 
> Sun GX AT&T 1134A2 9244 7495317
> BT-Bt458LP5110 RAMDAC 232 9242
> 
> Does it help?
> 
> > Look at http://www.geog.ubc.ca/s_linux.html and see if it tells
> > you anything.  At worst, if you don't know what card you have,
> > email me the part number (something like 501-), and I can
> > look it up for you.
> 
> Trying that...
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Angel
> 
> 
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Re: 24bits and colors

[Angel Martin Alganza]

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Joshua Uziel wrote:

> It would be helpful to know which framebuffer you have.  Even
> some that are 24-bit capable I believe are currently supported
> as doing 8-bit (which is 256 colors, BTW).

All info I can see is:

Sun GX AT&T 1134A2 9244 7495317
BT-Bt458LP5110 RAMDAC 232 9242

Does it help?

> Look at http://www.geog.ubc.ca/s_linux.html and see if it tells
> you anything.  At worst, if you don't know what card you have,
> email me the part number (something like 501-), and I can
> look it up for you.

Trying that...

Thanks a lot,
Angel

Re: 24bits and colors

[Joshua Uziel]

It would be helpful to know which framebuffer you have.  Even
some that are 24-bit capable I believe are currently supported
as doing 8-bit (which is 256 colors, BTW).

Look at http://www.geog.ubc.ca/s_linux.html and see if it tells
you anything.  At worst, if you don't know what card you have,
email me the part number (something like 501-), and I can
look it up for you.

> Hello!
> 
> I've successfully installed slink on my Sparcstation and am very happy
> with it, but I have a problem concerning colors under X. I am running the
> Xsun24 server, but have got only 16 colors... I'm afraid it is running on
> 8bits depth (am I right?). I've tried to change that, but I haven't got a
> XF86Config file neither a XF86Setup binary... Could some one let me know
> how to increase the number of colors on my display, please?
> 
> Thanks a lot for your interest,
> Angel

24bits and colors

[Angel Martin Alganza]

Hello!

I've successfully installed slink on my Sparcstation and am very happy
with it, but I have a problem concerning colors under X. I am running the
Xsun24 server, but have got only 16 colors... I'm afraid it is running on
8bits depth (am I right?). I've tried to change that, but I haven't got a
XF86Config file neither a XF86Setup binary... Could some one let me know
how to increase the number of colors on my display, please?

Thanks a lot for your interest,
Angel

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Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Joshua Uziel]

> I think so. :-)
> 
> Maybe to launch X Window on sparc that needs not only
>  /dev/fb?, but also /dev/fb[01]autodetect and
>  /dev/fd[01]user[0-7], don't you?

Hmm... well I don't have the autodetect or user devices
and things seem to be working fine for me.  Which document
are you seeing those devices in?  I document I mentioned
before (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt I think
it was) didn't mention the autodetect or user devices...

Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Joshua Uziel]

> That's interesting, given that /dev/fb* were all mode 664 root/root for me
> already.  Is your /usr/X11R6/bin/X setuid root?  (Not the X server itself,
> but the wrapper therefor.)

[9:33am] sparcy:~> ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/X
-rwsr-xr-x   1 root root 4952 Feb 23 23:01 /usr/X11R6/bin/X

So yeah, it is... /dev/fb* came to me as root:root and 622.  
Perhaps 664 is more appropriate... I'll try it when I get
home tonight.

> I use xdm instead of startx, though.

Heheh... yeah, I've always sort of liked booting to the console.
Also, I think the 128x54 you get on the console of an S/Linux
box is beautful... blows away an x86's normal 80x25, and I'm
not even gonna mention the nasty black on white you get in
Solaris (oops, just did). :)

Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Joel Klecker]

At 08:46 -0500 1999-03-31, Ben Collins wrote:

On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:21:05AM -0500, Steve Dunham wrote:

> Glibc 2.1 has a problem with having the /dev/ptmx device present and
> devpts not being mounted. If /dev/ptmx is presend then create /dev/pts
> and mount devpts there or it wont work right.

I know, I've been telling people this.  But there are a few apps that
manually acquire pty's instead of using the libc functions, so they
end up with oldstyle one - it works, but isn't aesthetically pleasing.


Maybe we need to get a preinst script that checks for this?


I have a better solution already, I wrote an init script that deals 
with mounting devpts if the kernel supports it, or removing /dev/ptmx 
if it doesn't.

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Re: getting pppconfig to work right

[Jake Griesbach]

I tried to use ppp on my Sparc 1+ and was fairly disappointed at the
performance.  Maybe you will want to reconsider using your Sparc box as a
ppp dialup box...  The serial code in the linux kernel is somewhat less
than ideal, since any baud rates greater than 9600 baud give plenty of
kernel serial input overrun errors (even more when the box has significant
load).  This is also due to the serial controllers on the Sparc 1+ being
fairly outdated.  (However, I didn't have any problem running SunOS 4.1.3
at 38400 baud rates.)  You may just try playing around with minicom some
before trying pppd just to see if you experience the same thing that I
did.

Good Luck,

Jake Griesbach


On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Harold Hartley wrote:

> Hi, I'm sure others have had the same problem before...
> I have installed the boot floppies and now trying to setup what I need to
> dial into my isp to install the packages I need for my linux setup...
> I am on a sparc 1+ with slink...
> any help with scripts or something is most helpful..
> 
> Thanks
> Harold
> 
> 
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Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Ben Collins]

On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:21:05AM -0500, Steve Dunham wrote:
> > Glibc 2.1 has a problem with having the /dev/ptmx device present and
> > devpts not being mounted. If /dev/ptmx is presend then create /dev/pts
> > and mount devpts there or it wont work right.
>
> I know, I've been telling people this.  But there are a few apps that
> manually acquire pty's instead of using the libc functions, so they
> end up with oldstyle one - it works, but isn't aesthetically pleasing.

Maybe we need to get a preinst script that checks for this?

> > Do you have a non Ultra system to test this on? My ultra works fine,
> > but my LX doesn't reboot (as reported by some one else aswell).
>
> My SS20 seems to have locked up.  (After I installed the deb's I cd'd
> to /proc/openprom and typed "ls".)  This may just be a kernel issue,
> I'll have to wait till I get to work to find out what's wrong.  (Ping
> works, tcp connections are established, but nothing comes back.)

The exact same symptoms I have on my LX. I'm wondering if the Glibc
(for some odd reason) needs to be built on a regular sparc or if this
is just a kernel issue. I used the sparc kernel headers and the latest
egcs from potato, but built it on my Ultra since building it killed my
LX at the same point in the build everytime with an instant reboot.

Can you try this new patch I have (sparc32-chown.dpatch) and build on
the sparc 20? I've tries building this against 2.2.5 headers from vger
cvs and still had the same problems, so this is either not a kernel
issue or it's one that isn't fixed.

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Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Hiroshi Naraki]

Joshua Uziel wrote on Wed, 31 Mar 1999 02:57:14 -0800 (PST)
> 
> > > Also, I wasn't able to run X as a non-root users until I ran
> > > "chmod 666 /dev/fb?" as root as well, and you may have to do
> > > the same.  Took me a while to figure this one out, along
> > > with the fact that strace would segfault when I'd try to run
> > > "strace startx" either as myself or root.
> > 
> > MAKEDEV isn't work well...
> > 
> > You must make also /dev/fb[01]autodetect and
> > /dev/fd[01]user[0-7]. And set right permission.
> 
> Hmm... I see no mention of them in 
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt, and even then
> my devices seem to be correct:
> 
> [2:43am] sparcy:~> ls -l /dev/f*
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,   0 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb0
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  32 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb1
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  64 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb2
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  96 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb3
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 128 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb4
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 160 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb5
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 192 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb6
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 224 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb7
> brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   0 Feb 20 15:21 /dev/fd0
> brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   1 Feb 20 15:21 /dev/fd1
> crw--w--w-   1 root root   1,   7 Feb 20 15:21 /dev/full
> 
> This is after I ran "chmod 666 /dev/fd?" of course... and 
> /dev/fb7 is listed to be minor 240 even though 224 looks right
> to me.  Whatever, not like I'm gonna touch it. :)  I did
> nothing else special (besides the link to /dev/mouse).

I think so. :-)

Maybe to launch X Window on sparc that needs not only
 /dev/fb?, but also /dev/fb[01]autodetect and
 /dev/fd[01]user[0-7], don't you?

my devices are...:

$ ls -l /dev/f*
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,   0 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  32 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb1
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  64 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb2
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  96 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb3
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 128 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb4
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 160 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb5
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 192 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb6
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 224 Feb 21 08:36 /dev/fb7
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,   1 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbautodetect
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  24 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  25 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser1
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  26 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser2
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  27 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser3
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  28 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser4
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  29 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser5
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  30 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser6
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  31 Mar 29 21:34 /dev/fbuser7
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   0 Feb 21 08:21 /dev/fd0
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   1 Feb 21 08:21 /dev/fd1
crw--w--w-   1 root root   1,   7 Feb 21 08:21 /dev/full

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Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[J. S. Connell]

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Joshua Uziel wrote:

> Also, I wasn't able to run X as a non-root users until I ran
> "chmod 666 /dev/fb?" as root as well, and you may have to do
> the same.  Took me a while to figure this one out, along
> with the fact that strace would segfault when I'd try to run
> "strace startx" either as myself or root.

That's interesting, given that /dev/fb* were all mode 664 root/root for me
already.  Is your /usr/X11R6/bin/X setuid root?  (Not the X server itself,
but the wrapper therefor.)

I use xdm instead of startx, though.

--Jeff

Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Joshua Uziel]

> > Also, I wasn't able to run X as a non-root users until I ran
> > "chmod 666 /dev/fb?" as root as well, and you may have to do
> > the same.  Took me a while to figure this one out, along
> > with the fact that strace would segfault when I'd try to run
> > "strace startx" either as myself or root.
> 
> MAKEDEV isn't work well...
> 
> You must make also /dev/fb[01]autodetect and
> /dev/fd[01]user[0-7]. And set right permission.

Hmm... I see no mention of them in 
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt, and even then
my devices seem to be correct:

[2:43am] sparcy:~> ls -l /dev/f*
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,   0 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  32 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb1
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  64 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb2
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29,  96 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb3
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 128 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb4
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 160 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb5
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 192 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb6
crw-rw-rw-   1 root tty   29, 224 Feb 20 15:36 /dev/fb7
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   0 Feb 20 15:21 /dev/fd0
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   1 Feb 20 15:21 /dev/fd1
crw--w--w-   1 root root   1,   7 Feb 20 15:21 /dev/full

This is after I ran "chmod 666 /dev/fd?" of course... and 
/dev/fb7 is listed to be minor 240 even though 224 looks right
to me.  Whatever, not like I'm gonna touch it. :)  I did
nothing else special (besides the link to /dev/mouse).

Don't know what to say other than "it worked for me".  I'm 
new to Debian and new to Linux on a Sparc (but not new to
Linux or Sparcs), and figured I'd share what worked for me... 
... good luck... :)

Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Hiroshi Naraki]

Joshua Uziel wrote on Wed, 31 Mar 1999 01:12:32 -0800 (PST)
> Also, I wasn't able to run X as a non-root users until I ran
> "chmod 666 /dev/fb?" as root as well, and you may have to do
> the same.  Took me a while to figure this one out, along
> with the fact that strace would segfault when I'd try to run
> "strace startx" either as myself or root.

MAKEDEV isn't work well...

You must make also /dev/fb[01]autodetect and
/dev/fd[01]user[0-7]. And set right permission.

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Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Hiroshi Naraki]

Joel Rowbottom wrote on Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:55:17 +0100
> Just braving the world of X11 with the Sparc but it doesn't want to find
> /dev/mouse - is this meant to be a symlink to elsewhere?

Hi, I've installed slink-sparc to SS20 yesterday.
I've got same problem.It must link to /dev/sunmouse.
and needs to mknod some frame buffer devices.  
Kernel documents(devices.txt ...) are good guide. 

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Re: /dev/mouse not found?

[Joshua Uziel]

> Just braving the world of X11 with the Sparc but it doesn't want to find
> /dev/mouse - is this meant to be a symlink to elsewhere?

Yeah, as root, you have to "ln -s /dev/sunmouse /dev/mouse".

Also, I wasn't able to run X as a non-root users until I ran
"chmod 666 /dev/fb?" as root as well, and you may have to do
the same.  Took me a while to figure this one out, along
with the fact that strace would segfault when I'd try to run
"strace startx" either as myself or root.

Good luck. :)

/dev/mouse not found?

[Joel Rowbottom]

Hi folks --

Just braving the world of X11 with the Sparc but it doesn't want to find
/dev/mouse - is this meant to be a symlink to elsewhere?

Cheers,


J.


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Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Steve Dunham]

Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 10:36:58PM -0500, Steve Dunham wrote:

> > I've installed this on an Ultra5.  Seems to work fine.  Survived a
> > reboot.  Some minor problems that need to be fixed in other apps
> > (xterms end up using ttyp? instead of pts/?).  BTW, the pts stuff is
> > enabled for sparc in the 2.2.5 kernel.

> Glibc 2.1 has a problem with having the /dev/ptmx device present and
> devpts not being mounted. If /dev/ptmx is presend then create /dev/pts
> and mount devpts there or it wont work right.

I know, I've been telling people this.  But there are a few apps that
manually acquire pty's instead of using the libc functions, so they
end up with oldstyle one - it works, but isn't aesthetically pleasing.

> Do you have a non Ultra system to test this on? My ultra works fine,
> but my LX doesn't reboot (as reported by some one else aswell).

My SS20 seems to have locked up.  (After I installed the deb's I cd'd
to /proc/openprom and typed "ls".)  This may just be a kernel issue,
I'll have to wait till I get to work to find out what's wrong.  (Ping
works, tcp connections are established, but nothing comes back.)


Steve
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Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Ben Collins]

On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 10:36:58PM -0500, Steve Dunham wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > http://master.debian.org/~bcollins/glibc
>
> > diffs are there aswell.
>
> > Please test this, it works fine for me. I would also like someone who
> > has access to a sparc RedHat box to compile something with this libc
> > and see if it runs fine on that box.
>
> I've installed this on an Ultra5.  Seems to work fine.  Survived a
> reboot.  Some minor problems that need to be fixed in other apps
> (xterms end up using ttyp? instead of pts/?).  BTW, the pts stuff is
> enabled for sparc in the 2.2.5 kernel.

Glibc 2.1 has a problem with having the /dev/ptmx device present and
devpts not being mounted. If /dev/ptmx is presend then create /dev/pts
and mount devpts there or it wont work right.

Do you have a non Ultra system to test this on? My ultra works fine,
but my LX doesn't reboot (as reported by some one else aswell).

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Re: glibc 2.1 is now on master in my homedir

[Steve Dunham]

Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> http://master.debian.org/~bcollins/glibc

> diffs are there aswell.

> Please test this, it works fine for me. I would also like someone who
> has access to a sparc RedHat box to compile something with this libc
> and see if it runs fine on that box.

I've installed this on an Ultra5.  Seems to work fine.  Survived a
reboot.  Some minor problems that need to be fixed in other apps
(xterms end up using ttyp? instead of pts/?).  BTW, the pts stuff is
enabled for sparc in the 2.2.5 kernel.

On the plus side - ssh works on the sparc with glibc 2.1.1-0.1.1 but
not on the x86 with glibc 2.1.1-0.1 (SIGPIPE) - go figure.


Steve
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getting pppconfig to work right

[Harold Hartley]

Hi, I'm sure others have had the same problem before...
I have installed the boot floppies and now trying to setup what I need to
dial into my isp to install the packages I need for my linux setup...
I am on a sparc 1+ with slink...
any help with scripts or something is most helpful..

Thanks
Harold