RE: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
it didn't show on mine either when i installed last month or so.. i only found out about it after reading the archives on this list > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Mosiejczuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 December 1999 22:13 > To: Detlev Zundel > Cc: Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink) > > > On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Detlev Zundel wrote: > > > It is indeed `s' as I managed to write a Sun label by now - but it does > > still not occurr in the help. > > The thing is, I remember it being there (on the help). Cause I > wouldn't have > known which one to use otherwise... So, I'd like to find out why > it doesn't > show on yours. > > --Kurt > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Detlev Zundel wrote: > It is indeed `s' as I managed to write a Sun label by now - but it does > still not occurr in the help. The thing is, I remember it being there (on the help). Cause I wouldn't have known which one to use otherwise... So, I'd like to find out why it doesn't show on yours. --Kurt
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote: > That's weird. Let me check and make sure it's 's', but I JUST installed > slink on an IPC within the past day or two and I KNOW it listed the new > sun disklabel option. And my version of slink is the official CDs, like > 2.1r0, so unless it was "patched" out of existence recently, it should be > there... > > --Kurt It is indeed `s' as I managed to write a Sun label by now - but it does still not occurr in the help. I took the image files from our german ftp mirror... But alas I still cannot boot from the hard disk although I now /have/ a ext2 partition starting at 0 and I also have a whole_disk partition - but OpenBoot still says `sd(0) not ready'. At least silo did not give any warnings but configured correctly... I am just installing the rest by now before I continue to check up on that silo thingy... Cheers Detlev -- The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's, must be beautiful; the ideas, like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics. -- G. H. Hardy
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Detlev Zundel wrote: > Hmm the joke is on me I guess. Just because I wanted fdisk to actually > /print/ `s' in the help before trying it out, I never made it to that > point. Sure someone else mentioned `s' before but it did not occurr to me > that one needs a /hidden feature/ to get things rolling. That's weird. Let me check and make sure it's 's', but I JUST installed slink on an IPC within the past day or two and I KNOW it listed the new sun disklabel option. And my version of slink is the official CDs, like 2.1r0, so unless it was "patched" out of existence recently, it should be there... --Kurt
Sparc boots now from SD! Many thanks
I finally succeeded with my boot problem and Debian is now booting from my SD. I never saw the 's' option in fdisk (it was hidden) and the list of known partition types which comes up using the 'l' command was not listing anything with 'Sun' in it. I low-level formatted the disk using my Mac and tried a new installation of Debian. This time fdisk came up with a whole bunch of possible 'Sun' partitions right at the startup and the 's' parameter was now not hidden anymore. Many thanks for all your help. Manfred
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: > > What exactly do I need to put a Sun disk label on my disk? Solaris?? I > > hope not :) > > You can do it with fdisk. It's in the manual: > > http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/sparc/ch-init-config.en.html#s-dbootstrap-partition > > (Does dbootstrap in potato make this any more foolproof?) Hmm the joke is on me I guess. Just because I wanted fdisk to actually /print/ `s' in the help before trying it out, I never made it to that point. Sure someone else mentioned `s' before but it did not occurr to me that one needs a /hidden feature/ to get things rolling. I can't tell about dbootstrap in potato but the one in slink happily initialized the swap partition and the existing filesystem without even /hinting/ at problems. Ok, ok, I missed the bit in the docs, I confess. It might be that I even read them but forgot about them as (nearly) everything worked out. Thanks anyway - but if fdisk in potato still does not mention `s' in its help I will file a bug against it. Cheers Detlev -- The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's, must be beautiful; the ideas, like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics. -- G. H. Hardy
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
> What exactly do I need to put a Sun disk label on my disk? Solaris?? I > hope not :) You can do it with fdisk. It's in the manual: http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/sparc/ch-init-config.en.html#s-dbootstrap-partition (Does dbootstrap in potato make this any more foolproof?) Edmund
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote: > You'll need to put a new disk label on the drive. The OpenBoot PROM > expects a Sun disk label. Otherwise you can't boot from it. The kernel > will still understand the i386 disk label fine, but I assume you'd like > to be able to boot it. This is probably what is causing your problems > with SILO, cause I bet SILO assumes a sun disk label and gets rather confused. > > I believe it's option s to put a new sun disk label in fdisk. Try that. Hmm, I just checked with the fdisk that's on the machine right now. There's `b' for a Bsd label, `o' for a DOS table and `g' for an IRIX partition but nothing like a Sun disk label. I did look for this the first time around but as I couldn't find it then I just went ahead. What exactly do I need to put a Sun disk label on my disk? Solaris?? I hope not :) Thanks Detlev -- vi vi vi - the roman numeral of the beast.
Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Detlev Zundel wrote: > Hi, > > I ran this against `debian-user' but to no avail. So I'll try again > at this more specific place. Thanks for any help... > > I just got hold of an old Sparc IPC that nobody used anymore and tried > to install Debian on it after swapping the defective first hard disk > with an old scsi disk lying around (with an old i386 Debian on it..) > > > I am also a bit confused about the "whole disk" partition memtioned in > the (short) silo docs. As my disk was used on i386 Debian before I > left the partitioning alone /dev/sda1 -> /, /dev/sda2 -> swap (both > primary partitions). Did I miss something here? > > When I now boot with the newly created boot floppy, I tried entering > `sd(0)/vmlinuz' at the prompt but OpenBoot complained about sd0 not > responding. I thought I should be able to boot a kernel on sda1 at > the silo prompt. Is this not so? > You'll need to put a new disk label on the drive. The OpenBoot PROM expects a Sun disk label. Otherwise you can't boot from it. The kernel will still understand the i386 disk label fine, but I assume you'd like to be able to boot it. This is probably what is causing your problems with SILO, cause I bet SILO assumes a sun disk label and gets rather confused. I believe it's option s to put a new sun disk label in fdisk. Try that. --Kurt
Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)
Hi, I ran this against `debian-user' but to no avail. So I'll try again at this more specific place. Thanks for any help... I just got hold of an old Sparc IPC that nobody used anymore and tried to install Debian on it after swapping the defective first hard disk with an old scsi disk lying around (with an old i386 Debian on it..) The installation worked quite well (it /is/ fun seeing tux for the first time on a Sun..) until silo run. It complains that I have to push down /boot/second.b into an area below the magic 1GB boundary. But how can I do this when I only have a 512MB disk :) ?? I even checked with debugfs and (after some shifting around) managed to get /boot/second.b to be in the first 1000 blocks. I don't think I can move it any farther to the beginning. So it seems to be something more obvious. I am also a bit confused about the "whole disk" partition memtioned in the (short) silo docs. As my disk was used on i386 Debian before I left the partitioning alone /dev/sda1 -> /, /dev/sda2 -> swap (both primary partitions). Did I miss something here? When I now boot with the newly created boot floppy, I tried entering `sd(0)/vmlinuz' at the prompt but OpenBoot complained about sd0 not responding. I thought I should be able to boot a kernel on sda1 at the silo prompt. Is this not so? I also tried booting with the 2.2.1 kernel but then neither tux displayed correctly nor was the text mode initialized correctly. Was this to be expected?? Can I expect better performance with a newer kernel? My disk seems to crawl to a standstill when writing. I think I read something about this somewhere... Thanks for the help and please CC me as I am not subscribed to debian-sparc. Cheers Detlev -- LISP has survived for 21 years because it is an approximate local optimum in the space of programming languages. -- John McCarthy (1980)
Re: hardware question: power supply rating for sparc 5
150W is correct. The reason why most PC's have bigger supplies is because you can put a lot more stuff in them generally. Also, many of the 200W PC power supplies i've run into wont' run at 200W for too long. :) --Chris On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, John Davis wrote: > Hello > > I thought someone here might know this question. What is the standard > power supply rating for a sparc 5. I recently purchased a sparc 5 for > use with Debian and I was surprised that it only had a 150W power > supply. Is that normal? > Most PC's come with a 200W or 250W power supply. > > John > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
hardware question: power supply rating for sparc 5
Hello I thought someone here might know this question. What is the standard power supply rating for a sparc 5. I recently purchased a sparc 5 for use with Debian and I was surprised that it only had a 150W power supply. Is that normal? Most PC's come with a 200W or 250W power supply. John
Re: Still probelms to boot from SD
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > /dev/sda1 0 1100396000 83 Linux native > > > /dev/sda2 u 1100 1151 18360 82 Linux swap > > > /dev/sda3 0 11514143600 Empt > > The "u" is "unmountable". No idea why, but it exists, as a flag, on SunOS > as well. > > To the original poster, are you sure that you are formatting the disk on a > Sparc Linux box? Yep. That Sparc was purchased second-hand with an unbootable Solaris/SunOS system on it. After mounting the original partition and poking around I removed all the partitions except sda3 and repartitioned it with fdisk from the slink floppy install set. -- Ferret no baka
Re: Still probelms to boot from SD
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > /dev/sda1 0 1100396000 83 Linux native > > /dev/sda2 u 1100 1151 18360 82 Linux swap > > /dev/sda3 0 11514143600 Empt > > > So why is the swap partition marked as read only? This is what the u flag > designates, I believe. Swap seems to work if it is set as read only or > without the flag. I have the swap flagless on a SPARC10. Just for cleanness > and that Debian uses it anyway and ignores the read only flag? > > Just curious I really don't know. That's how the Slink installer's fdisk set it up when I did the partitioning. All I can say is that it works. -- Ferret no baka (6/7th-clued Sparc newbie)
Re: Still probelms to boot from SD
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > /dev/sda1 0 1100396000 83 Linux native > > /dev/sda2 u 1100 1151 18360 82 Linux swap > > /dev/sda3 0 11514143600 Empt The "u" is "unmountable". No idea why, but it exists, as a flag, on SunOS as well. To the original poster, are you sure that you are formatting the disk on a Sparc Linux box? Regards, Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta Tel: +91(11) 6941831, 6946619 Eurolink Systems LtdFax: +91(11) 6943732 New Delhi, India email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurolink doesn't pay me to speak for it, so I don't Old age is not an accomplishment, nor youth a sin
Re: browsers under X?
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Jokker wrote: > I was just wondering what browsers for X existed for sparclinux? I am using netscape, from ftp.netscape.org. The others (amaya/chimera...) were either not feature rich enough or very unstable 6 months ago. Sanjeev "Ghane" Gupta Tel: +91(11) 6941831, 6946619 Eurolink Systems LtdFax: +91(11) 6943732 New Delhi, India email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurolink doesn't pay me to speak for it, so I don't Old age is not an accomplishment, nor youth a sin
Re: Still probelms to boot from SD
In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > /dev/sda1 0 1100396000 83 Linux native > /dev/sda2 u 1100 1151 18360 82 Linux swap > /dev/sda3 0 11514143600 Empt So why is the swap partition marked as read only? This is what the u flag designates, I believe. Swap seems to work if it is set as read only or without the flag. I have the swap flagless on a SPARC10. Just for cleanness and that Debian uses it anyway and ignores the read only flag? Just curious Jesse Molina-Lanners[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phoenix Arizona
