Need help [Fwd: Bug#52468: wml: undefined symbol: PL_sv_undef at /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/sparc-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 169.]

1999-12-14 Thread Brian Bassett
Hello,

I got this bug report, and I'm not quite sure whether this is a Perl
problem, a Sparc problem, a Perl on Sparc problem, an autobuilder
problem, or what.  This works for me on an i386.

Please cc me, as I don't subscribe to either of these lists.

Thanks for your help,

Brian Bassett

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Package: wml
> Version: 1.7.4-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Example session, from english/logos area of Debian web site CVS area:
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:logos> make
> wml -q -o UNDEFuEN:index.en.html   index.wml
> Can't load '/usr/lib/wml/perl/lib/5.005/sparc-linux/auto/IO/IO.so' for module 
> IO: /usr/lib/wml/perl/lib/5.005/sparc-linux/auto/IO/IO.so: undefined symbol: 
> PL_sv_undef at /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/sparc-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 169.
> 
>  at /usr/lib/wml/perl/lib/5.005/sparc-linux/IO/Handle.pm line 241
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> /usr/lib/wml/perl/lib/5.005/sparc-linux/IO/Handle.pm line 241.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> /usr/lib/wml/perl/lib/5.005/sparc-linux/IO/Seekable.pm line 51.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> /usr/lib/wml/perl/lib/5.005/sparc-linux/IO/File.pm line 112.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/wml line 55.
> make: *** [index.en.html] Error 2
> 
> -- System Information
> Debian Release: potato
> Kernel Version: Linux arroz 2.2.13 #7 Wed Nov 3 12:56:22 EST 1999 sparc64 
> unknown
> 
> Versions of the packages wml depends on:
> ii  eperl   2.2.14-0.6 Embedded Perl 5 Language
> ii  iselect 1.2.0-3An interactive line selection tool for 
> ASCII
> ii  libc6   2.1.2-8GNU C Library: Shared libraries and 
> timezone
> ii  m4  1.4-10 a macro processing language
> ii  perl-5.005  5.005.03-4 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and 
> Report
> ii  slice   1.3.4-3Extract out pre-defined slices of an ASCII 
> f


fdisk and native partition formats (was: Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink))

1999-12-14 Thread Eric Delaunay
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
> Eric Delaunay wrote:
> > Hmm, this thread is too repetitive.  I propose to fix the installer to 
> > enfore a
> > Sun disklabel on the disk.
> > I guess it could be fixed in either 2 ways:
> > - add some obscure option to fdisk telling it to treat non Sun disklabel the
> >   same way as blank disk
> > - or check for a Sun disklabel before calling fdisk, zeroes the partition 
> > table
> >   if not found, then call fdisk.
> 
> I don't like either of these, because it is possible that someone
> really does want to keep the old partition table. People use
> installation media for all sorts of things. The other day I saw a
> colleague here rescuing an NT machine with a broken partition table by
> using a Red Hat installation CD for example ...
> 
> I think:
> 
>  - the 's' option should always be visible in fdisk

In fact it is already documented in potato fdisk menu.

>  - dbootstrap should check for a Sun disk label after calling fdisk
> and issue a warning if it doesn't find one, something like:
> "/dev/whatever appears not to have a Sun disk label. This means you
> will not be able to boot directly from this disk. You can create a Sun
> disk label with the option 's' in fdisk." with options to continue or
> run fdisk again. (But I can't remember at the moment how these
> messages are usually phrased; I'd have to look at the context again ...)
> 
> Edmund

I like this idea more than my proposal.
However, I'd also want to check for valid Sun disk label before running fdisk,
then issuing the warning here.  This will give the user more informations on
how to proceed instead of doing wrong the first time then forced to partition
again.
Of course, if the disk does not contains a disk label at all or one which is
already of Sun type, this message will not be displayed and fdisk will be run
immediately.
It will be checked again after fdisk has existed, like you describe, to be sure
the user is knowing what it does.
Well, I would implement it asap.

Btw, how other arches (alpha, ppc, m68k, ...) are supposed to work with non
native partition formats ?  Is there a need for such a scheme for them ?
Or is it just an artifact of sparc fdisk that also support i386 partitions?

Regards.

-- 
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missing keys in X11

1999-12-14 Thread Volker Gülke
Hello everybody,
I have a SUN SPARCstation 10 running with debian slink and problems with
missing keys under X11. The dmesg shows me that I am using a "SUN Type 5
keyboard without keyclick" in a German version. My problem is now, that I'm
missing the "< > |" symbols which are located on the same key (keynumber
124 - taken from showkey).

My questions are now:
- where is the correct configuration file for my keyboard?
- which are the correct parameters I need to add for the three keys above?
- is there somebody who have a complete defined keytable for X and a German
SUN Type 5 keyboard who might send it to me?

Regards,
Volker


Re: Netscape for SPARC

1999-12-14 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 04:11:57PM +0100, Volker Gülke wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I have a Debian SPARC on a SPARCstation 10 installed. Now I'm looking for a
> good Webbrowser. I hear that there is (or was) a Version of Netscape
> available for SPARC Linux. Can somebody tell me a place where I can
> download it or recommend another good browser?
> Regards,
> Volker

The current mozilla package in potato (version M11) runs pretty well, but
if you want the commercial netscape, you will have to build the netscape
package from slink on sparc.

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Netscape for SPARC

1999-12-14 Thread Volker Gülke
Hello everybody,
I have a Debian SPARC on a SPARCstation 10 installed. Now I'm looking for a
good Webbrowser. I hear that there is (or was) a Version of Netscape
available for SPARC Linux. Can somebody tell me a place where I can
download it or recommend another good browser?
Regards,
Volker


Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-14 Thread Detlev Zundel
Hi,

thanks to the quick help from this list I managed to get my IPC
working by now.  Even the booting problem is resolved.

For the (improbable) case that someone else experiences similar
problems I'll give a short summary:

As I remembered seeing the IPC trying to boot from sd(0,0,0) when the
internal disk was defect I installed the new disk with SCSI-ID 0.  I
was able to boot from disk and install everything but OpenBoot firmly
rejected to see the disk at boot time.  In the end I rejumpered it to
ID 1 and by now I can boot from hard disk...  Was this my stupidity or
is this normal??

Ah - this reminds me - the explanation of "hiding" the online help for
the fdisk `s' command seems completely besides the point to me.  Why
shouldn't we then hide the man-page for `rm' or other potential
dangerous things??  Is the consensus of this list that this is ok or
should I file a bug report against fdisk?

Ok, I have two remaining problems:

The 2.0.34 kernel initialized the text mode correctly as opposed to
the 2.2.13 kernel.  The difference can be seen in the log messages:

2.0.34 kernel:
Dec  9 22:37:23 poc kernel: Console: 16 point font, 864 scans 
Dec  9 22:37:23 poc kernel: Console: mono SUN 128x54, 1 virtual console (max 63)

2.2.13 kernel:
Dec 14 12:55:12 poc kernel: Console: colour dummy device 80x25

How can I get the new kernel to do the same initialization?  The
difference for me is that I cannot see the leftmost 4 characters on
each line... (and the Sun btw supports no color)


The other problem is to get X running - As the IPC uses the BWtwo
framebuffer I thought I could fix it by applying the patch from the
Ultralinux FAQ to the kernel but the patch is already in there.  So
I'll better show how X fails:


PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).


I have the xfonts-pex package installed which owns a file
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/Roman_M.phont'.  Unfortunately I cannot
strace the X server as strace dies like this:

open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 3
open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3
open("/etc/X11/Xserver", O_RDONLY)  = 3
syscall: unknown syscall trap 9c23a018 e0002cc0


Although this is probably a debian-user question I dare to ask
here

Thanks for any help
  Detlev

P.S: Please CC me as I am not subscribed to debian-sparc

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Keyboard problem (kernel 2.2.7)

1999-12-14 Thread Sven Hartrumpf
Hi all.

I am using the experimental disks from
ftp://lix.polytechnique.fr/pub/Linux/debian/sparc/exp/disks-sparc/current
as recommended in http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/problems .

I try to install from disks on a Sparc 1+ (on SUN prompt, I enter
b fd(2,0) ) with correctly recognized Sun Type 5 Keyboard (no mouse).
The rescue disk works, but when I am prompted to enter the "root floppy",
the RETURN key has no effect.
Strangely, the SPACE key continues the dboostrap procedure where I fail
because other keys are garbled too.

Any ideas?
Sven


Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-14 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
> Hmm, this thread is too repetitive.  I propose to fix the installer to enfore 
> a
> Sun disklabel on the disk.
> I guess it could be fixed in either 2 ways:
> - add some obscure option to fdisk telling it to treat non Sun disklabel the
>   same way as blank disk
> - or check for a Sun disklabel before calling fdisk, zeroes the partition 
> table
>   if not found, then call fdisk.

I don't like either of these, because it is possible that someone
really does want to keep the old partition table. People use
installation media for all sorts of things. The other day I saw a
colleague here rescuing an NT machine with a broken partition table by
using a Red Hat installation CD for example ...

I think:

 - the 's' option should always be visible in fdisk

 - dbootstrap should check for a Sun disk label after calling fdisk
and issue a warning if it doesn't find one, something like:
"/dev/whatever appears not to have a Sun disk label. This means you
will not be able to boot directly from this disk. You can create a Sun
disk label with the option 's' in fdisk." with options to continue or
run fdisk again. (But I can't remember at the moment how these
messages are usually phrased; I'd have to look at the context again ...)

Edmund


Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-14 Thread LannerHawk
In a message dated 12/13/99 4:15:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I guess it could be fixed in either 2 ways:
>  - add some obscure option to fdisk telling it to treat non Sun disklabel 
the
>same way as blank disk
>  
>  not a bad idea
>  
>  - or check for a Sun disklabel before calling fdisk, zeroes the partition 
> table
>if not found, then call fdisk.
>  
>  VERY bad idea.  I would think that modifying the disk before someone says 
>  "yes, change the partition table"  is the Wring Thing (tm).




Agreed.  I had this problem first hand being a SPARC hardware newbie a few 
months back.  It took me awhile to figure this out by myself before I could 
boot from disk.

Simply make the "s" option always visible.  I see no circumstances where you 
would want it not user visible anyway.  You can ALWAYS use it, just not 
always see it as an option.

Remember what distribution this is and the platform.  I use Debian on the 
SPARC because I want to get down and dirty with this thing.  You do not 
exactly go down to your local Radio Shack or Best Buy to get a SPARCstation.  
Give the options to the user.





Jesse Molina-Lanners[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phoenix Arizona