Re: SLC nfsroot install report (Re: ANN: new boot disks to test)

2000-01-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:51:48AM +0100, Joost Kooij wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
 
  Ok, at http://xia01.kachinatech.com/~buildd/sparc-2.2.14-potato-boot/current
  you will find the latest set of boot disks.
 
 They work!  Yay!

Excellent, thank you for the rather extensive report. I'll try to address
each problem. Most of these I already noticed. I also succesfully
installed from NFSROOT to an NFSROOT on this UltraSPARC. What I really
need to add is an option to mount an NFS for the target, that we you wont
have to do it manually.

 resumes from the break, the kernel detects the keyboard.  Could this be a
 submodel problem or a particular hardware problem? (I did once replace a
 dead buffer ic on the SLC's mainboard to get the keyboard working at all.)
 My prom version is reported a 1.4 on the prom banner.

Not sure, I'll have to check into that one.

 I got the tftpboot.img in place in /tftpboot, set up rarp entries and
 booted the SLC from the net.  It failed to even boot and died with
 Illegal Instruction.

This might be because of the decompression required. You were right to use
the linux-a.out images.

 
 I configured the keyboard and got another error: it couldn't create a
 file.  The problem turned out to be the fact the root fs was mounted ro.
 mount /dev/root / -n -o remount,rw fixed that.  After repeating the
 keyboard setup, it seemed to stick (well, not really as it wanted to
 configure the keyboard again upon first reboot of the base system.)

I think I have this fixed, and it shouldn't be a problem in the next set.

 On another note, the prom console is S L O W , especially on a SLC.  
 Running top on the console takes 75% system resources..  I'm lucky to
 have owned a Commodore 64 and to have once been amazed at the speed of the
 1541 disk drive.  It made sitting through the install a little more
 bearable ;-)

The sun4cdm kernel should use the framebuffer console. Hopefully it is a
little faster than the PROM console.

 The menu selection is slightly off:  there is no reverse video bar, just a
 cursor that appears one line too high.  Only the module configuration
 dialogs get it right, although it too has quirks, the screen is cleared
 twice inbetween screens (takes a long time on my machine, so I noticed
 that particularly.)

This is probably because of the black-on-white of the console, while
dboostrap is expecting white-on-black. Not sure if there is a way around
this. The slink boot floppies use to have color not color choice at
the start of dbootstrap.

 Generally, http proxy failed, because a DNS name resolution is attempted
 on the hostname in the url to be requested at the proxy.  I'm behind
 (several) firewalls and cannot resolve external hosts.  I had to download
 using netscape and put the files on a local http server.

The http install method is rather new. I'm sure it can use some cleaning
up and enhancing.

 could not find /etc/inittab.  Upon inspection on the nfs-server, I found a
 file /etc/inittab.real instead.  I renamed it and booted again, it worked.

There is supposed to be a normal inittab. I already fixed this problem for
the next set. Most likely without the stub inittab, somethings on your
system were not setup completely.

 At boot, kerneld seems to get started, even though I'm running a 2.2
 kernel.  Perhaps a /proc problem?

Package problem with modutils, maintainer is aware.

 The console is somewhat broken.  I cannot start dselect, for example, it
 dies with Error opening terminal: linux.

Hmm, maybe ncurses is missing some things :/

 The default /etc/apt/sources.list uses stable urls.  This will break
 upon release in the non-us case, because in the to-be-stable potato, the
 directory layout is different from still-stable slink.  I noticed this
 after I changed the urls to point to unstable trees.

Yeah, most than likely these should be changed to potato URI's.

 Apt-get works.  But dpkg sometimes fails, I suspect this is related to
 out-of-memory situations.  When I run dpkg with a -D22 option, it works
 flawlessly, perhaps because the console output makes it go so slow.

There is a lowmem option to dpkg, you can add dpkg options to
/etc/apt/apt.conf (man apt.conf).

  Any one who had problems before, please let me know how these do.
 
 They're great!  At last I can boot Linux on the SLC and I'm pleased that
 Debian is the first to get it working.  The whole familiarity of the
 installation interface, the Debian GNU/Linux system, apt-get, all that
 stuff that I'm used to have on x86 systems, it is all there, on this
 pretty ancient (10 yrs old) SparcStation SLC - I'm impressed!

Excellent, good to hear :)

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Re: SLC nfsroot install report (Re: ANN: new boot disks to test)

2000-01-12 Thread Joost Kooij
Hi,

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Ben Collins wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:51:48AM +0100, Joost Kooij wrote:
 
  resumes from the break, the kernel detects the keyboard.  Could this be a
  submodel problem or a particular hardware problem? (I did once replace a
  dead buffer ic on the SLC's mainboard to get the keyboard working at all.)
  My prom version is reported a 1.4 on the prom banner.
 
 Not sure, I'll have to check into that one.

On all previous boot images I tried (which all used the framebuffer
console) the kernel would crash with Watchdog reset. Window underrun at
the same point where it now hangs (loops?)  

  The console is somewhat broken.  I cannot start dselect, for example, it
  dies with Error opening terminal: linux.
 
 Hmm, maybe ncurses is missing some things :/

Observe this:
# echo $TERM
linux
# clear
'linux': I can't handle hardcopy terminals
#

 Yeah, most than likely these should be changed to potato URI's.
 
  Apt-get works.  But dpkg sometimes fails, I suspect this is related to
  out-of-memory situations.  When I run dpkg with a -D22 option, it works
  flawlessly, perhaps because the console output makes it go so slow.
 
 There is a lowmem option to dpkg, you can add dpkg options to
 /etc/apt/apt.conf (man apt.conf).

Oh, I didn't realize that.  I just found out that -D22 doesn't work all
the time either, nor does sync'ing often.  But --smallmem seems to indeed
work reliably.  Thanks for the hint.

Cheers,


Joost 


Re: ANN: new boot disks to test

2000-01-12 Thread ferret

New go with the boot disks, mostly the same problems.

I'm setting up an NFSroot with the old Slink disks, but I've forgotten how
to make it boot over NFS again. I copied the vmlinuz file from the install
into /tftpboot/HEX IP address.SUN4C and passed some boot paramaters.

|ok boot net root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober
ip=192.168.1.50:192.168.1.42
|Boot device: /sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],c0   File and args: root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober ip=192.168.1.50:192c4c00
|The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
|ok

Could someone get me quickly fixed here, then I'll print out the
instructions and try not to lose them this time?
Machine is a Sparc IPX with generic 4x16MB 36-bit SIMMS and OEM hard
drive on serial console.

2000-01-06 images.

Booted by TFTP, serial console supplied by minicom.

Rebooted and supplied `TERM=vt102' to netboot to get rid of the slower 
colour/hi-graphics stuff. Not too bad.

Cursor is one line above and one charcell behind the hilighted
selection. But it is hilighted. Buttons have the cursor immediately
after the button hilighted.

Wishlist: Change the wording about the new ext2 `features'.
Something like `do you wish to use these new features (not reccomended
if you're going to use a 2.0 kernel), then the `yes' option will enable
the features. The current wording smacks me like a double-negative.

Now I go on to install the kernel and modules from `network'. I
configure the network up.

I leave the `network' install site as the default, and after a few
minutes (with modem activity) get
|nf_http_fetchfile :: couldn't open file
|/target/tmp/sun4c/disks-1.44/rescue.bin for writing

|Download of file disks-1.44/rescue.bin failed

I'm still getting the `invalid argument' error when mounting by NFS.
Though my NFS server tells me the mount was successful.

I have a working floppy drive on my lintel again, so I'll try making
bootfloppies in a little while. Long download on a 19.2k connection.

Then I get this at the shell (with a typo):
|# ae /etc/resolv/conf
|S-Lang Error: Unknown Error Code
|SLcurses_initscr: init failed

And I'm locked except I can break to PROM.


AND I forgot how to nfsrootboot linux on this thing. :/


Re: ANN: new boot disks to test

2000-01-12 Thread Eric Delaunay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 New go with the boot disks, mostly the same problems.
 
 I'm setting up an NFSroot with the old Slink disks, but I've forgotten how
 to make it boot over NFS again. I copied the vmlinuz file from the install
 into /tftpboot/HEX IP address.SUN4C and passed some boot paramaters.
 
 |ok boot net root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober
 ip=192.168.1.50:192.168.1.42
 |Boot device: /sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],c0   File and args: root=/dev/nfs
 nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober ip=192.168.1.50:192c4c00
 |The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
 |ok
 
 Could someone get me quickly fixed here, then I'll print out the
 instructions and try not to lose them this time?

Use linux-a.out kernel instead of vmlinuz.  OpenPROM requires an a.out
executable to download, not a compressed ELF file.

Regards.

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Re: SLC nfsroot install report (Re: ANN: new boot disks to test)

2000-01-12 Thread Eric Delaunay
Ben Collins wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:51:48AM +0100, Joost Kooij wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
  
   Ok, at 
   http://xia01.kachinatech.com/~buildd/sparc-2.2.14-potato-boot/current
   you will find the latest set of boot disks.
  
  They work!  Yay!
 
 Excellent, thank you for the rather extensive report. I'll try to address
 each problem. Most of these I already noticed. I also succesfully
 installed from NFSROOT to an NFSROOT on this UltraSPARC. What I really
 need to add is an option to mount an NFS for the target, that we you wont
 have to do it manually.

Hmm, it used to be there.  mount any should contain an NFS entry that
could be used to mount the target.  Might disappeared in latest boot-floppies?

Regards.

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Re: ANN: initial sparc potato boot floppies ready for testing

2000-01-12 Thread ferret

Can you make the images available by FTP as well, or tweak the http to
make downloading more wget-friendly? Currently I'm using
|wget -r -c --follow-ftp \
http://xia01.kachinatech.com/~buildd/sparc-2.2.14-potato-boot/2000-01-06/

But I find I have to manually get each directory under that because it
only downloads the index.html file. Or perhaps I'm using the wrong options
to wget (but those look right, according to the manual), and if so, what
options should I be using?



Re: ANN: initial sparc potato boot floppies ready for testing

2000-01-12 Thread Eric Delaunay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can you make the images available by FTP as well, or tweak the http to

You can connect ftp to xia01 with your developper's account.
Look under /home/buildd/... or something like that.
It was what I used the last time to download BF.

 make downloading more wget-friendly? Currently I'm using
 |wget -r -c --follow-ftp \
 http://xia01.kachinatech.com/~buildd/sparc-2.2.14-potato-boot/2000-01-06/
 
 But I find I have to manually get each directory under that because it
 only downloads the index.html file. Or perhaps I'm using the wrong options
 to wget (but those look right, according to the manual), and if so, what
 options should I be using?

Tried same options with no more success ;((
Regards.

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Re: ANN: initial sparc potato boot floppies ready for testing

2000-01-12 Thread Ben Collins
Ok, burning the next great set right now. This has some improvements.
Mainly that the network does not have to be configured before allowing you
to choose and NFS partition for the target root (it configures it after
choosing if it isn't already). Plus a few login problems.

This time I will put them on my ftp server, which has anonymous access.
I'll let everyone know the URL when they are ready (probably later
tonight).

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boot floppies and NFSroot?

2000-01-12 Thread ferret

I'm tftpbooting the sun4cdm/linux-a.out image, boot args at PROM:

|ok boot net root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober,rsize=8192,wsize=8192
ip=192.168.1.50:192.168.1.42

|SPARCstation IPX, No Keyboard
|ROM Rev. 2.6, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #2165154.
|Ethernet address 8:0:20:c:dc:80, Host ID: 572109a2.


|Rebooting with command: net root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober,rsize=8192,wsize=8192
ip=192.168.1.50:2Boot device: /sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],c0   File and args:
root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=192.168.1.42:/mount/nfs/nfsroot/goober,rsize=8192,wsize=82180c00
|Booting Linux...
|PROMLIB: Sun Boot Prom Version 2 Revision 2
|Linux version 2.2.14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991109 (Debian
|GNU/Linux)) #1 Thu Jan 6 15:02:08 EST 2000
|ARCH: SUN4C
|TYPE: Sun4c SparcStation IPX
|Ethernet address: 8:0:20:c:dc:80
|Loading sun4c MMU routines
.
|VFS: Cannot open root device 00:00
|Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00
|Press L1-A to return to the boot prom

This is according to linux/Documentation/nfsroot.txt

sun4cdm/linux-a.out does have NFSroot support?



Re: ANN: initial sparc potato boot floppies ready for testing

2000-01-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:44:26AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
 choosing if it isn't already). Plus a few login problems.
^
Meant to say logic :)

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Re: boot floppies and NFSroot?

2000-01-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:48:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm tftpbooting the sun4cdm/linux-a.out image, boot args at PROM:

The disks on the site right now do not have this. The kernel images on
that same URL do have this support, so you can extract one of those and
run elftoaout if you want.

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new disks

2000-01-12 Thread andrea . martano
Hi all,
new disks install and run fine on ss10.
Installed base system + olvwm + several other pkgs.

Andrea Martano.





   
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