Re: FAQlist?
Hello, all- First off, you guys rock. Many, many thanks for all the work you've done. I've poked around the ultralinux FAQ and a few man pages, but haven't quite managed to find this: Is it possible to get Xsun to honor the alt-F[1-6] virtual-console switching keystrokes that XF86_* allow? I realize that with a window manager that supports multiple workspaces, the presence of the virtual consoles is not as critical, but it'd be nice to have [access to] them. Thanks again- David On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Pieter Krul wrote: Jim Mintha wrote: On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:15:18PM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: Hi. Is there a FAQ list? I have a few questions that I think would just annoy most experienced {ultra,}sparc users. There is a FAQ for sparc linux in general at: http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html at the moment it doesn't have very much that is debian specific. But if you don't find what your looking for, as Ben said just ask the list. Any question that could annoy most experienced users should IMHO be asked right away. I'm quite sure that more Debian specific information will be added to the FAQ at www.ultralinux.org in the very near future. Regards, Pieter
Re: FAQlist?
Hello, all- My bad... That's what I get for asking the question w/out reading all the recent mail first. ctrl-alt-F[1-6] indeed does the trick. In a desperate attempt to redeem myself, I'll try to add some new content to the discussion :) Is there a particular reason that ctrl-alt- is used instead of just alt-? Is it configurable at all? For that matter, is there an analog of XF86Config for Xsun? Thanks again for all the work that has gone into this- David On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, David Butts wrote: Hello, all- First off, you guys rock. Many, many thanks for all the work you've done. I've poked around the ultralinux FAQ and a few man pages, but haven't quite managed to find this: Is it possible to get Xsun to honor the alt-F[1-6] virtual-console switching keystrokes that XF86_* allow? I realize that with a window manager that supports multiple workspaces, the presence of the virtual consoles is not as critical, but it'd be nice to have [access to] them. Thanks again- David On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Pieter Krul wrote: Jim Mintha wrote: On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:15:18PM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: Hi. Is there a FAQ list? I have a few questions that I think would just annoy most experienced {ultra,}sparc users. There is a FAQ for sparc linux in general at: http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html at the moment it doesn't have very much that is debian specific. But if you don't find what your looking for, as Ben said just ask the list. Any question that could annoy most experienced users should IMHO be asked right away. I'm quite sure that more Debian specific information will be added to the FAQ at www.ultralinux.org in the very near future. Regards, Pieter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
need bootable Sparc CD
I would like to get a full CD of the latest (2.1r5) version of Debian for Sparc. Of the various vendors of Debian CDs out there, they all fall under 1 of 4 categories: 1: dead or unreachable, 2: too lame to navigate, 3: are unclear about what the CD is (no version information), 4: don't offer 2.1r5. Maybe someone can make a custom CD? It has been suggested to me that I just install an earlier verion and run apt to upgrade. However, it has been my experience that upgrading which involves replacing an older version with a newer version can (this means does not always, but in some cases has been known to) cause problems itself. I've personally experienced this on way too many different systems to be ready to accept an advocate telling me that Debian would be an exception. I'm willing to be open minded to that idea AS I LEARN DEBIAN ... but for my first install, I want to do it all in one pass first, and come back and play around with it later. While exploring some areas on the web site some people have suggested, one possible approach has come to mind. A network install would have 3 basic steps: 1: get the kernel booted, 2: install the base system, 3: boot the base system and run apt against an HTTP collection of the rest of the files to build the full system. The web site listed a number of different ways to do this, but as it turns out, my situation prevents me from doing steps 1 and 2 in a viable way. Thus I have this suggestion, and I bring it up because it seems so obvious to me that maybe someone has actually done this already and might have such a thing available. The suggestion is, a mini-ISO, burnable into a bootable CD, that does the installation of ONLY the base system. Then from that base system the installation can continue via the network. I would need a Sparc version of this, if anyone has ever put such a thing together. How big would a base-only mini-ISO CD be, anyway? I would think it could be squeezed to under 40 meg. -- | Phil Howard - KA9WGN | My current boycotts: Amazon.Com, DVDs, Mattel, Sony | [EMAIL PROTECTED] + | Dallas - Texas - USA | My current websites: linuxhomepage.com, ham.org
Re: need bootable Sparc CD
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:36:38PM -0600, Phil Howard wrote: I would like to get a full CD of the latest (2.1r5) version of Debian for Sparc. Of the various vendors of Debian CDs out there, they all fall under 1 of 4 categories: 1: dead or unreachable, 2: too lame to navigate, 3: are unclear about what the CD is (no version information), 4: don't offer 2.1r5. 2.1r5 is too new to find any CD vendors with it (most still have r4 I'm sure) Maybe someone can make a custom CD? I might be able to. No guarantees, but let me see. It has been suggested to me that I just install an earlier verion and run apt to upgrade. However, it has been my experience that upgrading which involves replacing an older version with a newer version can (this means does not always, but in some cases has been known to) cause problems itself. I've personally experienced this on way too many different systems to be ready to accept an advocate telling me that Debian would be an exception. I'm willing to be open minded to that idea AS I LEARN DEBIAN ... but for my first install, I want to do it all in one pass first, and come back and play around with it later. Well, you asked for it :) Debian is *the* exception. We do not release a whole new dist (and I mean major upgrades like 2.1 to 2.2) that cannot do seemless upgrades. It's what we pride ourselves on. So 2.1r4 to 2.1r5 is a cake walk (there are only ~15 packages that changed from r4 to r5, IIRC). Believe me, it is nothing to upgrade a Debian system using apt-get. While exploring some areas on the web site some people have suggested, one possible approach has come to mind. A network install would have 3 basic steps: 1: get the kernel booted, 2: install the base system, 3: boot the base system and run apt against an HTTP collection of the rest of the files to build the full system. The web site listed a number of different ways to do this, but as it turns out, my situation prevents me from doing steps 1 and 2 in a viable way. Thus I have this suggestion, and I bring it up because it seems so obvious to me that maybe someone has actually done this already and might have such a thing available. The suggestion is, a mini-ISO, burnable into a bootable CD, that does the installation of ONLY the base system. Then from that base system the installation can continue via the network. I would need a Sparc version of this, if anyone has ever put such a thing together. How big would a base-only mini-ISO CD be, anyway? I would think it could be squeezed to under 40 meg. Wow, you just caught me right before posting this info to the list. I have a 63 meg bootable ISO image for sparc. However it is potato (2.2 upcoming). IMHO, it is actually much more stable than 2.1rX (for sparc that is). You should really consider this your best option: ftp://marcus.debian.net/pub/debian/disks-sparc/ -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Ldconfig segfaults
Well, i have that same ldconfig segfault bug that some persons experienced here, so i think it should be fixed :). Well i'm quite new to all the debian-dev stuff, but Maxime Baudin told me about how to solve the problem, and as I couldn't find it on the mailing list : compile ldconfig with a normal optimization, not -O4, or switch back to gcc2.7 Well hope this helps, Manuel Odendahl -- Don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon.
Re: Ldconfig segfaults
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 10:57:51AM +0200, Manuel Odendahl wrote: compile ldconfig with a normal optimization, not -O4, or switch back to gcc2.7 Hoops, I wanted to write: no optimization at all , or gcc2.7 Last minute: The problem doesn't seem to occur on unstable kernel (tried 2.3.49 and 2.3.99 official (not cvs) tree without ANY problem from ldconfig) Well hope this helps, I guess so Maxime Baudin