Re: Booting Debian from floppies on UltraSparc.

2000-06-07 Thread Chris Brandstetter
Last I knew, when I tried to install the first time on my Ultra 1 about 6 mos
ago, and from what I have heard,
you cannot install from a floppy.  There is a problem booting Ultra machines off
of a floppy.  I would recomend waiting for the ISO's and doing it that way.  It
is a much easier way than the alternatives I know of (tftpboot :(   )Chris B



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am trying to install the current frozen distribution, but I wouldn't
> mind even older one (assuming dselect and apt-get would work after
> that).  Just to start.  I am downloading ISO images right now, but
> tomorrow morning PDT, I would like to start installation.  If I could
> make it from floppies, I would be happier, though.  I know that Red Hat
> is bootable there, but it was from a CD (that's why am I downloading ISO
> images - I wouldn't otherwise).
>
> When I press Stop-A and after I get ok prompt, I can test floppy
> which shows it's there and successfuly readable. "boot floppy" doesn't
> work, though. The error message says "Can't open disk label package" and
> something about "bad magic number".
>
> I tried to find help on
> http://www.debian.org/releases/frozen/sparc/install.en.txt, but that
> document isn't very useful.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Peter.
>
> P.S.: I even tried today version of bootfloppies.
>
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Booting Debian from floppies on UltraSparc.

2000-06-07 Thread PeHaSys

I am trying to install the current frozen distribution, but I wouldn't
mind even older one (assuming dselect and apt-get would work after
that).  Just to start.  I am downloading ISO images right now, but
tomorrow morning PDT, I would like to start installation.  If I could
make it from floppies, I would be happier, though.  I know that Red Hat
is bootable there, but it was from a CD (that's why am I downloading ISO
images - I wouldn't otherwise).

When I press Stop-A and after I get ok prompt, I can test floppy
which shows it's there and successfuly readable. "boot floppy" doesn't
work, though. The error message says "Can't open disk label package" and
something about "bad magic number".

I tried to find help on
http://www.debian.org/releases/frozen/sparc/install.en.txt, but that
document isn't very useful.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Peter.

P.S.: I even tried today version of bootfloppies.



Re: Unable to compile; sys/io.h not found (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread Thorsten Kukuk
On Wed, Jun 07, Stephen R. Gore wrote:

> I found it in /usr/include/asm/io.h on sparc.  Not sure if this is a bug,
> or really necessary.  There needs to at least be a link from 
> /usr/include/sys/io.h for most builds to find the header.

sys/io.h does not exist on SPARC. And you don't need it. You even
cannot use it, because it is not supported by the SPARC hardware.
You don't have IO ports.

If you have a program which depends on it, you need to rewrite it
for a SPARC port.

Linking asm/io.h to sys/io.h does not help, because the program
will not compile with it.

  Thorsten

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Re: Unable to compile; sys/io.h not found (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread Stephen R. Gore
I found it in /usr/include/asm/io.h on sparc.  Not sure if this is a bug,
or really necessary.  There needs to at least be a link from 
/usr/include/sys/io.h for most builds to find the header.

Regards,
Steve

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I'm going to be recompiling libc6 as a verification pass. The powertweak
> people are saying we should have a sys/io.h, but it looks like it's
> something specific to arches that use ISA.
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:28:18 -0700
> From: Sudhakar Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Unable to compile; sys/io.h not found
> 
> Dave Jones proclaimed:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >  > My system doesn't seem to have a sys/io.h under /usr/include.
> > 
> > Then it would appear to be borken.
> > 
> >  > I'm running Debian potato prerelease. Kernel 2.2.15, libc6 2.1.3, with
> >  > standard libc headers.
> > 
> > Looks like a debian-specific problem.  Thaths?, Anyone ?
> > If you've got the devel stuff installed, then it maybe that the
> > packager screwed up, and missed a file ?
> 
> 
> 
> See if you sys/io.h is listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6-dev.list
> 
> It is is not, then the package maintainer messed up.  If it is, your system
> has somehoe landed in an inconsistent state.  Download the libc6-dev deb
> again and reinstall it.  Before reinstalling it do a 'dpkg --contents
> libc6-dev*.deb | more' to see if sys/io.h is part of the package that you
> downloaded.
> 
> S.
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Sparc ELC w limited resources - trouble installing

2000-06-07 Thread Schulz, Martin
Hi,

 I have a working ELC, after replacing the NVRAM... it did boot SunOS 4 last
time I tried.
I'm having some trouble figuring out the (best) way to install Linux on this
machine.

I've studied the available install doc from Debian, UltraSparc and RedHat to
no total enlightenment.
I've tried several methods to not much success so far.

Configuration:
12 MB RAM
Ethernet and a fully functional 2.2.15 PII connected (rarp and tftp set up
and working)
650 MB Hard disk I can either use on the PII Linux box or the ELC.

I thought that should do it - but not much luck.

My equipment precludes me from using either CD or Floppy, apparently the
preferred install
media. That together with little RAM seems to block the more treaden paths
(rescue disks etc.).

TFTP:
I know my memory is a little tight and none of the tftp boots have ever
worked. Should they have?
One thing I noticed that my machine always seems to hang after the load
unless I pad
the file to a multiple of a block size.  That might be worth noting or even
add to the scripts for producing these thingies we tftp over.
The doc on 'low memory TFTP install' is a complete mystery to me - see NFS
questions below.

NFS:
I also tried to boot with an NFS root, but the the kernel never managed to
mount it:  
"cant mount root on 00:00\nPress L1 A to reboot".
The docs are not clear what the correct syntax is for an NFS mounted root...
that shouldn't be hard to add.  I tried root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=192.168.100.100:/the/root/path
Obviously that depends on the kernel to have support built in for it, but
how can I tell if the .config
isn't provided with the kernel? (Debian linux-2.2.1.a.out or so)

HD:
I managed to partition and setup the HD with the base2_1.tar.gz content.
That booted great,
but simply told me to stick in the boot floppy, then confiure the system.
Stuck.
Why is it so hard to set up a minimal system from Linux box of a different
architecture I don't understand.

If left to my own resources,  I'll try the same stuff again with a newer
potato install kit I've learned
about on the list today.  I'll also try to abuse my swap partition on the HD
as a 'root'.
That should be feasible for Debian, but RedHat wanted all their RPMS in
there, taking too much
space.

Am I missing something important?

Bonus question:
Also, I can't claim I've fully understood the full detailed mechanics of an
installation. Wha'ts the
main thing to kick off after a minimal RAM or disk based system is up and
running and why can't
it be on the same partition as the system being installed?

Your help is very much appreciated...

Martin



Re: Unable to compile; sys/io.h not found (fwd)

2000-06-07 Thread ferret

I'm going to be recompiling libc6 as a verification pass. The powertweak
people are saying we should have a sys/io.h, but it looks like it's
something specific to arches that use ISA.


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:28:18 -0700
From: Sudhakar Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unable to compile; sys/io.h not found

Dave Jones proclaimed:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  > My system doesn't seem to have a sys/io.h under /usr/include.
> 
> Then it would appear to be borken.
> 
>  > I'm running Debian potato prerelease. Kernel 2.2.15, libc6 2.1.3, with
>  > standard libc headers.
> 
> Looks like a debian-specific problem.  Thaths?, Anyone ?
> If you've got the devel stuff installed, then it maybe that the
> packager screwed up, and missed a file ?



See if you sys/io.h is listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6-dev.list

It is is not, then the package maintainer messed up.  If it is, your system
has somehoe landed in an inconsistent state.  Download the libc6-dev deb
again and reinstall it.  Before reinstalling it do a 'dpkg --contents
libc6-dev*.deb | more' to see if sys/io.h is part of the package that you
downloaded.

S.
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Sudhakar C13nhttp://www.aunet.org/thaths/Lead Indentured Slave



Re: Serial PCI ports

2000-06-07 Thread Thomas Lange

> > > > PCIO serial driver version 1.18.2.6
> > > > su(serial) at 0xf9fff13803f8 (tty 0 irq 6,7dc) is a 16550A
> > > > su(serial) at 0xf9fff13602f8 (tty 1 irq 6,7d4) is a 16550A
> > > 
> > > Hmm, for some reason it doesn't look like the serial is configured
> > > completely. On my system I get this:
> > > 
> > >   PCIO serial driver version 1.18.2.5
> > >   su(serial) at 0xf9fff13803f8 (tty 0 irq 6,7dc) is a 16550A
> > >   su(serial) at 0xf9fff13602f8 (tty 1 irq 4,7dd) is a 16550A
> > >   SAB82532 serial driver version 1.30.2.2
> > >   ttyS00 at 0x1fff140 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
> > >   ttyS01 at 0x1fff1400040 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
> > >   Console: ttyS0 (SAB82532)
> > > 
> > > Which version of boot-floppies are you using?
> > 
> > I have tried several, but the log is from 2.2.13.
> 
> Can you be more specific on which ones you have tried? Did you try the
> 2.2.15 images at:
> 
> http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disk-sparc/current/
> 
> This would help a lot in pinpointing the initialization problem.
> 

2.2.15 -> same problem.

2.2.12 -> Does not start, error message "no kernel".

I am using the sun4u image ( maybe goes without saying? ).

/Thomas Lange/



Re: Serial PCI ports

2000-06-07 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Thomas Lange wrote:
> 
> > > PCIO serial driver version 1.18.2.6
> > > su(serial) at 0xf9fff13803f8 (tty 0 irq 6,7dc) is a 16550A
> > > su(serial) at 0xf9fff13602f8 (tty 1 irq 6,7d4) is a 16550A
> > 
> > Hmm, for some reason it doesn't look like the serial is configured
> > completely. On my system I get this:
> > 
> >   PCIO serial driver version 1.18.2.5
> >   su(serial) at 0xf9fff13803f8 (tty 0 irq 6,7dc) is a 16550A
> >   su(serial) at 0xf9fff13602f8 (tty 1 irq 4,7dd) is a 16550A
> >   SAB82532 serial driver version 1.30.2.2
> >   ttyS00 at 0x1fff140 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
> >   ttyS01 at 0x1fff1400040 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
> >   Console: ttyS0 (SAB82532)
> > 
> > Which version of boot-floppies are you using?
> 
> I have tried several, but the log is from 2.2.13.

Can you be more specific on which ones you have tried? Did you try the
2.2.15 images at:

http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disk-sparc/current/

This would help a lot in pinpointing the initialization problem.

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Re: Serial PCI ports

2000-06-07 Thread Thomas Lange

> > PCIO serial driver version 1.18.2.6
> > su(serial) at 0xf9fff13803f8 (tty 0 irq 6,7dc) is a 16550A
> > su(serial) at 0xf9fff13602f8 (tty 1 irq 6,7d4) is a 16550A
> 
> Hmm, for some reason it doesn't look like the serial is configured
> completely. On my system I get this:
> 
>   PCIO serial driver version 1.18.2.5
>   su(serial) at 0xf9fff13803f8 (tty 0 irq 6,7dc) is a 16550A
>   su(serial) at 0xf9fff13602f8 (tty 1 irq 4,7dd) is a 16550A
>   SAB82532 serial driver version 1.30.2.2
>   ttyS00 at 0x1fff140 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
>   ttyS01 at 0x1fff1400040 (irq = 12,7eb) is a SAB82532 V3.2
>   Console: ttyS0 (SAB82532)
> 
> Which version of boot-floppies are you using?

I have tried several, but the log is from 2.2.13.

/Thomas Lange/