Re: Choisir le disque de démarrage
C'est bon, j'ai redémarré avec : boot /sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],80/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (en modifiant l'adresse donnée au boot normal, qui était sur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boudiou ! David
Re: newbie+potato+Classic=? [was CDU561 misadventures]
I would recommend having your very lucky friend download the packages for you instead of a whole ISO image, since like you said at this point there is not much ease in either finding out which ones are most up-to-date, and also if you want to install non-free the images probably don't include most of that (?). If you use apt to install from ftp, you can fool it into thinking it already downloaded the packages: have your friend download all of them and burn them to CD, then just copy them all to /var/cache/apt/archives or something like that. If you don't have enough space you can make a few decisions before getting to dselect. - Ben Roberts, Class of 2001 (1st of millenium), founding member of MBLUG If your motherboard smells like carcinogens it's time to get a new motherboard. -- Ben Roberts, refering to his SPARC
10BaseT transceiver works now
Thanks to everyone who gave me advice on how to troubleshoot this odd problem. When I connected the transceiver to my 3c509 I immediately noticed something I hadn't before; there's a link LED too, which wasn't on on the SPARC (duh!) So I realized the transceiver works, and then by sheer luck when I replaced it in the sparc it worked. Turns out its extremely sensetive and so I had to play around with it to get it to remain working, even the metal slider isn't tight enough (which is also a pain to put into place). ANd since the ELC is close to a wall it's difficult to adjust it and still get the conenction to work (not good for an ipmasq machine, eh?) - Ben Roberts, Class of 2001 (1st of millenium), founding member of MBLUG If your motherboard smells like carcinogens it's time to get a new motherboard. -- Ben Roberts, refering to his SPARC
Potato: XSunMono 3.3.6-9 bwtwo don't work
Hi there, the XSunMono x server doesn't work correctly here... When I start it, I first get the blank white screen and then a horribly squeezed Debian logo..but nothing more. If I then switch back to the text console there is a segmentation fault message. I guess this is an x server issue, I have some other Suns with an identical configuration which works like a charm... :)) (But the other machines do NOT use the XsunMono server, but Xsun!) All the boxes get their filesystems via NFS and the X server is started via inittab with an -indirect query. The XsunMono server which came with Slink worked well, so I don't believe it's a hardware fault. And yes, the /dev/sunmouse device is there... Can this be a device file issue? Any clues? Thanks! Andi
Re: newbie+potato+Classic=? [was CDU561 misadventures]
Ben Roberts wrote: snip If you use apt to install from ftp, you can fool it into thinking it already downloaded the packages: have your friend download all of them and burn them to CD, then just copy them all to /var/cache/apt/archives or something like that. If you don't have enough space you can make a few decisions before getting to dselect. Hmmm well; the classic has a puny harddrive by todays standards. :( Please excuse the fumblings. I am new to Debian and the dpkg/deselect/ apt thing. OK; I'll put these all onto, say CDRWs, and then install using the floppy boot and root images dd'd from the CD onto floppies. Once I'm at that point, is there a way to use the CDs (as is) to install using dpselect? If necessary, I can install the base from floppies, too. However, it seems that there is a base2_2.tgz or some such thing in the appropriate directories on Debian mirrors. If I could use that from the CD that would save a lot of time, as opposed to putting 10 images onto floppies. I suppose, regardless of how I got to that point, I could move files in groups onto /var/cache/apt/archives. Are there going to be problems that I should be aware of? For example, what about resolving dependencies of the packages that I'm going to unceremoniously dump into this dir? Is there a reasonably painless way to resolve these? One final question. Is there a way to generate a list of everything I decided to install, and then use this to make a CD of just what I want? Is this something that apt puts into a log file somewhere, that can be parsed or viewed at a later time? This way I can burn a CDR and wipe my CDRWs and use them for the backup purposes they were bought for. =:) Thanks in advance, -- cheers, Mike Pfleger There's seventy brilliant people on Earth. Where are they hiding? -Cabaret Voltaire Yashar
Re: newbie+potato+Classic=? [was CDU561 misadventures]
You can put the files anywhere you like for things like base2_2.tgz, then tell the installer where to look for them. THe same goes for drivers.tgz; I agree you don't want to put all of those onto floppies :-) Also make sure that if you're using cdrw's that their formatting is compatible with your drive. But for the packages themselves I don't know... but one thing you can do is make a fake cd set with all the stuff you really need; get all the packages as well as the Packages.gz or whatever, and keep the directory structure intact. That COULD work... but you may need to remake the Packages.gz file for each cdrw, so that would be a challenge. Any change you can just get a whole lot of network cable strung to your friend's place with the ADSL connection? :-) The last option, which isn't that bad, is to configure apt to do http downloads, then individually select which major packages (i.e. not supporting packages, apt does that) you want via apt-get install package. Apt will prompt you asking if you want to do it and what packages it will download, including dependencies (the glory of apt!). Quit apt then copy the packages over to its temporary directory off the cdrw, then run it again. Voila! It's better than downloading them at least. - Ben Roberts, Class of 2001 (1st of millenium), founding member of MBLUG If your motherboard smells like carcinogens it's time to get a new motherboard. -- Ben Roberts, refering to his SPARC
Re: newbie+potato+Classic=? [was CDU561 misadventures]
Hello, all- For what it's worth, I did an essentially complete potato install over a 33.6 modem[1]. The fact that I was doing the install through another machine doing IP masquerading meant that I was able to pretend it was a standard network install, but if you have copies of base2_2.tgz and drivers.tgz already, then it should (someone feel free to correct me on this, I've never actually tried it) be fairly straightforward to just tell it to do the install over PPP once the base system is up and running. That said, it will take a while. I can sustain about 10MB/hour through a 33.6 modem, so I expect that translates to around 8 or 9 MB/hour on a 28.8. It's a long time, granted, but if you let it go overnight, you end up sleeping through the bulk of it, which softens the demands on your attention span substantially. For what it's worth, I have potato running on a Classic (among several other systems), and have nothing but good things to say about it. Good luck- David [1] In the interests of full disclosure, the install was on a pentium notebook, but that's really immaterial. The install process is very smooth and consistent across Alpha, Sparc and x86, and, like I said, the only thing that my machine could tell was different from a 'real' net install was that the pipe was ... skinny. On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Ben Roberts wrote: You can put the files anywhere you like for things like base2_2.tgz, then tell the installer where to look for them. THe same goes for drivers.tgz; I agree you don't want to put all of those onto floppies :-) Also make sure that if you're using cdrw's that their formatting is compatible with your drive. But for the packages themselves I don't know... but one thing you can do is make a fake cd set with all the stuff you really need; get all the packages as well as the Packages.gz or whatever, and keep the directory structure intact. That COULD work... but you may need to remake the Packages.gz file for each cdrw, so that would be a challenge. Any change you can just get a whole lot of network cable strung to your friend's place with the ADSL connection? :-) The last option, which isn't that bad, is to configure apt to do http downloads, then individually select which major packages (i.e. not supporting packages, apt does that) you want via apt-get install package. Apt will prompt you asking if you want to do it and what packages it will download, including dependencies (the glory of apt!). Quit apt then copy the packages over to its temporary directory off the cdrw, then run it again. Voila! It's better than downloading them at least. - Ben Roberts, Class of 2001 (1st of millenium), founding member of MBLUG If your motherboard smells like carcinogens it's time to get a new motherboard. -- Ben Roberts, refering to his SPARC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie+potato+Classic=? [was CDU561 misadventures]
At 11:06 AM 7/25/2000 -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote: One final question. Is there a way to generate a list of everything I decided to install, and then use this to make a CD of just what I want? Is this something that apt puts into a log file somewhere, that can be parsed or viewed at a later time? This way I can burn a CDR and wipe my CDRWs and use them for the backup purposes they were bought for. =:) From the apt-zip readme: These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies. One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and then install the package on your Debian box.
Re: newbie+potato+Classic=? [was CDU561 misadventures]
At 11:06 AM 7/25/2000 -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote: One final question. Is there a way to generate a list of everything I decided to install, and then use this to make a CD of just what I want? Is this something that apt puts into a log file somewhere, that can be parsed or viewed at a later time? This way I can burn a CDR and wipe my CDRWs and use them for the backup purposes they were bought for. =:) If your download machine also has debian, your problems are solved!!! Install apt on the Classic Install apt-zip on both machines Use apt-zip on the Classic to create a list of files required by dselect Use apt-zip on the networked machine to fetch these files. Copy to CD-R Back on Classic, copy them into /var/cache/apt/archives (or perhaps mount the CD there?), and dselect again. Works well (at least did 4 months ago). HTH -- Ghane
