Re: i dunno
SIMMs, but not PC simms. You can pick them up from any reputable Used Sparc salesperson, eBay, or whatever. On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Lars Hall wrote: > what kind of ram goes in a sparcstation 5?
i dunno
what kind of ram goes in a sparcstation 5?
Re: mozilla (previous was SV: Sound in Potato)
> Would M17 exists on sparc (woody or whatever) ? Last time I check it > is still M15. And it doesn't works for me. It does several things, > fires up the profile manager which hangs. I hope that M17 would work > (On an intel box M17 is much more stable than M15) The sparclinux builds appear on ftp.mozilla.org fairly soon after a release. Im even compiling them on a debian machine now :) Anton
Re: different packages compared to intel?
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Thomas 'Balu' Walter wrote: > > I am just Debianing for about 2 days now, but I really started liking > it. I am still a little confused about dselect, but "apt-get install" > works fine - and even if I have to figure out many things that are > different from my good old SuSE it is going to be "learning-fun" > BTW - if you have any short RTFM-Links on how to do a new kernel on > debian/sparc (as I found a SparcStation20 with two processors on campus > (- is smp supported for sparcs?)) send them by PM... ;) > install kernel-package and read the docs under /usr/share/doc/kernel-package it is the easiest way to compile a kernel (although kernel-package doesn't help with the kernel configuration part of the kernel compilation, you still have to do that yourself). AFAIK SMP works fine on sparcs. > +-Ben Collins-([EMAIL PROTECTED])-[29.08.00 15:57]: > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 07:19:48PM +0200, Thomas 'Balu' Walter wrote: > > > As I am just trying to do a linuxfromscratch.org-install on that famous > > > IPX ;) (bash-static-compile took 45minutes). I am wondering which > > > packages differ between sparc and intel-systems usually (just a > > > minimal-base system)... > > > > > > As far as I figured out one of them is > > > silo <-> lilo > > > > sparc-utils > > What is that a replacement for? binutils? What about bin86? sparc-utils is a small set of programs which you will rarely need, but it has prtconf if you miss it from Solaris. It is small enough (155k), so you can affort to keep it around in case you need it someday... bin86 is an 386 assembler which is used by, for instance, the kernel compilation, to, for instance, create 16-bit bootsectors. Sparc doesn't have a replacement because it doesn't need one. Kernel compilation on sparcs generates a vmlinux file which is an elf executable which is loaded directly to memory by silo (i guess). If you really want to, you can gzip it (and call it vmlinuz if you are so inclined :-) and silo won't complain. But unless you are producing a floppy or are really space impaired, the only visible effect is to slow down the boot process :-) which brings me back to kernel compilation: don't try to 'make zImage' or 'make bzImage'. A simple 'make' is sufficient and will generate vmlinux. But you don't need to worry about those mundane details if you use kernel-package. You will, of course, need binutils for kernel compilation. > [...] Regards, Leo
Re: different packages compared to intel?
No need to CC to me (or the list) anymore - I am subscribed now. I am just Debianing for about 2 days now, but I really started liking it. I am still a little confused about dselect, but "apt-get install" works fine - and even if I have to figure out many things that are different from my good old SuSE it is going to be "learning-fun" BTW - if you have any short RTFM-Links on how to do a new kernel on debian/sparc (as I found a SparcStation20 with two processors on campus (- is smp supported for sparcs?)) send them by PM... ;) +-Ben Collins-([EMAIL PROTECTED])-[29.08.00 15:57]: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 07:19:48PM +0200, Thomas 'Balu' Walter wrote: > > As I am just trying to do a linuxfromscratch.org-install on that famous > > IPX ;) (bash-static-compile took 45minutes). I am wondering which > > packages differ between sparc and intel-systems usually (just a > > minimal-base system)... > > > > As far as I figured out one of them is > > silo <-> lilo > > sparc-utils What is that a replacement for? binutils? What about bin86? > Other than that, they are basically the same (excepting some i386 specific > hardware packages like svgalib). Those packages are far more than a minimalistic install anyway... Balu
RE: mozilla
I should take a look at the site more often... Thanks Florent -Message d'origine- De : Afonso Infante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoye : mardi 29 aout 2000 16:37 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: mozilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Florent Alleau writes: > > > > Does someone know if Netscape will appear on potato for sparc one day. > > Mozilla crashes very often on my machine and I don't know if it is possible > > to use the M17 on 'woody' distribution. > > Would M17 exists on sparc (woody or whatever) ? Last time I check it > is still M15. And it doesn't works for me. It does several things, > fires up the profile manager which hangs. I hope that M17 would work > (On an intel box M17 is much more stable than M15) On the mozilla.org site, you'll find the M17 binaries for Linux sparc, ready to download on a tar.gz... They've been there for quite some time. No .deb package, though. But it works quite well (albeit slow). Best regards, AI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Florent Alleau writes: > > Does someone know if Netscape will appear on potato for sparc one day. > Mozilla crashes very often on my machine and I don't know if it is possible > to use the M17 on 'woody' distribution. Would M17 exists on sparc (woody or whatever) ? Last time I check it is still M15. And it doesn't works for me. It does several things, fires up the profile manager which hangs. I hope that M17 would work (On an intel box M17 is much more stable than M15) On the mozilla.org site, you'll find the M17 binaries for Linux sparc, ready to download on a tar.gz... They've been there for quite some time. No .deb package, though. But it works quite well (albeit slow). Best regards, AI
RE: mozilla
I agree with you M17 on i386 works great but I don't see something coming up on sparc. Does somebody else tried to compile it ? Florent Alleau -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoye : mardi 29 aout 2000 15:46 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: mozilla (previous was SV: Sound in Potato) Florent Alleau writes: > > Does someone know if Netscape will appear on potato for sparc one day. > Mozilla crashes very often on my machine and I don't know if it is possible > to use the M17 on 'woody' distribution. Would M17 exists on sparc (woody or whatever) ? Last time I check it is still M15. And it doesn't works for me. It does several things, fires up the profile manager which hangs. I hope that M17 would work (On an intel box M17 is much more stable than M15) -- PHAM Dinh Tuan | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laboratoire de Modelisation et Calcul | Tel: +33 4 76 51 44 23 BP 53, 38041 Grenoble cedex 9 (France) | Fax: +33 4 76 63 12 63 ---
Re: mozilla (previous was SV: Sound in Potato)
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 03:45:40PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Florent Alleau writes: > > > > Does someone know if Netscape will appear on potato for sparc one day. > > Mozilla crashes very often on my machine and I don't know if it is possible > > to use the M17 on 'woody' distribution. > > Would M17 exists on sparc (woody or whatever) ? Last time I check it > is still M15. And it doesn't works for me. It does several things, > fires up the profile manager which hangs. I hope that M17 would work > (On an intel box M17 is much more stable than M15) There was a bug in the source that prevented proper building on sparc. That's been resolved now, so expect m17 to be in woody RSN. I've been running it for a day or so now, and it works really well :) -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: different packages compared to intel?
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 07:19:48PM +0200, Thomas 'Balu' Walter wrote: > As I am just trying to do a linuxfromscratch.org-install on that famous > IPX ;) (bash-static-compile took 45minutes). I am wondering which > packages differ between sparc and intel-systems usually (just a > minimal-base system)... > > As far as I figured out one of them is > silo <-> lilo sparc-utils Other than that, they are basically the same (excepting some i386 specific hardware packages like svgalib). Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: real player - sound
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 11:47:03AM +0200, Cristian Constantin wrote: > Hi! > > Has anyone installed Real Player on a Debian (Potato) Ultra(1)-Sparc? > Does the sound work?? Works for me. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: potato on Ultra1
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 12:28:58PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried to boot potato from CD-ROM on a Ultra1 and as result I got: > > Unknown image /boot/sun4u/linux format > > Any ideas what could be wrong? You've gotten a copy of the bad ISO. You need the new 2.2_rev0_CDa images, or use one of the other boot methods (netboot, tftp). The CD is fine for other than booting. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: mozilla (previous was SV: Sound in Potato)
Florent Alleau writes: > > Does someone know if Netscape will appear on potato for sparc one day. > Mozilla crashes very often on my machine and I don't know if it is possible > to use the M17 on 'woody' distribution. Would M17 exists on sparc (woody or whatever) ? Last time I check it is still M15. And it doesn't works for me. It does several things, fires up the profile manager which hangs. I hope that M17 would work (On an intel box M17 is much more stable than M15) -- PHAM Dinh Tuan | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laboratoire de Modelisation et Calcul | Tel: +33 4 76 51 44 23 BP 53, 38041 Grenoble cedex 9 (France) | Fax: +33 4 76 63 12 63 ---
RE: SV: Sound in Potato
ooops ! Sorry for that question, I forgot to update the modules config ! Thanks for the tip anyway ! Does someone know if Netscape will appear on potato for sparc one day. Mozilla crashes very often on my machine and I don't know if it is possible to use the M17 on 'woody' distribution. I tried to compile it from the sources but the linker crashes (bug ?). Anyway lynx is so efficient. Florent alleau -Message d'origine- De : Afonso Infante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoye : mardi 29 aout 2000 08:45 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: SV: Sound in Potato Florent Alleau wrote: > Hello, > > I am very interested since I would like to hear some sound from my Ultra 5 > :-). > Do you have additional config files that you use ? > I have the same problem but the explanation you give doesn't solve it since > the module doesn't load automgically... Did you do an update-modules so that the changes on the modutils/aliases files were transfered to /etc/modules.conf? Best regards, AI
potato on Ultra1
Hi, I tried to boot potato from CD-ROM on a Ultra1 and as result I got: Unknown image /boot/sun4u/linux format Any ideas what could be wrong? Thanks for your time. Regards, Chris
real player - sound
Hi! Has anyone installed Real Player on a Debian (Potato) Ultra(1)-Sparc? Does the sound work?? Is it a Debian package for RealPlayer?? (I have installed it using the bin package provided by RealNetworks at their web site). Thanks! Bye now! Cristian -- Space may be the final frontier But it's made in a Hollywood basement RHCP -- Californication
How must I compile a new kernel on DEBIAN/SPARC?
Hello SPARC friends, what is the normal approach to compile a new kernel on my U10? I am a little bit confused according the right order of doing things. What I have done so far doesn't seem to work as I would like to. :-(( Here is what I have done so far: - Installed the kernel sources 2.2.17pre6-1 (placed in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17) - Installed the kernel headers 2.2.17-sparc (placed in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17-sparc) (Q: Do I have to create a link from the headers into the source, or copy them into the source folder? What about the generate-asm.sh script inside the headers folder?) - Installed the egcs64 package. - Used config xconfig and make-kpkg to configure and build a new package. So I configured, saved and built a new kernel, but the the modules for "video for linux" and "bttv" are not installed in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc, else I selected them to be build. My other question is, how can I include the isdn support to be build also as a module? Specially the HiSax driver for my PCI based ISDN card? I have no selection on xconfig or menuconfig to select any ISDN support (as I can do on PC). Thx and bye
Re: SV: Sound in Potato
Florent Alleau wrote: Hello, I am very interested since I would like to hear some sound from my Ultra 5 :-). Do you have additional config files that you use ? I have the same problem but the explanation you give doesn't solve it since the module doesn't load automgically... Did you do an update-modules so that the changes on the modutils/aliases files were transfered to /etc/modules.conf? Best regards, AI
