Re: help needed booting Ultra-5

[keith]

Hi Paul:

The CD's in Ultra-5's cannot read CD-RW media. However, they
can read CD-R's just fine, as I found out after some gnashing
of teeth.

So, burn a CD-R, and you should be in good shape -- it worked
for me.

Cheers,

Keith


On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 07:31:43PM -0600, paul cannon wrote:
> I've got an "Ultra 5" Sparc machines here on which I am going
> to install Debian. Unfortunately, I can't seem to make it boot
> to any installation media. The installation notes for Sparc
> imply that sun4u's don't support booting to the floppy, so that
> would explain my failures there, but I downloaded and burned an
> official 2.2_rev3 iso for sparc, and that won't boot either.
> After I do 'boot cdrom' at the ok prompt, the process begins,
> but the messages say:
> 
> 
> Rebooting with command: boot cdrom
> Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f  File and args:
> Can't read disk label.
> Can't open disk label package
> Evaluating: boot cdrom
> 
> Can't open boot device
> 
> 
> This is quite like the message displayed when I try to boot to a
> sparc rescue floppy. The cd burn seems to have been successful-
> I can mount it on other machines.
> 
> Is this a known problem, and I simply can't find any
> documentation about it? Might something be wrong with the
> hardware here, or is it likely I'm doing something stupid?
> 
> The CD in question is a CD-RW. Are Ultra-5's old enough that
> they can't read those? I don't have any account on the machine
> at the moment, so I've no way of trying to mount the CD under
> Solaris.
> 
> (Please CC me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list yet)
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help needed booting Ultra-5

[paul cannon]

I've got an "Ultra 5" Sparc machines here on which I am going
to install Debian. Unfortunately, I can't seem to make it boot
to any installation media. The installation notes for Sparc
imply that sun4u's don't support booting to the floppy, so that
would explain my failures there, but I downloaded and burned an
official 2.2_rev3 iso for sparc, and that won't boot either.
After I do 'boot cdrom' at the ok prompt, the process begins,
but the messages say:


Rebooting with command: boot cdrom
Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],0:f  File and args:
Can't read disk label.
Can't open disk label package
Evaluating: boot cdrom

Can't open boot device


This is quite like the message displayed when I try to boot to a
sparc rescue floppy. The cd burn seems to have been successful-
I can mount it on other machines.

Is this a known problem, and I simply can't find any
documentation about it? Might something be wrong with the
hardware here, or is it likely I'm doing something stupid?

The CD in question is a CD-RW. Are Ultra-5's old enough that
they can't read those? I don't have any account on the machine
at the moment, so I've no way of trying to mount the CD under
Solaris.

(Please CC me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list yet)

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kb problem

[Nath]

I'm trying to find a keymap for type6 keyboards, as alt doesn't work
with type5 keymap...

Does anyone where to find it ?

Thanks,

Nathanaël
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module selection during installation.

[Nath]

Hello all,

 During installation 2.2r3 on an ultra10, I can't select a module to
load, it never works, as if the hardware wasn't there... It's not a
problem, as the modules are well installed after installation process
is over, but I'm just asking me if it's a known bug or if I'm the only
one getting that. The cd drive is an ide one, and the devices I want
to load modules for are physically installed.

Between, has anyone succeded in making a bt848-based tv card in a
ultra workstation with pci stuff ? I'm still trying to make xawtv
display anything else than a black square, and crashing my X server
when going in full screen mode.

 


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More 2.4.12 compile errors on Sparc32

[Kiraly Andras]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Peter Keel wrote:

> Ok. Got it. 2.4.13-pre3, rsync'ed from the cvs at http://vger.samba.org/
> WORKS. On a Sparc10:

Hm, I try to compile kernel 2.4.13 and the kernel from vger. Both compile
till the end, then following error is reported:

objdump -x vmlinux.o | ./btfixupprep > btfix.s
Wrong use of 'disable_irq' in '.text.exit'
section. It can be only used in .text, .text.init, .fixup and __ksymtab
make[1]: *** [btfix.s] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/andras/src/vger/linux/arch/sparc/boot'
make: *** [_dir_arch/sparc/boot] Error 2

What's the problem? The system is a SparcStation 5 with Debian unstable
(upgraded from potato). GCC and binutils should be up to date.
I experienced this on all kernels >2.4.2 if there was not another
problem ;)

Thanks,
Andras

Re: 2.4.12 compile errors on Sparc32

[Peter Keel]

On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 06:41:22AM -0400, Joe Stevens wrote:
> Yea, the recent CVS versions should work, I only keep that 2.4.8 up there
> because its 'stable' (I use it on a number of production machines, uptimes
> of more than a month...)

Ok. Got it. 2.4.13-pre3, rsync'ed from the cvs at http://vger.samba.org/
WORKS. On a Sparc10:

cpu : Texas Instruments, Inc. - SuperSparc-(II)
fpu : SuperSparc on-chip FPU
promlib : Version 3 Revision 2
prom: 2.22
type: sun4m
ncpus probed: 2
ncpus active: 2
Cpu0Bogo: 74.75
Cpu1Bogo: 74.95
MMU type: TI Viking/MXCC
contexts: 65536
nocache total   : 1048576
nocache used: 772864
CPU0: online
CPU1: online

Whooohooo!

>  On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Peter Keel wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 01:22:39AM -0400, Joe Stevens wrote:
> > > I have a complete source tree of 2.4.8 that I have patched up to work on
> > > sparc32 available at http://home.att.ne.jp/iota/joe/ .  It have it running
> > > on a number of Sparc 5s.
> > 
> > I managed to compile the kernel from the cvs -- cvs-access was impossible
> > the user/password mentionned on http://vger.samba.org/ don't match, but
> > rsync works. I haven't tested it yet, since I'm always reluctant to boot 
> > a machine. I will report back if anything interesting happens. 

Cheers
Peter
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Re: asynchronus device / not block device

[Andrew Sharp]

"Del Campo, Damian" wrote:
> 
> I installed debian potato to a SS2 off of a CDrom. When the installation
> reboots and starts the package installation, it can't mount the CDrom.
> 
> It says that the CDrom is "not a block device". What does this mean?
> 
> Figuring that maybe my CD rom is problem, I watched all the startup messages
> and noticed that all my hard drives get listed as "syhchronus device"s and
> then it shows their bandwidth whereas my CD rom says its "asynchronus". Is
> this correct ?

This is fine.  What does /dev/cdrom point to?

a

Re: SPARCstation LX boot problem

[Ben Collins]

On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 07:34:31AM -0500, Corey Kovacs wrote:
> Well I figured out what the problem with the switch I have was, bad cable. Now
> I can get to the outside world (and other machines on the switch itself) so I
> should
> be able to proceed normally.
> 
> With the setup noted in the previous message I give the openboot command
> ok boot net ip.of.the.server
> 
> and I get errors indicating a timeout condition waiting for an RARP/ARP 
> packet.
> So
> obviously, as you said Ben, this is not set up right, and I am probably not
> issuing the
> command correctly.
> 
> Also, the SPARC's don't seem to be talking ethernet. I don't get e link light
> when I
> enter the above command. Is that normal for these things?

Just do "boot net". The broadcast handles everything else. If you don't
see anything in the log file of the rarp server, then it isn't getting
the request. Are you sure the switch is capable of 10mbit?

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Re: SPARCstation LX boot problem

[Ben Collins]

On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 07:07:03AM -0500, Corey Kovacs wrote:
> Ben, thanx for the offer of help.
> 
> In my /etc/ethers I have this...
> XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX machine.depauw.edu
> 
> where the X's are the hardware address of the ethernet card in the SPARC.
> and machine.depauw.edu is the name associated with the ip I want to give
> it in dns.
> 
> The way I understand it is the machine gets it's name from the rarp request
> then uses dns to do a lookup and get it's ip address, is that right?

No, rarpd does the name lookup, and sends the IP to the machine
requesting it. You should see requests in /var/log/daemon.log (btw, is
this running on an intel or sparc system?).

> I also found out that the office switch I am using to connect the 10Mbps
> SPARC's to the 100Mbps switch is not letting anything through so I have
> to look into that first since that is causing a bigger problem..

Yeah, you need to be able to send/recv broadcasts.

> I have tftp working, I've verified that by comming in from another machine.
> I'm not sure if the link to the tftpboot.img is right though. I have it as
> 
> .SUN4M
> 
> where the X's are the IP address I've given it in hex. I am not sure at all of
> the
> SUN4M extension is right or not since I haven't been able to connect directly 
> to
> 
> the tftp server from the SPARC's to create any log entries for debugging.

Should be right depending on the PROM version. You can create another
link without the ".SUN4M" extension to cover all basis.

> So, the short of it is I'll be working on finding out why this little switch 
> is
> not
> working, then back to rarp.

So far, it looks like you understand everything pretty well. Get that
broadcast setup (the switch problem), and you should be good to go.

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Re: SPARCstation LX boot problem

[Corey Kovacs]

Well I figured out what the problem with the switch I have was, bad cable.
Now
I can get to the outside world (and other machines on the switch itself)
so I should
be able to proceed normally.
With the setup noted in the previous message I give the openboot command
ok boot net ip.of.the.server
and I get errors indicating a timeout condition waiting for an RARP/ARP
packet. So
obviously, as you said Ben, this is not set up right, and I am probably
not issuing the
command correctly.
Also, the SPARC's don't seem to be talking ethernet. I don't get e link
light when I
enter the above command. Is that normal for these things?
 
Corey
Ben Collins wrote:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 04:19:26PM -0500, Corey Kovacs
wrote:
> Hello, I recently had 8 SAPRCstation LX's dumped in my lap that I'd
like
> to put
> debian on and I am having a bit of trouble.
The easiest way is tftp (which you can then use the CD for, so that
isn't a complete waste). It sounds like you have your rarpd setup wrong,
so let's try to get that working. What do you have in /etc/ethers?
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Re: SPARCstation LX boot problem

[Moritz Bunkus]

Hi.

> The way I understand it is the machine gets it's name from the rarp request
> then uses dns to do a lookup and get it's ip address, is that right?

My Ultra1 sends out a RARP request with its MAC address and gets its IP
address by the RARP server. Than it does a tftp request with its IP
address (no DNS lookups by the client - this isn't possible at this
stage as the client only knows the IP address, but not the network
address, default gateways or DNS servers).

On the tftp server I have set up links from the image to ,
where  is the client's IP address in hex, all upper case. No
.SUN4U or similar.

That works fine.

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Re: SPARCstation LX boot problem

[Corey Kovacs]

Ben, thanx for the offer of help.
In my /etc/ethers I have this...
XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX machine.depauw.edu
where the X's are the hardware address of the ethernet card in the SPARC.
and machine.depauw.edu is the name associated with the ip I want to
give
it in dns.
The way I understand it is the machine gets it's name from the rarp
request
then uses dns to do a lookup and get it's ip address, is that right?
I also found out that the office switch I am using to connect the 10Mbps
SPARC's to the 100Mbps switch is not letting anything through so I
have
to look into that first since that is causing a bigger problem..
I have tftp working, I've verified that by comming in from another machine.
I'm not sure if the link to the tftpboot.img is right though. I have
it as
.SUN4M
where the X's are the IP address I've given it in hex. I am not
sure at all of the
SUN4M extension is right or not since I haven't been able to connect
directly to
the tftp server from the SPARC's to create any log entries for debugging.
So, the short of it is I'll be working on finding out why this little
switch is not
working, then back to rarp.
Any suggestions though would be great.
 
Corey.
Ben Collins wrote:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 04:19:26PM -0500, Corey Kovacs
wrote:
> Hello, I recently had 8 SAPRCstation LX's dumped in my lap that I'd
like
> to put
> debian on and I am having a bit of trouble.
The easiest way is tftp (which you can then use the CD for, so that
isn't a complete waste). It sounds like you have your rarpd setup wrong,
so let's try to get that working. What do you have in /etc/ethers?
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Re: 2.4.12

[Joshua Uziel]

* Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011024 22:33]:
> sorry but whats vger? is there an ext3 patch for 2.4.13?

http://vger.samba.org/ ... where all the sparc patches go first and then
are later merged into Linus's tree.

There might be by now... there wasn't last I checked.

asynchronus device / not block device

[Del Campo, Damian]

I installed debian potato to a SS2 off of a CDrom. When the installation
reboots and starts the package installation, it can't mount the CDrom.

It says that the CDrom is "not a block device". What does this mean?

Figuring that maybe my CD rom is problem, I watched all the startup messages
and noticed that all my hard drives get listed as "syhchronus device"s and
then it shows their bandwidth whereas my CD rom says its "asynchronus". Is
this correct ?

Can anybody help ?



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  Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
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Re: 2.4.12

[Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz]

init_task.c:7: `INIT_MMAP' undeclared here (not in a function)



Now that's a known bug. I don't have the patch on hand, but I know that
it is fixed in vger CVS. Try 2.4.13?





sorry but whats vger? is there an ext3 patch for 2.4.13?

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Re: 2.4.12

[Ben Collins]

On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 06:53:33AM +0200, Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote:
> 
> >
> >Newer binutils changed the output of --version. If you edit
> >arch/sparc64/Makefile, look for the NEW_GAS line, and change --version
> >to -V, it will work again.
> >
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >
> Thanks alot Ben, I am wondering wheter there is a sparc/linux
> 
> question which you cannot answer ;-)

Honestly, there's a lot I cannot answer :)

> init_task.c:7: `INIT_MMAP' undeclared here (not in a function)

Now that's a known bug. I don't have the patch on hand, but I know that
it is fixed in vger CVS. Try 2.4.13?

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