Re: E450 woes

2002-01-09 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:46:21PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So I deicded to try 2.4.18pre2 from vger.samba.org
> 
> After compile and reboot I get this far...
> 
> Remapping the kernel... done.
> Booting Linux...
> Starting CPU 3... OK
> 
> After that I can't send a break to get back to the ok prompt.
> 
> Anyone had better luck? Or should I wait for things to be sorted out?

Try compiling a UP kernel, just to see if things change.

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Re: E450 woes

2002-01-09 Thread ryu1
Hello.

> So I deicded to try 2.4.18pre2 from vger.samba.org
> 
> After compile and reboot I get this far...
> 
> Remapping the kernel... done.
> Booting Linux...
> Starting CPU 3... OK

I run SunBlade1000 (not 100) with 2 cpus.

With 2.4.17 builded by gcc-3.0 from kernel-source-2.4.17*.deb,
Blade hangs up there.

And 2.4.17 builded by egcs64 works fine.

In my case,
after installing egcs64 sparc64-linux-gcc was still poing to gcc-3.0.

Does sparc64-linux-gcc on your Machine really point to egcs64?

If not, try
# update-alternatives --auto sparc64-linux-gcc

Ryuichi Kokubo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: Help is needed to install linux on sparc IPX

2002-01-09 Thread Ryan Kirkpatrick
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Tim Kent wrote:

> You can get a pin out on the 'net to make a Sun to DB25 cable, then
> hook your IPX up to a serial terminal, and it will become the system
> console.

Or just grab a Mac serial DIN (round, PS/2 like connector) to
DB9/25 cable, which is what I use on my Sparc IPX. They are pretty easy to
find at computer sales and the like. Then put a null modem adapter between
that cable and your PC, and you are set to go.

> You can always net boot your IPX with trivial FTP and reverse ARP, If
> you need a hand with this let me know.

I can't remember if with IPXs you can use the tftpboot.img or have
to do a NFS root during install. I know the IPCs require the latter, while
Sparc Classics/5/10/20 can use the former. See the very good directions in
the install documentation that is found in the disks-sparc part of the
debian archive for details.

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re:optical mouse

2002-01-09 Thread Onno Benschop

At 10:55 9/01/02 -0800, Alex Cavnar wrote:

I actually do have the special mouse pad that the mouse requires. My
problem is that the mouse does not even emit a laser beam when you boot
the system. I don't even know if it's supposed to do that, but I know
of no way to make it work.


IMHO, no light = dead (unless you are of a soldering iron bearing age and 
you got your scouting electronics badge :-)

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E450 woes

2002-01-09 Thread sstockton
So I deicded to try 2.4.18pre2 from vger.samba.org

After compile and reboot I get this far...

Remapping the kernel... done.
Booting Linux...
Starting CPU 3... OK

After that I can't send a break to get back to the ok prompt.

Anyone had better luck? Or should I wait for things to be sorted out?

-Shafer



Re: how to enter boot prompt for PC's Hyperterminal?

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Hicks
Gavinux Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I connect to SPARC IPX by reading
> http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html#q_5_1 
> 23. How can I connect a machine for an installation
> via a serial cable ?

I thought you were able to view the console..  Didn't you post a boot log
in your previous message?

And what's with all of these slashes (///) in your messages?  Is that some
weird form of quoting?

> Essentially, if there is no keyboard plugged in when
> the Sun has booted, it will use the serial interface
> (port A), By default it is set to 9600bps 8,n,1 
>  What kind of cable should I use. I made the
> conection to PC serial port and use HyperTerminal on
> PC, the cable I made is:
> 
> SPARC Port A PC COM2
>RXD TXD
>TXD RXD
>GND GND
> Is this the right one?///

null-modem cables are a bit more complicated than that, though I must admit
I've never tried just using those three wires.  Cyclades has a document on
cabling [http://www.cyclades.com/solutions/techtalk/techtalk15.php], though
I guess it looks like IPXs use 8 pin mini-din connectors, and I don't know
how to wire those..  I'm sure there's some stuff floating around on the
'net..

> /// If I use minicom in PC-Linux, Which keys should I
> press to simulated STOP A key?///

You can send a break with CTRL-A, then F

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how to enter boot prompt for PC's Hyperterminal?

2002-01-09 Thread Gavinux Li
I connect to SPARC IPX by reading
http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html#q_5_1 
23. How can I connect a machine for an installation
via a serial cable ?
Essentially, if there is no keyboard plugged in when
the Sun has booted, it will use the serial interface
(port A), By default it is set to 9600bps 8,n,1 
 What kind of cable should I use. I made the
conection to PC serial port and use HyperTerminal on
PC, the cable I made is:

SPARC Port A PC COM2
   RXD TXD
   TXD RXD
   GND GND
Is this the right one?///

You can force the serial console from the boot (ok)
prompt: 

   ok setenv input-device ttya
   ok setenv output-device ttya
/// Does it input in the SPARC kerboard? Otherwise how
can I enter boot prompt from HyperTerminal, How to
simulate STOP A key from HyperTerminal on PC side? ///
On the other (PC?) side running any terminal emulator
will work (kermit, minicom, seyon) 
/// If I use minicom in PC-Linux, Which keys should I
press to simulated STOP A key?///

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Re: remote serial console on Ultra 10

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Hicks
Marcin Sochacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about connecting an external modem and dialing there
> in case of failure.
> 
> How do I configure the following:
> 1) remote access to OpenBoot console,
> 2) remote access to SILO prompt and Linux shell?
> 
> The modem is Multitech MT2834BLK, which is said to be very good for ISP
> applications.

Hmm.  I wouldn't want to hook up a machine in such a way as to allow anyone
who dials that number to have console access..  War dialers still exist..

Hooking up another system that you could SSH to would be much safer. 
Either find a random nearby box, or plop down some cash for a Cyclades
terminal server box.

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re:optical mouse

2002-01-09 Thread Alex Cavnar
I actually do have the special mouse pad that the mouse requires. My
problem is that the mouse does not even emit a laser beam when you boot
the system. I don't even know if it's supposed to do that, but I know
of no way to make it work. 

My keyboard has a little door on the underside of it. Is there a jumper
underneath there or anything I'm suppoed to set? I also have another
keyboard for it, if it turns out I'm using the wrong keyboard. The guy
I bought the machine from said you had to buy the mouse and keyboard as
a matched set, so I'm assuming that my one of the keyboards is supposed
to work with the mouse. 

FYI. The previous owner stated that he could not even get the mouse to
run under Solaris, so it may be that the mouse is non-functional...

Thanks for all the help!

--Alex Cavnar

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Re: Optical mouse?

2002-01-09 Thread Mario Lombardo
If you *really* can't find one on the net (sparc hardware list?), let 
me know, and I'll attempt to scan mine.


Mario



Greetings,

I have a SparcStation 5, and I recently got a keyboard/ optical mouse
pair from the guy I bought the system from. He said he could never get
the mouse to work on the machine, so it could just be that it's
non-functioning, but are there any tricks or techniques one must use to
make the Sun optical mouse work on my machine? Note that a regular
analog mouse works on my machine, so I know it's not my mouse port. Any
help would be appreciated!

--Alex

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Re: remote serial console on Ultra 10

2002-01-09 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:44:46AM +0100, Marcin Sochacki wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have the following setup:
> - Sun UltraSparc 10 machine,
> - Happy Meal fast-ethernet interface,
> - Creator 3D card with VGA monitor,
> - Debian Potato.
> 
> The server is connected in some remote place, so I can easily connect
> there using SSH when everything runs fine.
> But the problem arises when something goes wrong and I need access to
> the console.
> 
> I'm thinking about connecting an external modem and dialing there
> in case of failure.
> 
> How do I configure the following:
> 1) remote access to OpenBoot console,
> 2) remote access to SILO prompt and Linux shell?
> 
> The modem is Multitech MT2834BLK, which is said to be very good for ISP
> applications.

Just connect the modem to Serial A and configure it for autoanswer. You
should be able to dial-in using mincom or similar. Make sure the modem
sets up at 9600baud. To configure shell login, edit /etc/inittab and
uncomment the T0 line (for ttyS0 getty) and remember to run "init q" to
enable (or reboot). One you have that you can login as if you were on
the console. The OpenBoot/SILO access is automatic. You can send a
serial "break" to drop to OpenBoot.

Alternatively, you can setup a second machine that you can ssh to, and
connect it to the Ultra via a NULL modem cable.

Ben

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remote serial console on Ultra 10

2002-01-09 Thread Marcin Sochacki
Hello,

I have the following setup:
- Sun UltraSparc 10 machine,
- Happy Meal fast-ethernet interface,
- Creator 3D card with VGA monitor,
- Debian Potato.

The server is connected in some remote place, so I can easily connect
there using SSH when everything runs fine.
But the problem arises when something goes wrong and I need access to
the console.

I'm thinking about connecting an external modem and dialing there
in case of failure.

How do I configure the following:
1) remote access to OpenBoot console,
2) remote access to SILO prompt and Linux shell?

The modem is Multitech MT2834BLK, which is said to be very good for ISP
applications.

Marcin



Re: Ultra1 2.4.x hme timeouts

2002-01-09 Thread mccoy
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Rich Sahlender wrote:

> I'm getting timeouts on my Ultra1 hme with all 2.4.x kernels
> through 2.4.13:

Hi,

I've got an Ultra1, too, and experienced the same problems with kernel 2.4.x

> kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
> kernel: eth0: transmit timed out, resetting
> kernel: eth0: Happy Status 0303 TX[03ff:0101]

Same error here.

All I can say is that I never was able to get rid of that problem. On 
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org someone told me that it's a bus problem on the old 
machines, but I'm not sure if that's correct. It also only seems to happen with 
Ultra1 E versions, the ones with a Happy Meal Ethernet. At the end I gave up 
and am using 2.2.x now, which works fine and not worse than 2.4.x.
Well, if you get to solve the problem, I'd be interested in it, too. :)

Greets,

Janine

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Re: Optical mouse?

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 06:54:40AM +, Paul Hedderly wrote:
> If you don't have the mat, there is a postscript file around that will
> print a "mat" on a laser printer for you. I've got a copy around
> somewhere - you 'll find it on the internet too. Let me know if you need
> it.

Ok - google just found it for me:

http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/237/2001/10/0/6940477/

http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/sun3mousepad.html

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Fw: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2

2002-01-09 Thread Ingo T. Storm
I think this is the one you reffered to;-)

Ingo

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I think this is the one you referred to,


Steve Grady



The Mouse Pad
Save this as a file, the pass it through a postscript printer and you have a
replacement for the Sparc mouse pad.




%!PS-Adobe-2.0
%% Sun 3 mouse pad
%% Copyright 1987, Beak Soft Inc.
%% All Rights Reserved
%% Permission is granted to copy and use this without charge
%% as long as the copyright notices remain intact.
%%
%%

 gsave
 90 rotate
 /ZapfChancery-MediumItalic findfont 24 scalefont setfont
 5 -40 moveto
 (This is a mouse pad.  It works!) show
 ( 1987, BeakSoft Inc.)
 dup
 stringwidth pop
 10.9 72 mul
 exch sub
 dup /copyr exch def
 -40 moveto
 show
 /Symbol findfont 24 scalefont setfont
 (ã)
 dup
 stringwidth pop
 copyr exch sub
 -40 moveto
 show
 grestore

 .8 setlinewidth
 50 0 moveto
 250
 { 2.4 0 rmoveto gsave 0 11 72 mul rlineto stroke grestore } repeat

 .6 setlinewidth
 50 0 moveto
 300 { 0 2.8 rmoveto gsave 8.5 72 mul 0 rlineto stroke grestore } repeat

 showpage


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wallbridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 29 October 2001 5:54 PM
To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2


You can get a postscript file that you can print out and use as a mouse pad.
I have seen it in action, but I have never tried it myself. What my friend
did was just print it out on a good laser printer and have it laminated. It
worked for him.

I don't have a link to it, but I am sure you can find it on Google. If not
let me know and I will ask my friend.

shawn

-Original Message-
From: Del Campo, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 7:44 PM
To: 'debian-sparc@lists.debian.org'
Subject: RE: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2


Thanks,

  Damian Del Campo,  B.Eng (Comp Sys - Hons)
  Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
  Phone  08 8401 7037 (Flinders St)
  Fax  08 8231 1385
  E-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 29 October 2001 11:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2
>
> Del,
>
> Follow the instructions below.
>
>
> Steve Grady
>
>
>
>
> The Mouse Pad
> Save this as a file, the pass it through a postscript printer and you have
> a
> replacement for the Sparc mouse pad.
>
>
>
>
> %!PS-Adobe-2.0
> %% Sun 3 mouse pad
> %% Copyright 1987, Beak Soft Inc.
> %% All Rights Reserved
> %% Permission is granted to copy and use this without charge
> %% as long as the copyright notices remain intact.
> %%
> %%
>
>  gsave
>  90 rotate
>  /ZapfChancery-MediumItalic findfont 24 scalefont setfont
>  5 -40 moveto
>  (This is a mouse pad.  It works!) show
>  ( 1987, BeakSoft Inc.)
>  dup
>  stringwidth pop
>  10.9 72 mul
>  exch sub
>  dup /copyr exch def
>  -40 moveto
>  show
>  /Symbol findfont 24 scalefont setfont
>  (ã)
>  dup
>  stringwidth pop
>  copyr exch sub
>  -40 moveto
>  show
>  grestore
>
>  .8 setlinewidth
>  50 0 moveto
>  250
>  { 2.4 0 rmoveto gsave 0 11 72 mul rlineto stroke grestore } repeat
>
>  .6 setlinewidth
>  50 0 moveto
>  300 { 0 2.8 rmoveto gsave 8.5 72 mul 0 rlineto stroke grestore } repeat
>
>  showpage
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Del Campo, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 29 October 2001 12:00 PM
> To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2
>
>
> Hi, having just completed my installation of debian on a SparkStation2
> that
> I acquired I was upset taht I couldnt' move my mouse (all the buttons
> work).
> I thought that it was stuffed but now realise that I don't have the pad
> for
> it. (its an optical mouse)
>
> Where do I go from here?
> 1) I pressume its not worth buying a type4 pad.
> 2) What other types of mouse/keyboard are compatible with a SS2 ie. type
> 5/6
> etc
> 3) Where could I buy a mechanical version? Currently looking on Ebay.
> 4) If I cut out the spacer in a PS2 plug, could I use it & what
> functionality would  it lack. ie 6 pins instead of 8.
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Damian Del Campo,  B.Eng (Comp Sys - Hons)
>   Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
>   Phone  08 8401 7037 (Flinders St)
>   Fax  08 8231 1385
>   E-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andreas Behnert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2001 5:03
> > To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: CD Instalation / "not block device"
> >
> >
> > "Del Campo, Damian" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, I changed the CD drive in my SunSparc2 as I thought it may be the
> > cause
> > > of my installation woes. Funnily enough, I could boot to it and the
> base
> > > installation was a sinch and was all from the CD.
> > > However, after the base inst

Re: Optical mouse?

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:24:56AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:19:26PM -0800, Alex Cavnar wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >  
> > I have a SparcStation 5, and I recently got a keyboard/ optical mouse
> > pair from the guy I bought the system from. He said he could never get
> > the mouse to work on the machine, so it could just be that it's
> > non-functioning, but are there any tricks or techniques one must use to
> > make the Sun optical mouse work on my machine? Note that a regular
> > analog mouse works on my machine, so I know it's not my mouse port. Any
> > help would be appreciated!
> 
> Do you have the special mouse pad for it? It's metal and has some
> red/blue gridlines, from what I remember.

If you don't have the mat, there is a postscript file around that will
print a "mat" on a laser printer for you. I've got a copy around
somewhere - you 'll find it on the internet too. Let me know if you need
it.

--
Paul



Re: Optical mouse?

2002-01-09 Thread Robin-David Hammond

failing that, i have a spare optical mouse if you belive that one to be broken,

(no spare pads sorry)



robin-david hammond



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-- Carl Ludwig Siegel


On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Ben Collins wrote:

> To: Alex Cavnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Optical mouse?
> Cc: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> 
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:19:26PM -0800, Alex Cavnar wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >  
> > I have a SparcStation 5, and I recently got a keyboard/ optical mouse
> > pair from the guy I bought the system from. He said he could never get
> > the mouse to work on the machine, so it could just be that it's
> > non-functioning, but are there any tricks or techniques one must use to
> > make the Sun optical mouse work on my machine? Note that a regular
> > analog mouse works on my machine, so I know it's not my mouse port. Any
> > help would be appreciated!
> 
> Do you have the special mouse pad for it? It's metal and has some
> red/blue gridlines, from what I remember.
> 
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Re: Optical mouse?

2002-01-09 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:19:26PM -0800, Alex Cavnar wrote:
> Greetings,
>  
> I have a SparcStation 5, and I recently got a keyboard/ optical mouse
> pair from the guy I bought the system from. He said he could never get
> the mouse to work on the machine, so it could just be that it's
> non-functioning, but are there any tricks or techniques one must use to
> make the Sun optical mouse work on my machine? Note that a regular
> analog mouse works on my machine, so I know it's not my mouse port. Any
> help would be appreciated!

Do you have the special mouse pad for it? It's metal and has some
red/blue gridlines, from what I remember.

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Re: 2.4.17 on an E450

2002-01-09 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:08:39PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What are the apropriate tools to build a kernel for this machine?
> 
> I'm running 'testing' at the moment and can't get a successful build.

Install egcs64.

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