Problems with debian and SF V240
Greets, I tried installing Debian, and other versions of Linux for sparc, but in all cases I would get a memory fault once the ramdisk would start loading up. Anyone had similiar problems, or experience, and/or possibly a solution to the problem? Dragutin
Linux on a Sun Enterprise 5000?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is by far the weirdest question I have ever sent to this list. I'm active as a voluntary in a local center to teach kids programming (Python), Unix, Povray and about everything that is cool. We do this on about ten different Suns, mostly Ultra's running Woody. We got these machines 'sponsored' second-hand because they were abandoned by companies anyway. The kids are very happy with it, from NEdit to nethack-qt and everything in between. Even mplayer works (with weird colors ;)) Thanks for all your work so far! Recently, however, we've been offered an Ultra Enterprise 5000. No joke. Solaris is the obvious choice, of course. But would it be possible to run Linux SMP on such a dragon? Can I help with it? And for what big purposes could we best use the thing? I already have some ideas :) Thanks, Pieter-Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3rc2 (SunOS) iD8DBQE/inCtEjwC+DbpTB4RAtllAKCLnP4eBUGqnPtMkINOTGrKoDhmDgCgzlK0 W8ryI6w17DVN+1I9eVAbPMs= =Toqw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Problems with debian and SF V240
On Monday 13 Oct 2003 09:38, Dragutin Cvetkovic (BH/EEI) wrote: Greets, I tried installing Debian, and other versions of Linux for sparc, but in all cases I would get a memory fault once the ramdisk would start loading up. Anyone had similiar problems, or experience, and/or possibly a solution to the problem? Um... perhaps you have faulty memory? David. -- My other .sig is funny.
RE: Problems with debian and SF V240
crossed my mind but solaris works fine. -Original Message- From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 12:54 To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problems with debian and SF V240 On Monday 13 Oct 2003 09:38, Dragutin Cvetkovic (BH/EEI) wrote: Greets, I tried installing Debian, and other versions of Linux for sparc, but in all cases I would get a memory fault once the ramdisk would start loading up. Anyone had similiar problems, or experience, and/or possibly a solution to the problem? Um... perhaps you have faulty memory? David. -- My other .sig is funny. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with debian and SF V240
On Monday 13 Oct 2003 12:58, Dragutin Cvetkovic (BH/EEI) wrote: crossed my mind but solaris works fine. But does Solaris do any memory intensive tasks? It might be worth testing the memory somehow or trying different memory. At the very least you could then eliminate that as the problem. David. -- My other .sig is funny.
Re: Linux on a Sun Enterprise 5000?
If it helps any, I'm running a 14 cpu E4500 with SCSI drives attach under 2.4.21. I had very few problems getting it up and running with Debian Woody (r1) with a Sun keyboard VGA multi-sync monitor attached. Once I had everything setup, I switched to serial. I just need the SOC+ drivers to work now. I think I've added the microcode properly, but it still doesn't work. On Monday 13 October 2003 04:30, Pieter-Paul Spiertz wrote: Hi, This is by far the weirdest question I have ever sent to this list. I'm active as a voluntary in a local center to teach kids programming (Python), Unix, Povray and about everything that is cool. We do this on about ten different Suns, mostly Ultra's running Woody. We got these machines 'sponsored' second-hand because they were abandoned by companies anyway. The kids are very happy with it, from NEdit to nethack-qt and everything in between. Even mplayer works (with weird colors ;)) Thanks for all your work so far! Recently, however, we've been offered an Ultra Enterprise 5000. No joke. Solaris is the obvious choice, of course. But would it be possible to run Linux SMP on such a dragon? Can I help with it? And for what big purposes could we best use the thing? I already have some ideas :) Thanks, Pieter-Paul -- S.W.
Re: Linux on a Sun Enterprise 5000?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steven, On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Steven Wilcoxon wrote: Recently, however, we've been offered an Ultra Enterprise 5000. (..) Could such a dragon run Linux? If it helps any, I'm running a 14 cpu E4500 with SCSI drives attach under 2.4.21. I had very few problems getting it up and running with Debian Woody (r1) with a Sun keyboard VGA multi-sync monitor attached. Once I had everything setup, I switched to serial. Does Linux 2.4.21 fully utilize all 14 cpu's? All 14 CPU's are running happily. you should see how fast the kernel compile with -j14. If I remember correctly, I went SMP initially with the 2.4.18-SMP kernel from Debian. But, I wanted some of the improvements in the newer kernel and I installed devfs as well. Cool! :) Wow, Linux has truly come a long way. It will be interesting to compare the performance of 2.6 final to Solaris 9 :) I'll have to dive into SOC+ stuff too, I guess... :) There are reports that the SOC+ code got broken, but it could be that the microcode from Solaris just wasn't installed correctly. Even if the SOC+ driver does work correctly, you still need to boot from SCSI according to old docs. I guess there isn't any new documentation on this? I can only find old posts.. [1] Anyway, thanks for your help! I'll try to return to this list when I have actually installed the beast :) Regards, Pieter-Paul [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2002/debian-sparc-200201/msg00121.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3rc2 (SunOS) iD8DBQE/isnxEjwC+DbpTB4RAlXKAJwMI7puDgKmtZoSTiCrj6+y3+D+yQCdGlxH Rs4o2CynSSAe6ZQ//h69THk= =zwZr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Hello
Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) *Begin rant ! Last week I was given a couple of Sparc Ultra1 Creator 3d workstations (saved from the skip !) I plugged in and sat down to learn Solaris 2.6 Wow - that was dull ... It was a minimum install, no C compiler - nothing much going on in X ... I got bored quickly. I'm running Redhat 9 on a couple of 1.3Ghz Athlons as my main machines, so I would go for linux. Did some research, found I could use Debian or errr not ! I don't have a SCSI cdrom and couldn't figure out how to remove the lid. I undid screws and shook things, nothing happened so I put them back in :-) So I downloaded the Debian install tftpboot image, and after some poking around and swearing got it to boot from the server. It was a typical Unix fight, but I won the war. It took a while :-) I shutdown solaris (got a boot prompt) took a wild guess from my limited experience with suns (sun3s years ago before they hit my skip !) and type 'net boot' or was it 'boot net' - you get the idea. And bingo - one Debian installer :-) It even looked good ! I opted to re-partition, created a / partition (most of the disk) and swap (what was left). It installed the base image, so far so good. Then it asked what type of machine I wanted - I said a 'desktop' It downloaded for a few hours and all was great. The net connection wasn't fantastic and it had to re-try a few things, but it all looked good in the end. Reboot ... one base linux install. With lots ... of nothing No X - no X utils ? Ho hum . It did have ssh so logged in from my main machine and did apt-get install synaptic - and started the dumb man install utility ! Got X and kernel source for the kernel version it was running. Then the fun starts ! X is configured for god knows what, it wont start :-[Doesn't matter what I try I cant get bastard thing to go into graphics mode. Much poking around with google on my main machine I find I should use xf86configure - it runs ! My problems are solved - NOT ! What a complete sack of shit that was, I wasted a good hour creating XF86Config files that don't work- time to read some stuff on Xfree86.org 40 mins later I find I can do 'XFree86 -configure' or something similar. Again this does something ! But nothing good :-( Lots of reading later I find I need the sunffb device or something .. xf86config didn't even offer this ! I now have a graphics screen :-) Yea ... i'm done ! nope ! Keyboard doesn't work .. all the scan codes are wrong. Another hours google hacking later I have 9 lines - 9 F lines (its keyboard, how much configuration does a keyboard need) added to XF86Config. I now have keys ! Yippe !!! Just not the correct keys :-( Almost, but not quite. I take a wild guess at the config and end up with keyboard setup that works and mouse that works. Ra ! Ra ! Ra ! Time to play X - xdm (gdm or whatever) works. I login I apt-get some stuff no sound ... no video playback :-( I compile a kernel or 10... I could write a 1000 lines on how this didn't work, but a brief summary is I could get a kernel that worked, but ethernet didnt behave and dhcpd didnt work with it. I gave up and found a pre-compiled ultra kernel from apt, installed it. Mostly works, no smbmount support :-( but its a good one. I then install my favourite bits (pan,evolution etc). The apt versions are looking very old, I assume the kde/gnome libs aren't very new and porting is a problem. Making sound work was another 3 hours of reading, compiling modules, and configuring bits. Mostly because I cant find a nice simple document to tell us new to sun people what we need. Got it working in the end, but all in all it was much more of a fight than I expected, it doesn't compare well with my experience of linux on Intel. End rant ! :-) That said now its configured its ok - seems to work well :-) Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? Jon
Re: Hello
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) I hate to say this, but it seems like 90% of the problems you had would have been answered in the install docs. So your wasted time was your own fault. I don't mean to be rude, but you did send this long rant about shit and crap, and I felt the need to point out your own mistake. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/
Re: Hello
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 18:29, Bryan W. Headley wrote: Jonathan Andrews wrote: Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? It's a very long story. Essentially, things get dropped regularly from configuration scripts -- like understanding that sun's have sbus frame buffer, sunmouse drivers, etc. They get a binary right, and then the stuff gets dropped again. If you know what the guys tend to do wrong, you're okay, because all the code's there. Telling them doesn't help much either; they tend to say that they don't have Sparc boxes at home. Your best bet is to offer to beta-test, or... 1) Aurora Sparc dist (RedHat 8) 2) SuSE Sparc 3) gentoo Sparc 4) Slackware Sparc 5) Mandrake (?) RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. The X maintainers truly don't have sparcs, that's why they mess up. And of course, the code COMPILES... Thanks for the info :-) I shake your hand as the only person this week more bitter and cynical than me :-) :-) Whats gentoo sparc like ? Has anybody had a go - if linux going to be difficult it might as well be very difficult ! Jon
Re: Hello
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 18:29, Bryan W. Headley wrote: Jonathan Andrews wrote: Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? It's a very long story. Essentially, things get dropped regularly from configuration scripts -- like understanding that sun's have sbus frame buffer, sunmouse drivers, etc. They get a binary right, and then the stuff gets dropped again. If you know what the guys tend to do wrong, you're okay, because all the code's there. Telling them doesn't help much either; they tend to say that they don't have Sparc boxes at home. Your best bet is to offer to beta-test, or... Whats the point of Beta testing if you imply the outcome doesn't change the distribution ? Or am I reading to much into this ? I like apt-get its good (not great ! - I cant uninstall some things for exmaple, and if I try and remove a kde like the useless knews it tries to remove KDE !). I was impressed with the online install, i've never installed an OS over a broadband connection directly onto a machine. Jon
Re: Hello
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:59, Ben Collins wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) I hate to say this, but it seems like 90% of the problems you had would have been answered in the install docs. So your wasted time was your own fault. I don't mean to be rude, but you did send this long rant about shit and crap, and I felt the need to point out your own mistake. Well I did say i'm probably stupid ! I didnt crap once !! http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/ But what install notes ? Is this another linux logic trap where I have to install to get the notes to tell me how to install ;-) The notes on the above link take you to the standard Debian documents, all I wanted was the sparc specific stuff. Searching debian for things like xfree86 sparc gets lots of hits, most are not relevant or German ! I've heard this is Debian type thing, its the stupid users fault for now knowing how my project/distro/system is organised ? Thats number 2 in pet hates next to read the source or its always worked like that - how is anybody with a life supposed to swallow enough of this to get started ? Jon PS Sorry for the people I've emailed directly - I didn't notice the reply-to address is the user not the list !
Re: Hello
RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. The X maintainers truly don't have sparcs, that's why they mess up. And of course, the code COMPILES... Huh? Brandon certainly does have an UltraSPARC 5. Oh, and I am the guy in charge of Debian SPARC, for all intents and purposes. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/
Re: Hello
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: I like apt-get its good (not great ! - I cant uninstall some things for exmaple, and if I try and remove a kde like the useless knews it tries to remove KDE !). No it doesn't. It tries to remove some metapackages which are mainly useful for installing stuff. Frank
RE: Hello
-Original Message- From: Ben Collins On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) I hate to say this, but it seems like 90% of the problems you had would have been answered in the install docs. First install of Debian ever was on a Sun. I was very familiar with Solaris, though. But I used the install docs, and it went like a breeze, terminal and X and all... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/install As far as released versions, you may want to check Debian's release methods...stable, testing and unstable. That should tell you a few things about the old versions thing, there are very good reasons to that. And about kernel compiles... Have you ever configured an x86 kernel? If yes, the limited number of options sor the Sparc architecture should make you confortable. Nico
RE: Hello
-Original Message- From: Jonathan Andrews http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/ But what install notes ? Is this another linux logic trap where I have to install to get the notes to tell me how to install ;-) Go to http://www.debian.org/ Then in the menu select Installation manual. You will end up here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual Then click on Installation manual for SPARC, which will take you there: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/install How tough was that? How complete can a documentation be? You more in-depth help. then I can strongly recommend the document mentionned here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200306/msg00278.html http://www.giac.org/practical/GCUX/Guillaume_Tamboise_GCUX.pdf Nico
Re: Hello
Just so everyone can see my shame ! Jon Oh wow, look. There's a link to the Install Manual in the second section of the page. How convenient. It's really extensive, and that link is to the SPARC specific install docs. Dozens of people have spent a lot of time making this docs, and providing useful links for other things people do after installs (like setting up X). Doh ! Me stupid - but also the page naughty for not sticking it in the Index at the top. Its a great document, but with all that was going on (and clicking the top index in order) - I missed it.. I read the Paragraph but didn't note it as a link, I was following the index at the top ! Jon
Re: Hello
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:07:31PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. If you'd come to the Linux Expo at Olympia - you would have seen Debian on a Sparc :) [Admittedly, an old Sparc20] Feel free to ask any questions that are appropriate at any Debian stand at any exhibition. If they'd wanted it as a demo. - they could have had the same distribution on my Alpha PWS 433 Debian _do_ have Alpha and Sparc developers and they keep things well up to date. I can, however, sympathise with XFree86 problems. Have fun with Debian and apt-get - the initial install's the worst part :) Andy
Re: Hello
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in this mail, I'll reply with a few common solutions, just like I used them myself. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jonathan Andrews wrote: I plugged in and sat down to learn Solaris 2.6 Wow - that was dull ... That's not really fair. From the Solaris release timeline: 1997 Solaris 2.6 is available 1998 Solaris 7 is available 2000 Solaris 8 is available 2002 Solaris 9 is available Solaris 9 comes with GCC and GNOME 1.4, if you want it to. I opted to re-partition, created a / partition (most of the disk) and swap (what was left). You should have made /dev/hda3 the 'Whole disk' partition, like for example at [1]. It's documented at [2], but I think it deserves more attention. It should be at [3] too. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2001/debian-sparc-200110/msg00033.html [2] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.4 [3] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.3 X is configured for god knows what, it wont start :-[ In general, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' starts Debian's specific configurator. This works fine for Ultra 1's, if you know that what kind of video card it has. However, with Woody, it does not return working configurations for Ultra 10s. Using Google, I found a working XF86Config-4 for these in minutes. I've had no keyboard problems. I apt-get some stuff no sound ... In my case (Woody), this was a matter of rmmod soundcore insmod audio insmod cs4231 (which is already default for Debian unstable) and if necessary, playing with audioctl to get the sound out of the boxes instead of the internal speaker. I compile a kernel or 10... FAQ. You'd better have a known working compiler (GCC 3.2.3) and copy your config from [4] instead of choosing from the kernel defaults. [4] ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/sun4u/kernel-config Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? This is a general problem with Debian. Releases do not happen often, so people accuse the project of shipping ancient software. This is the same on the i386 platform. Some of your critic is deserved; I would like some changes to the installation manual as well. Most of the information is there, however, never at the place where I'd expect it. The first time that I'd read it, I was confused at what boot methods I actually needed (I ended up having a dhcpd, bootp, tftpd and rarpd, while I only needed the latter two.) Some of the FAQs on this list should be added too, I think. I'm available to help with this. Whom should I talk with? Regards, Pieter-Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3rc2 (SunOS) iD8DBQE/ivm8EjwC+DbpTB4RAqRPAKCrxfmOeQCXCQ63R2Tk4dwfPJIRIwCgkKtJ c9ndzvQ1e1TAwlRpU1MCxp8= =GF2j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Unstable
Debian newbie question. If Unstable is more up to date than stable can I/how do I switch apt to update from the newer archive ? I'm after later sparc builds of Gnome-libs and kde-libs etc... or do I need to build them myself from source - after building gcc ? Also from people who have done this how architecture neutral are the gnome-lib kdelib sources ? Is it likely I can build a new fangled desktop from the bottom up or will I be in for tracking down obscure porting bugs as well as dependency. I can cope with difficult compiles, but I'm probably not up to fixing source bugs. Thanks, Jon
Re: Unstable
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 00:56, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Debian newbie question. If Unstable is more up to date than stable can I/how do I switch apt to update from the newer archive ? It is indeed more current, but obviously less stable. The easiest way to switch is to edit your /etc/sources.list file and change every occurance of stable to unstable. Also from people who have done this how architecture neutral are the gnome-lib kdelib sources ? Is it likely I can build a new fangled desktop from the bottom up or will I be in for tracking down obscure porting bugs as well as dependency. I can cope with difficult compiles, but I'm probably not up to fixing source bugs. I should imagine you can just apt-get everything you need. David. -- My other .sig is funny.
libssl0.9.7 build fails sparc32
Not certain what the best list is for this ... I've been struggling to get openssl to compile in debian with apt-build for awhile. A week ago I easily built from source (straight from openssl site) but debian build with apt-build always dies with: = chmod 700 debian/openssl/etc/ssl/private dh_fixperms -X etc/ssl/private dh_perl dh_shlibdeps -l`pwd` -Xlibssl.so /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib64/ld-linux.so.2: cannot execute binary file dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on `debian/libssl0.9.7/usr/lib/v9/libcrypto.so.0.9.7' gave error exit status 1 dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 Error while building libssl0.9.7 ! Sorry, can't find libssl0.9.7, is it already installed? (Remove it first, or try running 'apt-get clean') = I'm trying hard to stay within debian bounds because once I stray to non-debian source compile it's harder to hold the pieces together. Does anyone have a suggestion re getting this package to compile with apt-build? Thanks, Heitzso
Re: Unstable
David Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 00:56, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Debian newbie question. If Unstable is more up to date than stable can I/how do I switch apt to update from the newer archive ? It is indeed more current, but obviously less stable. The easiest way to switch is to edit your /etc/sources.list file and change every occurance of stable to unstable. It's my understanding that you don't want to do this for the security line; something to do with the way security patches are backported first to stable and then later get implemented in unstable, or something similar. I also have a vague understanding that you want both stable and unstable listed, with the unstable lines appearing first (for priority); otherwise, packages that aren't currently being worked on in unstable but that have remained the same since stable won't be available for installation. But again, don't take my word as gospel. -- Kent
Re: libssl0.9.7 build fails sparc32
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 08:54:12PM -0400, Heitzso wrote: Not certain what the best list is for this ... I've been struggling to get openssl to compile in debian with apt-build for awhile. A week ago I easily built from source (straight from openssl site) but debian build with apt-build always dies with: = chmod 700 debian/openssl/etc/ssl/private dh_fixperms -X etc/ssl/private dh_perl dh_shlibdeps -l`pwd` -Xlibssl.so /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib64/ld-linux.so.2: cannot execute binary file dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on `debian/libssl0.9.7/usr/lib/v9/libcrypto.so.0.9.7' gave error exit status 1 dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 Error while building libssl0.9.7 ! Sorry, can't find libssl0.9.7, is it already installed? (Remove it first, or try running 'apt-get clean') = Why is debian/libssl0.9.7/usr/lib/v9/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 64-bit? If it is, then that's the problem. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/
