Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-17 Thread Michael Andersen

Heitzso wrote:


Current debian unstable ssl (libssl and openssl) is 0.9.7c-5
Could you upgrade using 'apt-build install libssl0.9.7'
and let me know what happens?  I assume
'apt-build install openssl' is equivalent in that both
work against the same source files and build setup.
Thanks.


I am pleased to learn about apt-build. Didn't know that such a thing 
existed in Debian. Unfortunately I cannot get apt-build to work on my 
box for the time being (...guess I have too many config changes behind 
apt's back.)


As the box in question currently serves as my router/firewall, I cannot 
afford to take it down for the necessary changes right now.


I should be able to check whether apt-build of libssl0.9.7 will provide 
a speedup simular to the one I experienced when building openssl0.9.7b 
manually (with -O2 -mv8) when I have my other Sun box in operation 1-2 
weeks from now.


Best Regards,

Michael Andersen





Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-17 Thread Heitzso

Current debian unstable ssl (libssl and openssl) is 0.9.7c-5
Could you upgrade using 'apt-build install libssl0.9.7'
and let me know what happens?  I assume
'apt-build install openssl' is equivalent in that both
work against the same source files and build setup.
Thanks.

And, yes, the decreased time is why I've been fighting
it -- I want that 2-3 second ssl setup time.  lsh gave
it to me w/o compiling from source for ssh2 and cvs-over-ssh2
but email-over-tls-libssl is still the agonizingly slow 10 seconds.



Michael Andersen wrote:


Heitzso wrote:


Problem is current libssl package doesn't build in sparc32
environment.  There's a bug in the package build setup.

BTW, lsh was recommended and it works wonders.  Slightly
less than 2 seconds to setup ssh/cvs-over-ssh, which is
remarkably better than the 10 or so seconds for setting
up ssh via openssl.  My email TSL still routes via openssl/libssl
and takes the 10 seconds, but otherwise ...

I recently built openssl-0.9.7b myself on my SS20 (SM61) debian 
"unstable" box (with -mv8 -O2). I don't recall any major problems 
doing that, and the authentication time was reduced from well beyond 
your 10 seconds to somewhere around 2-3 seconds.


Best Regards,

Michael Andersen





Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-17 Thread Michael Andersen

Heitzso wrote:


Problem is current libssl package doesn't build in sparc32
environment.  There's a bug in the package build setup.

BTW, lsh was recommended and it works wonders.  Slightly
less than 2 seconds to setup ssh/cvs-over-ssh, which is
remarkably better than the 10 or so seconds for setting
up ssh via openssl.  My email TSL still routes via openssl/libssl
and takes the 10 seconds, but otherwise ...

I recently built openssl-0.9.7b myself on my SS20 (SM61) debian 
"unstable" box (with -mv8 -O2). I don't recall any major problems doing 
that, and the authentication time was reduced from well beyond your 10 
seconds to somewhere around 2-3 seconds.


Best Regards,

Michael Andersen



Re: Packages stuck in Uploaded

2003-10-17 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:19:07PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> You probably just want to give this package back to the buildd:
> 
> devel/ocamldsort_0.14.1-1: Uploaded by buildd-vore [optional:out-of-date]
>   Previous state was Building until 2003 Aug 31 19:33:27

James or Frederic(neuro) would be able to handle this.

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Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-17 Thread Ben Collins
> I've tried changinr video depths from 24 to 16 (same behaviour), and 
> tried changing the video driver from ati to fbdev (which locks the 
> machine when X starts).

Ah, so it uses ati driver. I've been using that same driver on my SB100,
and I haven't seen any issues like that. Then again, X is on vt11 for
me, and I have 1-10,12 used as terminals, so I'm not switching to
non-existent terminals.

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Packages stuck in Uploaded

2003-10-17 Thread Matthew Wilcox

You probably just want to give this package back to the buildd:

devel/ocamldsort_0.14.1-1: Uploaded by buildd-vore [optional:out-of-date]
  Previous state was Building until 2003 Aug 31 19:33:27

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Re: [debian-sparc] Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-17 Thread Erwann Abalea
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Kent West wrote:

> Ben Collins wrote:
>
> >Hanging with Stop-A is only because sparc64-linux doesn't relinquish the
> >USB keyboard back to the PROM correctly. I think I remember Dave saying
> >this was a problem that wouldn't be fixed anytime soon, if at all.
> >
> Okay; thanks for the info. I reckon I'll havta put a piece of tape over
> the STOP button or something  ;-) (Actually, this seems like a pretty
> major thing, but I'm not a developer, so can't complain.)

What about unplugging and replugging the keyboard? Is it still equivalent
to a Stop-A? Even with USB keyboards?

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Re: [DebToo-Devel] Some benchmarks from using apt-fu + modified pentium-builder

2003-10-17 Thread Dave Love
Heitzso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Problem is current libssl package doesn't build in sparc32
> environment.  There's a bug in the package build setup.

Why do you need to build it rather than just installing the package
from unstable?

You do need either to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or to link /usr/lib/v8 to
/usr/lib/muldiv.  I've posted about this before and made a bug report
if I remember correctly, but I don't know whether the fault is with
libssl or libc.  (libc isn't multilibbed.)



Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-17 Thread Kent West

Alvaro Figueroa wrote:


On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 12:55, Kent West wrote:

 

If at kdm's login screen, I press Ctrl-Alt-F8 to go to the second X 
session, things are fine IF there's a second X session on -F8; if not, 
the machine hangs.
If from a VT (say, Alt-F2), I press Alt-F8 to go to the second X 
session, things are fine IF there's a second X session on -F8; if not, 
the machine hangs.
   



Yeap. I've seen similar stuff on Splack, Gentoo and Sid while using two
X clients.



Except that if I actually have two clients running, there doesn't seem 
to be a problem; it's only when I go through the motions of switching to 
a second X session when there's not one that the machine hangs.


It wouldn't be so bad if I could ssh in and kill offending processes, 
but the CPUs are located in another room (VGA & USB extension cables 
through the wall), and there's only two or three people with access to 
that room (it's a server room), so when they lock up, the students using 
the machines are locked out of the machine until one of us key-bearers 
goes into the server room and cycles the power on the box. Quite 
inconvenient.


Thanks for the info!

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Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-17 Thread Kent West

Patrick Morris wrote:

This is pretty standard behavior for Sun hardware.  They're *supposed* 
to drop to the "OK" prompt when you hit Stop-A.



Patrick Morris wrote:

Note to self: Next time read *entire* sentence before inserting foot.  
Didn't catch the part about it hanging at the OK prompt.


I wasn't here -- you never saw me.




I was going to reply to some message . . . but now I can't remember who 
I was going to reply to. Come to think of it, I don't think I saw anyone 
here. Hmm, must've been my imagination.


Doh!  :-)

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Re: Sunblade 2000 hangs hard, related to X

2003-10-17 Thread Kent West

Ben Collins wrote:

If from anywhere, I press Stop-A, the machine hangs. If' I'm at a VT, I 
see the message "Type 'go' to resume   ok", but "go" doesn't do 
anything; the machine's totally hung. This happens even if I shut down 
kdm first.
   



Hanging with Stop-A is only because sparc64-linux doesn't relinquish the
USB keyboard back to the PROM correctly. I think I remember Dave saying
this was a problem that wouldn't be fixed anytime soon, if at all.

 

Okay; thanks for the info. I reckon I'll havta put a piece of tape over 
the STOP button or something  ;-) (Actually, this seems like a pretty 
major thing, but I'm not a developer, so can't complain.)



The Alt+F8 thing seems weird.

 

I've tried changinr video depths from 24 to 16 (same behaviour), and 
tried changing the video driver from ati to fbdev (which locks the 
machine when X starts).


Bummer; I had a whole university-level Computer Science department of 
kids just waiting to be impressed with Debian over Solaris. Yikes!


Thanks for the response! I appreciate it!

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