Re: Seagate Barracuda drives for SparcStation20

2004-04-11 Thread Mark Stanislav

kegwasher wrote:


Blars Blarson wrote:

 


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Barracuda drives, each 9G in size. The model number is ST19171WC.
 


I should chime in I have Seagate Barracuda 2.1g drives for my Ultra1e,
they are annoyingly loud! I would look into some IBM drives if you can.

Of course if your not in the same room with your machines, you should be
OK.

-Mark


If you can get one to fit in your sparc 20, it should work fine.  I've
had mixed experince with seagate drives, (some had high infant
mortality) and none with that model.  You may be able to use it in the
upper slot with the cover off.

Cases designed for sca drives are wide, so you would need an adapter
cable.  You could use a case designed for narrow with a sca-50pin
adapter, but they sometimes fall off and you need a little extra room
in the case.

Since www.surpluscomputers.com has 9 gig sca 1" high drives for $10, I
think that would be the cheapest and easiest solution.  (Disclaimer:
While I'm a reasonably satisified customer, I've never mail ordered
from them.)

   



I have mail ordered from surpluscomputers.com and been very pleased.  I have
ordered direct and bought from them via ebay (that is how I found them). 
Very helpfull staff when something gets confused.  I suppose I should not

say that.  someone else might actually be interested in the old sun
hardware they sometimes have.

disclaimer:  I do not work for or know any one who does...


 





Re: ultra 10 started booting read only? corruption? rebuild?

2004-04-11 Thread Martin Marques
El Jue 08 Abr 2004 02:59, Patrick Finnegan escribió:
> Justin A declared on Thursday 08 April 2004 12:02 am:
> > On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 00:40, asera fini wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > My ultra 10 started booting read only,
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/debian-sparc-200403/msg00297
> >.html
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > --
> > -Justin
>
> And my fix...
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/debian-sparc-200403/msg00323.html

Sorry, just had this problem on friday and just saw this message. Why is this 
happening? Any bug report submitted?

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Re: help with getting sarge cds to boot

2004-04-11 Thread Jim Watson
sorry i dont know if this is right or wrong, it is just information.

my silo.conf has lines like
image=1/vmlinuz

there are no subdirectories in /boot 

sun4u sunblade100
2.4.24

jim
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 06:54:05PM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
> 
> This is the silo.conf we are using right now in the cds:
> 
> partition=1
> timeout=600
> read-only
> message=/boot/debian.txt
> default=linux
> append="cdrom devfs=mount"
> initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
> root=/dev/rd/0
> 
> # Standard boot images
> image[sun4c,sun4d,sun4m]=/boot/sparc32
>label=linux
> image[sun4u]=/boot/sparc64
>label=linux
> 
> Can anybody see anything wrong here?



Re: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 02:38:57PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:28:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. I've seen a lot
> > of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
> > remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part of beta 4 of
> > the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not including sparc
> > CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about this, you need
> > to get busy and fix it.
> 
> BTW, the installer is broken. It seems to expect the need to load cd
> modules in order to detect a CD. However, the cd is already detected and
> recognized by the kernel.
> 
> Why is that?

My mistake, the initrd doesn't contain the ide-cd module. That needs to
be fixed. It used to be there. Someone must have removed that.

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Re: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:28:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. I've seen a lot
> of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
> remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part of beta 4 of
> the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not including sparc
> CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about this, you need
> to get busy and fix it.

BTW, the installer is broken. It seems to expect the need to load cd
modules in order to detect a CD. However, the cd is already detected and
recognized by the kernel.

Why is that?

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Re: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:28:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. I've seen a lot
> of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
> remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part of beta 4 of
> the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not including sparc
> CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about this, you need
> to get busy and fix it.

Here's the silo.conf that worked for me. Please place it in your
debian-installer repo so it will be used next time the build is done.

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partition=1
timeout=600
message=/boot/debian.txt
default=linux
append="cdrom devfs=mount rw"
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
root=/dev/rd/0

# Standard boot images
image[sun4c,sun4d,sun4m]=/boot/sparc32
   label=linux
image[sun4u]=/boot/sparc64
   label=linux

# Rescue boots
image[sun4c,sun4d,sun4m]=/boot/sparc32
  label=rescue
  append="init=/bin/sh"
image[sun4u]=/boot/sparc64
  label=rescue
  append="init=/bin/sh"


RE: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Alex Bartok
Hi,
can you please CC the necessary changes to the list at well ?
I'm downloading today's image right now, so I can make appropriate changes
here and then give it a try right away.
I just tried Herbert Kaminski's `workaround`
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243122) - without
any luck, adding 'rw' to the kernel options doesn't work with an image 2-3
weeks old. (If it happens to work with 
the current image, I'll let you know.)

-Alex

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Ben Collins
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:40 PM
> To: Joey Hess
> Cc: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?
> 
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:28:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. 
> I've seen a lot
> > of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
> > remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part 
> of beta 4 of
> > the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not 
> including sparc
> > CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about 
> this, you need
> > to get busy and fix it.
> 
> I already had this working at one time, so some one else 
> broke it. Jeff
> Bailey and I worked on it for quite awhile.
> 
> So what happened? People break things without knowing, or just don't
> care to test changes?
> 
> How about just adding "rw" to the appended options?
> 
> Also, isofs.b doesn't need to be on the CD (as I've said before).
> 
> And finally, I am getting sick of your attitude towards ports and
> developers. It's the main reason I wont work on the debian-installer.
> 
> I'm pulling the cd image now, and I will try the fix. If that works,
> I'll tell you and you can make the change in your 
> debian-installer repo.
> 
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help with getting sarge cds to boot

2004-04-11 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hi!

We need a little help with getting sarge cds to boot on sparc, we are
receiving reports like this one:

http://bugs.debian.org/243122

but the thing is that we seem to be using the right parameters on the cds,
at least acording to this bugreports.

This is the silo.conf we are using right now in the cds:

partition=1
timeout=600
read-only
message=/boot/debian.txt
default=linux
append="cdrom devfs=mount"
initrd=/boot/initrd.gz
root=/dev/rd/0

# Standard boot images
image[sun4c,sun4d,sun4m]=/boot/sparc32
   label=linux
image[sun4u]=/boot/sparc64
   label=linux

# Rescue boots
image[sun4c,sun4d,sun4m]=/boot/sparc32
  label=rescue
  append="init=/bin/sh"
image[sun4u]=/boot/sparc64
  label=rescue
  append="init=/bin/sh"

Can anybody see anything wrong here?

Any sugestion will be welcome.

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Re: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 12:28:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. I've seen a lot
> of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
> remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part of beta 4 of
> the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not including sparc
> CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about this, you need
> to get busy and fix it.

I already had this working at one time, so some one else broke it. Jeff
Bailey and I worked on it for quite awhile.

So what happened? People break things without knowing, or just don't
care to test changes?

How about just adding "rw" to the appended options?

Also, isofs.b doesn't need to be on the CD (as I've said before).

And finally, I am getting sick of your attitude towards ports and
developers. It's the main reason I wont work on the debian-installer.

I'm pulling the cd image now, and I will try the fix. If that works,
I'll tell you and you can make the change in your debian-installer repo.

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RE: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Alex Bartok
I'm willing to help with the testing - I have an Ultra60 here where I can
test installers.
However I'm new to the Silo/Sparc world. (familiar quite well with Debian on
i386 though.)

...
If that helps.

best regards,
Alex Bartok

> -Original Message-
> From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:29 PM
> To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?
> 
> Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. I've 
> seen a lot
> of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
> remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part 
> of beta 4 of
> the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not including sparc
> CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about 
> this, you need
> to get busy and fix it.
> 
> (I am not subscribed to this mailing list.)
> 
> -- 
> see shy jo
> 



Re: Seagate Barracuda drives for SparcStation20

2004-04-11 Thread kegwasher
Blars Blarson wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>>Barracuda drives, each 9G in size. The model number is ST19171WC.
> 
> If you can get one to fit in your sparc 20, it should work fine.  I've
> had mixed experince with seagate drives, (some had high infant
> mortality) and none with that model.  You may be able to use it in the
> upper slot with the cover off.
> 
> Cases designed for sca drives are wide, so you would need an adapter
> cable.  You could use a case designed for narrow with a sca-50pin
> adapter, but they sometimes fall off and you need a little extra room
> in the case.
> 
> Since www.surpluscomputers.com has 9 gig sca 1" high drives for $10, I
> think that would be the cheapest and easiest solution.  (Disclaimer:
> While I'm a reasonably satisified customer, I've never mail ordered
> from them.)
> 

I have mail ordered from surpluscomputers.com and been very pleased.  I have
ordered direct and bought from them via ebay (that is how I found them). 
Very helpfull staff when something gets confused.  I suppose I should not
say that.  someone else might actually be interested in the old sun
hardware they sometimes have.

disclaimer:  I do not work for or know any one who does...



does anyone care about sparc CDs for sarge?

2004-04-11 Thread Joey Hess
Sparc CDs for sarge currently do not boot. Bug #243122. I've seen a lot
of workarounds, and zero effort to fix the problem. If this problem
remains in 2 weeks, then we will not ship sparc CDs as part of beta 4 of
the Debian installer. Which puts us quite close to not including sparc
CDs as part of the sarge release. If someone cares about this, you need
to get busy and fix it.

(I am not subscribed to this mailing list.)

-- 
see shy jo


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