Re: sparc machines at debcamp

2005-04-18 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Mon, 2005-04-18 02:08:36 +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 We are looking to get some sparc machines sponsored for the debcamp for 
 various
 development tasks. In order to have an idea which architectures people want
 to work on, we look for some projects or things people would be working on
 involving sparc. If you have a request for a certain subarch or have some
 idea involving sparc, please mail me. I will coordinate with Andreas as to 
 what
 we can actually get hold of.

I haven't switched on my sparc32 machines for quite some time, but I
remember there were some TODOs:

- Redo SILOs memory management to be able to load larger kernel
  binaries
- Check if current testing/unstable works w/o h/w mul/div
- Get 2.6.x to run SMP

MfG, JBG

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Fwd: Weird Mouse Behaviour with 2.6

2005-04-18 Thread Francois Lucas
OOop, sorry Tomas for the private message :-)

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From: Francois Lucas
Date: Apr 18, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Weird Mouse Behaviour with 2.6
To: Tomas Cernaj


On 4/3/05, Tomas Cernaj  wrote:

 Same problem here with my Ultra 5 and kernel 2.6.11.6: The mouse only
 works after I reconnect it

Same problem here too with my quad 450Mhz Ultra80. I need to unplung
and plug back the mouse to make it work under X with debian sid 2.6
kernel (2.6.8 I think). Dmesg ouput says that the kernel sees the
keyboard and the mouse.

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Re: Framebuffer console not restored correctly after X server abort

2005-04-18 Thread David S. Miller
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:54:43 +0200
Francois Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The config is an quad Ultra 80 running sid with debian 2.6 SMP kernel
 and a creator3D.

Unfortunately, if the sunffb closedown function isn't called the
color key in the framebuffer pixels is not restored to what the
kernel was using resulting in the behavior you see.

This should only really happen if the Xserver takes an unrecoverrable
fault from which it cannot call the sunffb shutdown routines.

You'll need to debug the Xserver sources to try and fix this.


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Sun hardware questions...

2005-04-18 Thread Zak Close
Hello all,
SunPCi PC co-processor card, in an Ultra 5 ?
I don't know where to begin, and i don't even have one, but the idea
sounds good :-)
Is there some info docs anyhere on what and how this card can be put to 
work ? is it just for solaris, or can it be talked to/booted from the PROM?

Also, i understand an ultra 5 has a PCi bus, does this mean one could 
plug-in a usb card (and get it to work with linux), amongst other things.

tia,
Zak.

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Re: Sun hardware questions...

2005-04-18 Thread David S. Miller
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:04:30 +
Zak Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is it just for solaris, or can it be talked to/booted from the PROM?

It is just for Solaris.  The card is driven by the Solaris kernel.
Userland tools communicate with the kernel driver for the PCi card
to load up it's RAM with a sub-OS to run, provide a disk image from
which to boot, things like that.

The PCi card provides virtual dummy devices for the x86 processor
environment running on that card.  So there is a pseudo VGA device
et al., just the most simplest things necessary to boot up a real
system and run applications, nothing more.

Since this has become a non-Sparc/Linux discussion, please take it
to the appropriate forum.


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Re: sparc machines at debcamp

2005-04-18 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-18 02:08:36 +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We are looking to get some sparc machines sponsored for the debcamp for various
development tasks. In order to have an idea which architectures people want
to work on, we look for some projects or things people would be working on
involving sparc. If you have a request for a certain subarch or have some
idea involving sparc, please mail me. I will coordinate with Andreas as to what
we can actually get hold of.
I haven't switched on my sparc32 machines for quite some time, but I
remember there were some TODOs:
- Redo SILOs memory management to be able to load larger kernel
  binaries
I do not know the status of that, but SILO definitely has its share of 
problems other than inability to load large kernels. It fails to boot the 
kernel on same machines, a representative bug is 261824 (boot failure on 
SunFire 280R). Andres Salomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has made some debugging on it 
recently (see the bug trail), but no solution was proposed so far.

	- Check if current testing/unstable works w/o h/w mul/div
You probably have in mind the restoration of the sun4c support. Currently 
glibc and some other libraries are built with v8 optimization, which uses
hardware mul/div, not available on sun4c. If you will manage to get a 
sun4c machine for debcamp (such as Sparc IPX), someone can give a shot at 
building the essential libraries without this optimization and trying to 
boot it. I have built glibc and even a netboot image for it, but so far 
nobody managed to netboot a sun4c machine using it. More information:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/01/msg00152.html
http://www.wooyd.org/debian/sun4c/
	- Get 2.6.x to run SMP
Ugh, AFAIK this is a tough one. Whoever is going to fiddle with that, 
might be interested in looking at this thread, where at least partial 
success was reported:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11082812801r=1w=2
Other important sparc topics:
* Kernel bug resulting in Remapping the kernel... FP Disabled, 
message, followed by returning to the PROM prompt. It seems like it 
can happen on variety of Ultra machines, most often - when booting the 
2.4.x kernel from CD-ROM. If someone manages to reproduce it during 
debcamp, _any_ debugging information on it is welcome.

* Failure of the current 2.6 netboot images to boot on sparc32. It can be 
a kernel bug or a SILO bug, or some combination thereof. During the boot 
the initrd image cannot be mounted and boot fails. Should be reproducible 
with any sparc32 hardware.

Best regards,
Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Sun hardware questions...

2005-04-18 Thread Martin
 SunPCi PC co-processor card, in an Ultra 5 ?
 
 I don't know where to begin, and i don't even have one, but the idea
 sounds good :-)
 
 Is there some info docs anyhere on what and how this card can be put to 
 work ? is it just for solaris, or can it be talked to/booted from the PROM?
http://www.vdberg.org/~richard/Linux-on-SunPCi-mini-Howto/
might answer some questions.  In short it's a separte machine and you
need the Sun utility to kick it into life / do some things.  Not sure if
the app will run in the Solaris emulation mode that Linux/SPARC has, I'd
guess not as it probably requires some sort of kernel support.

 Also, i understand an ultra 5 has a PCi bus, does this mean one could 
 plug-in a usb card (and get it to work with linux), amongst other things.
Yes.  I have a printer running off this set up at the moment.

Cheers,
 - Martin
 
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