Re: Keyboard and mouse unworkable in GDM on Sarge

2005-06-07 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 20:26 +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
 On Monday 06 June 2005 20:04, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
  Still, my mouse doesn't work at all.
 
 That's another known issue that can be worked around by unplugging the 
 mouse after a cold boot [1] and which will be resolved in future kernels 
 [2].
Thanks again.

The right section in XF86Config-4 on my Ultra 10 with kernel 2.6.8 on
Sarge is then:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Sun Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   false
EndSection

And of course, I need to unplug and plug back my mouse before I can get
it to work.
This one is not in the release notes, though.

 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/03/msg00139.html
 [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/04/msg00203.html



Re: Keyboard and mouse unworkable in GDM on Sarge

2005-06-07 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le mardi 07 juin 2005 à 10:33 +0200, Jérôme Warnier a écrit :
 Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 20:26 +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
  On Monday 06 June 2005 20:04, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
   Still, my mouse doesn't work at all.
  
  That's another known issue that can be worked around by unplugging the 
  mouse after a cold boot [1] and which will be resolved in future kernels 
  [2].
 Thanks again.
 
 The right section in XF86Config-4 on my Ultra 10 with kernel 2.6.8 on
 Sarge is then:
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Sun Mouse
   Driver  mouse
   Option  CorePointer
   Option  Device/dev/input/mice
   Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
   Option  Emulate3Buttons   false
 EndSection
 
 And of course, I need to unplug and plug back my mouse before I can get
 it to work.
 This one is not in the release notes, though.

Some more info:
I upgraded from OBP 3.19.4 to 3.31.0 and my mouse works even after a
cold boot.

  [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/03/msg00139.html
  [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/04/msg00203.html



Re: Mac mini

2005-06-07 Thread Olle Görling

Hej!

Kanske lite off topic, men här har du mina erfarenheter av Apples
produkter:
 - Hastighet:
   Inte den snabbaste hästen i stallet, men helt ok. Har bara
   testat med MacOS X, vilket fungerar helt okej på den. Kör
   du någon linux utan en massa fluff får du säkert ännu bättre
   prestanda.
 - MacOS X:
   Tar lite tid att vänja sig vid, men är helt klart användbart,
   i min mening är det en betydligt mer mogen skrivbordsprodukt
   än KDE eller Gnome på Linux/BSD/WhateverOS. Gillar man att
   sitta i skalet, finns naturligtvis Terminalen att tillgå, med
   bash eller vad man nu föredrar att använda. Sen finns ju
   självklart en uppsjö med trevliga grafiska applikationer,
   Safari, Mail, Photoshop osv osv. I och med att OSet bygger på
   en Mach microkernel med en Posix-kompatibel api, så bygger de
   flesta program snyggt på den (iaf de jag har testat med).
 - Firewire/USB:
   Har inte testat på en Mini, har dock testat med båda typerna
   på min Powerbook (som har motsvarande hårdvara), och det har
   fungerat bra, inga märkbara prestandaförluster, och nu när MiniMate
   finns, så kan man ju dessutom få skrivbordet att se sött ut med
   en eller ett par extra diskar ;)

I det stora hela är det inget fel på MacMinin, men det beror ju lite
på vad man letar efter, vill man t ex ha mic-ingång, så är kanske inte
Minin det bästa alternativet (eftersom den inte har någon ;), såvida
man inte kan tänka sig ett USB-ljudkort eller liknande. Hur som helst,
kan man tänka sig köpa en Mac, gör det. Det är inte värre än att köpa
en Dell, HP eller nåt annat bös som nån stor leverantör slängt ihop
(möjligtvis med undantag för att Apples produkter - enligt mig - ser
bra ut, har bra precision och är behagliga att arbeta med)

// Olle Görling
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2005-06-07 kl. 10.43 skrev Mikael Hedin:

Hej! Funderar (som vanligt) på hur min dator kan bli tystare och 
mindre.


Har någon erfarenhet av Mac mini? Någon bra webbplats, hur fungerar 
hårdvaran,

hur är prestandan (subjektiv upplevelse), etc?

Hur fungerar det med en extern firewire-disk? Blir den långsam? 
USB2-disk?


Har man någon användning av MacOS som sitter i?

TIA,

Micce, som längtar efter att slänga ut dammsugaren under skrivbordet.

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Re: Mac mini

2005-06-07 Thread Olle Görling
Oops, sorry about that, tab-completion of mail-addresses is probably 
not suited for morons :(


// Olle Görling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-06-07 kl. 13.29 skrev Olle Görling:


Hej!

Kanske lite off topic, men här har du mina erfarenheter av Apples
produkter:
 - Hastighet:
   Inte den snabbaste hästen i stallet, men helt ok. Har bara
   testat med MacOS X, vilket fungerar helt okej på den. Kör
   du någon linux utan en massa fluff får du säkert ännu bättre
   prestanda.
 - MacOS X:
   Tar lite tid att vänja sig vid, men är helt klart användbart,
   i min mening är det en betydligt mer mogen skrivbordsprodukt
   än KDE eller Gnome på Linux/BSD/WhateverOS. Gillar man att
   sitta i skalet, finns naturligtvis Terminalen att tillgå, med
   bash eller vad man nu föredrar att använda. Sen finns ju
   självklart en uppsjö med trevliga grafiska applikationer,
   Safari, Mail, Photoshop osv osv. I och med att OSet bygger på
   en Mach microkernel med en Posix-kompatibel api, så bygger de
   flesta program snyggt på den (iaf de jag har testat med).
 - Firewire/USB:
   Har inte testat på en Mini, har dock testat med båda typerna
   på min Powerbook (som har motsvarande hårdvara), och det har
   fungerat bra, inga märkbara prestandaförluster, och nu när MiniMate
   finns, så kan man ju dessutom få skrivbordet att se sött ut med
   en eller ett par extra diskar ;)

I det stora hela är det inget fel på MacMinin, men det beror ju lite
på vad man letar efter, vill man t ex ha mic-ingång, så är kanske inte
Minin det bästa alternativet (eftersom den inte har någon ;), såvida
man inte kan tänka sig ett USB-ljudkort eller liknande. Hur som helst,
kan man tänka sig köpa en Mac, gör det. Det är inte värre än att köpa
en Dell, HP eller nåt annat bös som nån stor leverantör slängt ihop
(möjligtvis med undantag för att Apples produkter - enligt mig - ser
bra ut, har bra precision och är behagliga att arbeta med)

// Olle Görling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-06-07 kl. 10.43 skrev Mikael Hedin:

Hej! Funderar (som vanligt) på hur min dator kan bli tystare och 
mindre.


Har någon erfarenhet av Mac mini? Någon bra webbplats, hur fungerar 
hårdvaran,

hur är prestandan (subjektiv upplevelse), etc?

Hur fungerar det med en extern firewire-disk? Blir den långsam? 
USB2-disk?


Har man någon användning av MacOS som sitter i?

TIA,

Micce, som längtar efter att slänga ut dammsugaren under skrivbordet.

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question about kernel

2005-06-07 Thread gaspo
i have a debian 
[14:00:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gaspo]$ uname -a
Linux sparc64 2.4.18 #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:17 EDT 2002 sparc64
unknownwith kernel 2.4.18 basic...
i want to upgrade with another new kernel...
what is the best way for uypgrade kernel?
i can download witrh apt-cache search kernel NEw and dpkg -i KERNEL.deb...
work?



Re: new to SPARC and Debian-sparc

2005-06-07 Thread David Johnson
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 13:00, John WHITE wrote:
 Afternoon all,
 Can I preface this post by saying I am new to sparc and have only dabbled
 in installing Debian (although I have been building PC's for 9yrs and
 using flavours of linux for 7 yrs). I installed Solaris 10 on my Ultra5 and
 then though it fun to install Debian - which went fine -no problems there.
 Linux seemed to run faster but of course the current stable version is
 fairly 'old'. What is he current availability of newer or unstable packages
 - is there quite a comprehensive selection? Can I (or how do I/do I have
 to) compile packages for sparc (I have done this for i386)? Any other
 gotchas??
 Pl remember I am new to Debian/SPARC and


A new version of Debian was released yesterday which is MUCH more up-to-date. 
You should be able to upgrade to it simply by running 'apt-get update  
apt-get dist-upgrade'.

You can compile stuff on SPARC just like you can on x86, but you probably 
won't need to - most of the software you'll ever need is available within 
Debian.

Regards,
David.

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Re: new to SPARC and Debian-sparc

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Waldner

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:25:36 BST, David Johnson writes:
A new version of Debian was released yesterday which is MUCH more up-to-date. 
You should be able to upgrade to it simply by running 'apt-get update  
apt-get dist-upgrade'.

Please read the release notes before you attempt that.
http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/sparc/release-notes/

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Re: new to SPARC and Debian-sparc

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Wolfe {MCP}
On Tue,  7 Jun 2005 14:00:47 +0200 (CEST)
John WHITE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Afternoon all,
 Can I preface this post by saying I am new to sparc and have only dabbled in 
 installing Debian (although I have been building PC's for 9yrs and using 
 flavours of linux for 7 yrs).
 I installed Solaris 10 on my Ultra5 and then though it fun to install Debian 
 - which went fine -no problems there. Linux seemed to run faster but of 
 course the current stable version is fairly 'old'. 
 What is he current availability of newer or unstable packages - is there 
 quite a comprehensive selection?
 Can I (or how do I/do I have to) compile packages for sparc (I have done this 
 for i386)?
 Any other gotchas??
 Pl remember I am new to Debian/SPARC and 
 
 John White
 Cheshire, UK

John, welcome to the Sparc Debian Family!  I run the latest Sparc port (Sarge) 
her on a Sun Ultra 5 desktop at home (I am actually replying to your original 
email posting on it right now G).

As long as you run apt-get upgrade and apt-get update on a fairly regular 
basis (run the program as root of course) the you should not have any problems 
with any of the latest updates.

Peace,
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Re: question about kernel

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Wolfe {MCP}
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:01:37 +0200
gaspo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have a debian 
 [14:00:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gaspo]$ uname -a
 Linux sparc64 2.4.18 #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:17 EDT 2002 sparc64
 unknownwith kernel 2.4.18 basic...
 i want to upgrade with another new kernel...
 what is the best way for uypgrade kernel?
 i can download witrh apt-cache search kernel NEw and dpkg -i KERNEL.deb...
 work?
 

You would most likely have to download the latest kernel from source code and 
then compile 
and install it yourself.


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Re: new to SPARC and Debian-sparc

2005-06-07 Thread David Johnson
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 17:07, you wrote:

 Hi, tried this but was getting 404 errors when trying to connect to
 http://security.debian.org for some reason.  Has anyone else gotten this
 error at all either today or recently?

Works for me. Ensure the following line is correct in 
your /etc/apt/sources.list file:

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main

Regards,
David.

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Re: question about kernel

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Crilly
On 06/07/05 02:01:37PM +0200, gaspo wrote:
 i have a debian 
 [14:00:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gaspo]$ uname -a
 Linux sparc64 2.4.18 #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:17 EDT 2002 sparc64
 unknownwith kernel 2.4.18 basic...
 i want to upgrade with another new kernel...
 what is the best way for uypgrade kernel?
 i can download witrh apt-cache search kernel NEw and dpkg -i KERNEL.deb...
 work?

You can use apt-cache search kernel-image to get a list of the available
kernels then just 'apt-get install kernel-image-version' to install it.
Then depending on how you have your bootloader setup you might have to
update /etc/silo.conf.

Jim.


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PROBLEM INSTALL SUNFIRE V250

2005-06-07 Thread johnny gomez
Hi, i'm trying to install a server sunfire v250 with a
sarge stable distribution but i can't install, the
system show this error:

Fatal Error Reset
CPU ...0001 AFSR 0210.8000.. JETO
PRIV OM
AFAR .07ff.ffc0.41a0.

thanks.

P.D.: i'm bad writing in english :D. sorry for that.



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Re: question about kernel

2005-06-07 Thread gaspo
but when i try
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u

Setting up kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u (26) ...
after some SEcond i have the message:
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6table_filter.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6table_mangle.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipx/ipx.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/netlink/netlink_dev.o
There was a problem running depmod.  This may be benign,
(You may have versioned symbol names, for instance).
Or this could be an error. In any case, since depmod is
run at install time, we could just defer running depmod
Would you like to abort now? [Yes] Yes
dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
2005/6/7, Jim Crilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 06/07/05 02:01:37PM +0200, gaspo wrote:
  i have a debian
  [14:00:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gaspo]$ uname -a
  Linux sparc64 2.4.18 #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:17 EDT 2002 sparc64
  unknownwith kernel 2.4.18 basic...
  i want to upgrade with another new kernel...
  what is the best way for uypgrade kernel?
  i can download witrh apt-cache search kernel NEw and dpkg -i KERNEL.deb...
  work?
 
 You can use apt-cache search kernel-image to get a list of the available
 kernels then just 'apt-get install kernel-image-version' to install it.
 Then depending on how you have your bootloader setup you might have to
 update /etc/silo.conf.
 
 Jim.




Re: __alloc_pages: errors resolved? [wa Re: __alloc_pages: 2-order allocation failed]

2005-06-07 Thread David S. Miller
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:13:21 -0400
Mike Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've abandoned the Debian 2.4 kernels in favor of vanilla 2.4.30, and
 this problem has yet to crop up.
 
  11:03:06 up 9 days, 18:42, 13 users,  load average: 0.47, 0.17, 0.14
 
 Working on 10 days uptime, and no complaints.  The SMTP server has yet
 to stop responding, too.

This doesn't surprise me at all.

 Instead of ignoring the issue, can you please look into it?

I'm glad that you think you can allocate my time and my priorities
however you wish, but sadly this is not the case.

I currently have more pressing matters, as networking maintainer, and
simply have zero time to look into any sparc issues lately.

Sorry.


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Re: question about kernel

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Crilly
On 06/08/05 12:41:19AM +0200, gaspo wrote:
 but when i try
 apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u
 
 Setting up kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u (26) ...
 after some SEcond i have the message:
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6table_filter.o
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6table_mangle.o
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipx/ipx.o
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/netlink/netlink_dev.o
 There was a problem running depmod.  This may be benign,
 (You may have versioned symbol names, for instance).
 Or this could be an error. In any case, since depmod is
 run at install time, we could just defer running depmod
 Would you like to abort now? [Yes] Yes
 dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I haven't used a woody system in a while so I don't remember seeing that,
but I really doubt you need those particular modules and the rest of the
kernel should work just fine so don't abort the install. And as long as you
keep your current kernel installed, you'll be able to fall back to it if
2.4.19 does cause you problems.

 2005/6/7, Jim Crilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 06/07/05 02:01:37PM +0200, gaspo wrote:
   i have a debian
   [14:00:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gaspo]$ uname -a
   Linux sparc64 2.4.18 #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:17 EDT 2002 sparc64
   unknownwith kernel 2.4.18 basic...
   i want to upgrade with another new kernel...
   what is the best way for uypgrade kernel?
   i can download witrh apt-cache search kernel NEw and dpkg -i KERNEL.deb...
   work?
  
  You can use apt-cache search kernel-image to get a list of the available
  kernels then just 'apt-get install kernel-image-version' to install it.
  Then depending on how you have your bootloader setup you might have to
  update /etc/silo.conf.
  
  Jim.
 
 


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Re: question about kernel

2005-06-07 Thread gaspo
yes.. but i wanna upgrade kernel because the basic kernel have some
problem about ipv6...
dont create a lot of interface only sit0 sit1 and ip tunnel not work
for create other virtual inteface..

2005/6/8, Jim Crilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 06/08/05 12:41:19AM +0200, gaspo wrote:
  but when i try
  apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u
  
  Setting up kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u (26) ...
  after some SEcond i have the message:
  depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
  /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6table_filter.o
  depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
  /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6table_mangle.o
  depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipx/ipx.o
  depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
  /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/netlink/netlink_dev.o
  There was a problem running depmod.  This may be benign,
  (You may have versioned symbol names, for instance).
  Or this could be an error. In any case, since depmod is
  run at install time, we could just defer running depmod
  Would you like to abort now? [Yes] Yes
  dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u (--configure):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u
  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 
 I haven't used a woody system in a while so I don't remember seeing that,
 but I really doubt you need those particular modules and the rest of the
 kernel should work just fine so don't abort the install. And as long as you
 keep your current kernel installed, you'll be able to fall back to it if
 2.4.19 does cause you problems.
 
  2005/6/7, Jim Crilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On 06/07/05 02:01:37PM +0200, gaspo wrote:
i have a debian
[14:00:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gaspo]$ uname -a
Linux sparc64 2.4.18 #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:17 EDT 2002 sparc64
unknownwith kernel 2.4.18 basic...
i want to upgrade with another new kernel...
what is the best way for uypgrade kernel?
i can download witrh apt-cache search kernel NEw and dpkg -i 
KERNEL.deb...
work?
  
   You can use apt-cache search kernel-image to get a list of the available
   kernels then just 'apt-get install kernel-image-version' to install it.
   Then depending on how you have your bootloader setup you might have to
   update /etc/silo.conf.
  
   Jim.
  
 
 
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Re: PROBLEM INSTALL SUNFIRE V250

2005-06-07 Thread Jurij Smakov

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, johnny gomez wrote:


Hi, i'm trying to install a server sunfire v250 with a
sarge stable distribution but i can't install, the
system show this error:

Fatal Error Reset
CPU ...0001 AFSR 0210.8000.. JETO
PRIV OM
AFAR .07ff.ffc0.41a0.

thanks.

P.D.: i'm bad writing in english :D. sorry for that.


Hi,

I hope you are trying to boot from cdrom, because the problem with 
Sunfires failing during CD-ROM boot is well-known, and there is no 
solution yet (check out the bug 261824). The workaround for the time being 
is to use netbooting to start the install. You can find the images at [0]

and detailed instructions on setting up netbooting at [1].

[0] http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/04/msg00651.html

Best regards,

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