Re: Have an enterprise 4000 if someone wants it
--MR == Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MR I will give you the postal fees back! Really. when i said available i meant a root account and a person operating the console as instructed, sorry. it's a company machine, and not for sale, but is only used for testing and is mostly idle. d -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have an enterprise 4000 if someone wants it
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, David Arnold wrote: when i said available i meant a root account and a person operating the console as instructed, sorry. it's a company machine, and not for sale, but is only used for testing and is mostly idle. Does it run Debian? A while ago bug 299074 was filed against discover1, stating that discover1 fails to find all devices on machines with multiple sbus buses. I made a patch for this problem, which has been incorporated into discover1 version 1.7.9, now available in sid. However, to the best of my knowledge, that patch has never got tested, since such machines are somewhat rare. As E3000 appears to have two sbus buses, it would be great if you could test it out. Best regards, Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key: http://www.wooyd.org/pgpkey/ KeyID: C99E03CC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian on Sparc 4
Hi Jurij, Indeed, it does appear that I was tricked :) I edited the sources.list changed stable to woody and it seems that I may be on track to at least get this box up and running properly. Thanks a lot! I think the SPARC 4 is a sun4m architecture although I am no guru on SUN architecture at all. I don't know the differences between c and m but I think the sun4c is the SPARC 1 and 2. I shall have to take a closer look at this although looking at the SUN site I am sure it is sun4m. I shall see if sarge supports it. Perhaps the sun4m can use a = 2.4.21 kernel and then be upgraded to sarge. Thanks again for your help, Steve -Original Message- From: Jurij Smakov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2005 02:06 To: Steve Lewis Cc: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian on Sparc 4 On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Steve Lewis wrote: The kernel which came with the woody floppies is 2.2.20-sun4cdm. To use apt-get and security updates requires libc6 and libc6 requires a kernel later than 2.4.21. I cannot seem to find a way of installing a kernel = 2.4.21 without installing additional packages which have dependencies on libc6. You are probably tricked by the fact that woody is no longer 'stable'. Sarge is the new 'stable' release, so whenever you put 'stable' into your sources.list, it tries to pull in the Sarge's files, which is not desired. Instead use 'woody' or 'oldstable' in your sources.list and you should be fine. I have looked at going to Sarge but I cannot seem to locate any of the usual installation floppy .bin images, rescue, root and driver. I believe that your machine is of sun4c subarchitecture, which is not officially supported by Sarge. Have a look at the page http://wiki.debian.net/?SparcSun4c which might help with the installation. Best regards, Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key: http://www.wooyd.org/pgpkey/ KeyID: C99E03CC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge netboot CD won't start on Enterprise 250
Jurij Smakov wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Ron Murray wrote: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188 Unimplemented SPARC system call 188 Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd Using /lib/modules/2.4.27-sparc64/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o Bus error modprobe: failed to load module usb-uhci Bus error Bus error(continues till we quit) Since it appears that modprobing of USB modules is causing problems, try disabling the USB probing on boot by typing at the boot prompt: linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false Hopefully it will help. Yep, that did it. Thanks! Unfortunately, this is not unexpected. The rescue mode has been broken as long as I remember. Doesn't matter so much. I can always use one of the virtual consoles in install mode. Thanks, .Ron ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at postmaster at dor.state.ma.us. ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have an enterprise 4000 if someone wants it
when i said available i meant a root account and a person operating the console as instructed, sorry. it's a company machine, and not for sale, but is only used for testing and is mostly idle. Does it run Debian? My E4000 does. Rather nicely in fact :-D 2.4 and 2.6 kernels seem to work, as well as vservers with some patching. A while ago bug 299074 was filed against discover1, stating that discover1 fails to find all devices on machines with multiple sbus buses. I made a patch for this problem, which has been incorporated into discover1 version 1.7.9, now available in sid. However, to the best of my knowledge, that patch has never got tested, since such machines are somewhat rare. As E3000 appears to have two sbus buses, it would be great if you could test it out. I can't find a quick description of how discover is supposed to work but 1.7.7 (sarge) runs on a multi-SBUS machine and detects the only device that has Linux drivers but which are not loaded, althought this is only given when --debug is enabled. HTH Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian on Sparc 4
I think the SPARC 4 is a sun4m architecture although I am no guru on SUN architecture at all. It is a sun4m machine. For hardware info for this generation of machine, this site: http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref1.html is good (IMHO). I don't know the differences between c and m but I think the sun4c is the SPARC 1 and 2. They are a different abstract architecture, more critically sun4m machines use SPARC v8 processors rather then SPARC v7 in sun4c machines (I can't think of an exception - although there might be one). This only matters as SPARC v8 has unsigned int multiply and divides (as well as atomic swap I believe) which has to be emulated on SPARC v7 machines. In short, for a few key apps (such as ssh, GPG and libc), having support for SPARC v7 processors slows down the code on faster machines, thus (and as sun4c machines are getting quite old) there is limited support for them in Debian 3.1. I shall have to take a closer look at this although looking at the SUN site I am sure it is sun4m. I shall see if sarge supports it. Perhaps the sun4m can use a = 2.4.21 kernel and then be upgraded to sarge. I believe sarge on sun4m is viable, not sure about the status of 2.6 kernels on sun4m machines, know there used to be at least some bugs on SMP, check the archives and http://sparclinux.mit.edu/sparc/ if you have problems with it. HTH Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help me
Hi i have test sun ultra5 and i find very well with debian sparcbut i use it for an important Server for my lan/wan/firewall/ecc... ipv6 tunnel broker ircD ecc.. I have a Stupid question...: haS Someone to give to me any kinD of sun ultra (for free)... only if U have alot of sparC and U dont make nothing with This server... I pay shipment to my country...contaCt me to my Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanna to use it how Test server and make experiment on debianpls Help me!
Re: help me
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 20:09 +0200, gaspo wrote: Hi i have test sun ultra5 and i find very well with debian sparcbut i use it for an important Server for my lan/wan/firewall/ecc... ipv6 tunnel broker ircD ecc.. I have a Stupid question...: haS Someone to give to me any kinD of sun ultra (for free)... only if U have alot of sparC and U dont make nothing with This server... I pay shipment to my country...contaCt me to my Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanna to use it how Test server and make experiment on debianpls Help me! A number of alternatives come to mind. If you are doing development work for Debian then if you become a debian developer, I believe you can get access to development machines including a couple of UltraSPARCs. Alternatively, you said you are interested in experimenting using Debian, why not use another architecture - it's virtually identical. Alternatively if it has to be a SPARC based machine you could move your main server over to another machine and use the one you already have (if it's a standard Debian set up then it should only be config files to move), use an emulator such as Qemu or a virtualisation technology like vservers. HTH Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian on Sparc 4 - woody to sarge
Thanks for the tip Martin, Looking at the page it seems I have the following, which is indeed sun4m: - SPARCstation 4 Processor(s): MicroSPARC II @ 70MHz Bus:SBus, 1 slot Architecture: sun4m Notes: Optional 16-bit audio, onboard framebuffer. All, I have since tried to upgrade my kernel to the kernel-image-2.4.27-2-sparc32_2.4.27-2_sparc.deb package but had a kernel panic, unable to mount root fs error on the reboot. I think this could be a silo.conf error. I did add the initrd line to silo.conf but I didn't include a root=/dev/sda1 line. I had a look around for a decent (full and complete) example of a silo.conf file but couldn't find one on the net. I was hoping that upgrading the kernel would allow me to move to the new stable 'sarge' release. Any good pointers? Once again though, getting my box back to a decent version of woody was not straight forward, I had to edit my source.list before completing the install as the floppy disks always point to stable, which of course is now 'sarge'. I tried getting the floppy rescue and driver files over the net thinking they may have been updated, but alas no. Cheers all, Steve -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 June 2005 21:14 To: Debian Sparc Subject: RE: Debian on Sparc 4 I think the SPARC 4 is a sun4m architecture although I am no guru on SUN architecture at all. It is a sun4m machine. For hardware info for this generation of machine, this site: http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref1.html is good (IMHO). I don't know the differences between c and m but I think the sun4c is the SPARC 1 and 2. They are a different abstract architecture, more critically sun4m machines use SPARC v8 processors rather then SPARC v7 in sun4c machines (I can't think of an exception - although there might be one). This only matters as SPARC v8 has unsigned int multiply and divides (as well as atomic swap I believe) which has to be emulated on SPARC v7 machines. In short, for a few key apps (such as ssh, GPG and libc), having support for SPARC v7 processors slows down the code on faster machines, thus (and as sun4c machines are getting quite old) there is limited support for them in Debian 3.1. I shall have to take a closer look at this although looking at the SUN site I am sure it is sun4m. I shall see if sarge supports it. Perhaps the sun4m can use a = 2.4.21 kernel and then be upgraded to sarge. I believe sarge on sun4m is viable, not sure about the status of 2.6 kernels on sun4m machines, know there used to be at least some bugs on SMP, check the archives and http://sparclinux.mit.edu/sparc/ if you have problems with it. HTH Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have an enterprise 4000 if someone wants it
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Martin wrote: I can't find a quick description of how discover is supposed to work but 1.7.7 (sarge) runs on a multi-SBUS machine and detects the only device that has Linux drivers but which are not loaded, althought this is only given when --debug is enabled. Sarge version will run just fine, but if you have a NIC on one sbus and SCSI card on another (which appears to be common), it will only scan the first sbus and detect the NIC and not SCSI controller. You can only test the patch if you have a setup like this. Bug report [0] contains the instructions on how it can be tested. [0] http://bugs.debian.org/299074 Best regards, Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key: http://www.wooyd.org/pgpkey/ KeyID: C99E03CC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian on Sparc 4 - woody to sarge
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Steve Lewis wrote: I have since tried to upgrade my kernel to the kernel-image-2.4.27-2-sparc32_2.4.27-2_sparc.deb package but had a kernel panic, unable to mount root fs error on the reboot. I think this could be a silo.conf error. I did add the initrd line to silo.conf but I didn't include a root=/dev/sda1 line. I had a look around for a decent (full and complete) example of a silo.conf file but couldn't find one on the net. The manual page accessible with 'man silo.conf' command contains extensive documentation. Here's my working silo.conf: root=/dev/hda2 partition=1 default=Linux read-only timeout=100 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux initrd=/initrd.img image=/vmlinuz.old label=LinuxOLD initrd=/initrd.img.old Note that in my configuration /boot is a separate partition (/dev/hda1), which is also default (set by partition=1), so paths to the files are given relative to that partition. So setting image=/vmlinuz when the default partition is 1 will actually try to load file vmlinuz from the root of partition 1, which translates to /boot/vmlinuz. Also, if your silo.conf is broken, you still should be able to boot by typing something like this at the boot prompt: linux image=1/boot/vmlinux-2.4.27-2-sparc32 initrd=1/boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32 root=/dev/sda1 If you are still having trouble, post your silo.conf and we should be able to figure it out. Best regards, Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key: http://www.wooyd.org/pgpkey/ KeyID: C99E03CC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help me
hello, seems that gaspo knows the s/debian/netbsd command in vim because he sent the same email to the port-sparc64 mailing-list ... I'd rather consider this request is not worth paying attention to it. I'm sorry if my answer looks too harsh but in such a case : what's the point in taking time to reply if the request isn't honest. I'm posting this mail to the ML to prevent further answers. (I hope I won't hurt anybody) But Martin, nevertheless your mail proves one thing again: debian people are definitely friendly. that's the good point. ;) As a conclusion I own an U5 which runs debian and netbsd ... it's indeed a nice machine ... gaspo: next time don't send your mail to both the debian and netbsd sparc MLs ... that's not serious ... Best regards, Aurélien Martin wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 20:09 +0200, gaspo wrote: Hi i have test sun ultra5 and i find very well with debian sparcbut i use it for an important Server for my lan/wan/firewall/ecc... ipv6 tunnel broker ircD ecc.. I have a Stupid question...: haS Someone to give to me any kinD of sun ultra (for free)... only if U have alot of sparC and U dont make nothing with This server... I pay shipment to my country...contaCt me to my Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanna to use it how Test server and make experiment on debianpls Help me! A number of alternatives come to mind. If you are doing development work for Debian then if you become a debian developer, I believe you can get access to development machines including a couple of UltraSPARCs. Alternatively, you said you are interested in experimenting using Debian, why not use another architecture - it's virtually identical. Alternatively if it has to be a SPARC based machine you could move your main server over to another machine and use the one you already have (if it's a standard Debian set up then it should only be config files to move), use an emulator such as Qemu or a virtualisation technology like vservers. HTH Cheers, - Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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