Re: Debian Woody running SMP on a SPARCserver 1000E (sun4d)

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Newport

Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:


Around a year ago I acquired a number of SPARCserver 1000E machines,
[snip]
I have not made similar progress with a scratch-compiled 2.4 kernel.
[snip]
 

I put rather a lot of work into this a while back and my patches are in 
2.4.30, there are still some outstanding issues :-


Serial console does not work - use a frame buffer and keyboard.
UP is stable but SMP still crashes, looks like an IRQ handling problem 
in SMP mode but ICBW.


I ran out of time and skills, so I have not done any more work, if you 
would like to pick up the ball and try running with it I will try to 
help you get started.


In general Sun4d is very similar to sun4m, if you look at the patches 
that have been applied for sun4m but not sun4d this will probably fix a 
few things.




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Re: Debian Woody running SMP on a SPARCserver 1000E (sun4d)

2005-07-20 Thread David S. Miller
From: Mark Morgan Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:50:42 +

> In arch/sparc/kernel/sun4d_smp.c there is a call to
> calibrate_delay(): this should be commented out. As far as I can
> tell (and I stress that I am neither a Sun guru nor a kernel hacker)
> it is only used for the secondary CPUs which default to the same
> speed as the primary one- and who in their right mind would try to
> run dissimilar CPUs SMP?

Due to cache effects, as you boot the other cpus into the kernel,
the calibrate_delay() calculation can change.  We really do need
to run this on every cpu, so this problem has to be fixed by
some method other than simply commenting out the call to calibrate_delay()


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Debian Woody running SMP on a SPARCserver 1000E (sun4d)

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
I'm afraid this is rather old news, but I plead that I've been waiting for Sarge
for the last year rather than reporting the situation with Woody which was
obsolescent. Also for various reasons my ML gateway has been inoperative and
this work is fairly low on my list of priorities.

Around a year ago I acquired a number of SPARCserver 1000E machines,
unfortunately they were very much a "mixed bag" and on inspection quite a few of
the boards had damaged SIMM latches and (I suspect) other problems. I was able
to assemble one system with a fairly full memory space and 8x CPUs, this booted
and ran RH6.2 reliably on a single CPU.

When I tried to install Woody on this machine I got the dreaded "Data Access
Exception", and on researching this determined that it was because the sun4d
kernel on the Woody CD was SMP. I worked around this by compiling a UP sun4d
kernel on a SS20 and booting over the LAN, at which point I was able to
bootstrap Woody on the SS1000E to the point where it could compile its own
kernels.

Looking at what other people had reported about this problem and using the LEDs
and PROM debugging messages I eventually determined that the DAE can be avoided
by making a one-line kernel change, at which point the SS1000E runs 8x CPU SMP
reliably. Specifically, I have had more than one machine with up to 8x
SuperSparc-50s running with firmware 2.23, however I've had problems with
another firmware version where it gave a watchdog timeout /before/ the "Booting
Linux" message: I think this is probably a different issue.

In arch/sparc/kernel/sun4d_smp.c there is a call to calibrate_delay(): this
should be commented out. As far as I can tell (and I stress that I am neither a
Sun guru nor a kernel hacker) it is only used for the secondary CPUs which
default to the same speed as the primary one- and who in their right mind would
try to run dissimilar CPUs SMP?

Furthermore, looking at the calibrate_delay() code I suspect that the way that
the global loops_per_jiffy variable is being used as a scratchpad is unsafe.
Specifically, if on a particular SMP architecture (here sun4d) interrupts are
not fully disabled while calibrate_delay() is running then anything which
inadvertently uses the value of loops_per_jiffy could get into trouble.

I have not made similar progress with a scratch-compiled 2.4 kernel. However I
admit freely that I do not have a good understanding of the Sun and SPARC
architectures, I do not have documentation for the standard chips and I lack the
magic document that describes the sun4d architecture. Without wanting to commit
myself to putting significant time into these machines if anybody could fill me
in with these documents I'd very much appreciate it.

I've attempted to graft Sarge's initrd onto my hacked 2.2 kernel, and while I've
got it to boot it is not able to find its CDROM. I believe (although as with all
things in this posting I'm open to correction) that the problem is that 2.2
doesn't include devfs whilst this is assumed by Sarge.

Finally, as a newcomer to this list here's a brief bio. I'm an electronics
engineer who's done a fair amount of embedded system work and whilst I've got
reasonable familiarity with PC hardware and software I've got a fair amount of
other experience including commercial DP kit and having written a microkernel
for '386 protected mode in Modula-2. The Sun machines are a new area to me but I
want to make sure that if the x86 platform becomes totally compromised by flash
and microcode viruses that I'm familiar with at least one other architecture. I
am not married, have no children, and do not live in East Sussex :-)

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Re: problems using a printer at my ultra5

2005-07-20 Thread Peter
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 13:31 +0200, Admar Schoonen wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:23:44PM +0200, Peter wrote:
> > Hi, what kind of USB card were you using in your Ultra 5? I tried a card
> > with a viao chipset that I had lying around, but the machine wouldn't
> > even boot up with that.
> 
> I don't remember any details except that it's a 4 port USB 2.0 card (480 Mbps)
> with a VIA chipset that I bought in a local computer store for a few euros.
> 
> My USB 1 printer and USB 2 mp3 player worked perfectly fine with that card.
> 
> I do remember reading a post several months ago where someone tried to use a
> USB/firewire combo card without much success. Is your card a USB only card, or
> does it also have firewire (or other features)?

I have a 4 port Sweex USB 2.0 card, VIA, 480 MBPS, no firewire. When I
install the card in my Ultra 5 it refuses to boot. I read somewhere that
a USB card will only work if it has a NEC chipset, but it seems to work
for you so I don't know.

Peter


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Re: drm kernel code for ffb Elite 3D card

2005-07-20 Thread David S. Miller
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:27:55 +0200

> I've seen on ML that the DRI hardware acceleration for the Elite 3D has
> been marked broken.

The Elite 3D never had DRI acceleration supported on it.
Only Creator3D did, and that got disabled because it was
nearly impossible to add correct font rendering support
and at the same time still support DRI.


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Re: Writing OBP from Linux

2005-07-20 Thread Eric Brower
On 7/20/05, Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I usually do this via TFTP, but this time I don't want to do this
> for various reasons, so does anyone have the program to do the
> actuall writing of the OBP?
> 
> I already extracted the actuall flash image from the OBP patch
> (retreived from Sun) using the command in the message
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2002/11/msg00020.html.
> 
> I have the 'flash' module and the corresponding /dev/flash device,
> but now what!? Just 'dd' the extracted OBP to the device? Is that
> safe?

You can find the flash programming utility written by Eddie on the net
with a little searching-- here's a copy:

 http://kumba.drachentekh.net/sparc-linux/flash.c

I can't comment on whether it works properly. 

 If memory serves, there used to be bootable OBP updates available
from Sun as well-- I believe you could "boot net' them, or potentially
dd them to your swap partition and boot from there.  I don't really
recall well enough, though.

Also, the sun_uflash MTD driver can likely be made to find these chips
(it ignores them, currently)-- if you can mmap MTD devices these days,
or even if not, it might be nice to leverage that driver and write a
new application that leverages the MTD-based device driver.

E



RE: Press L1-A to return to the boot prom

2005-07-20 Thread Steve
Title: Message



Hi 
Frederic,
 
That 
is the "stop" key (left hand side of the keyboard on the 5c) and the "a" 
key.
 
If you 
do this when the box is initialising you will get the PROM prompt "ok" and if 
you do it when you see SILO, you will be at the "boot" 
prompt.
 
The 
"ok" prompt allows you to do some system checking and change your boot options, 
floppy, cd, net etc and the "boot" prompt allows you to specify which specific 
kernel you want to boot from.  I am sure there are other more experienced 
members on the list who can you better details of what you can/can't do from 
these prompts.
 
Are 
you getting this on a kernel upgrade?  If so, you may have to change your 
symlinks to read full paths /boot/vmlinuz-whatever rather than just 
boot/vmlinuz-whatever.
 
Cheers,
 
Steve
 

  
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  > > What key sequence is this? I 
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RE: blade 1000 boot problem

2005-07-20 Thread Richard Mortimer
One thing to be aware of. The lights out management on Sun servers is
not provided by the Compaq stuff. Different Sun models have differing
versions of lights out management: some have it built into the
motherboard; others have separate cards to install; and the top end
stuff often has something a bit more complex.

One place of interest might be

http://www.sun.com/servers/alom.html

Richard

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 20 July 2005 14:27
> To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: blade 1000 boot problem
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 03:00:27PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> > Quoting Jon Biddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > >
> > > Not exactly sure of the origin, but I used to use it in a Compaq 
> > > server farm
> > > and it is a great idea, especially for remote / adsl connections.
> > >
> > > After all, workig from home in my jammies has a certain 
> appeal - not 
> > > to
> > > mention it's closer to the beer fridge !!
> > 
> > Is that availible without buying a Compaq server? Any ideas on the 
> > cost?
> 
> Yes, you can buy a board separately. The march prices says :
>   RILOE II (remove Integrated lights out II) costs 374 euros
> 
> 
>   Seb
> 
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Re: blade 1000 boot problem

2005-07-20 Thread seb
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 03:00:27PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> Quoting Jon Biddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >
> > Not exactly sure of the origin, but I used to use it in a Compaq server 
> > farm 
> > and it is a great idea, especially for remote / adsl connections.
> >
> > After all, workig from home in my jammies has a certain appeal - not to 
> > mention it's closer to the beer fridge !!
> 
> Is that availible without buying a Compaq server? Any ideas on the cost?

Yes, you can buy a board separately. The march prices says :
RILOE II (remove Integrated lights out II) costs 374 euros


Seb


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Re: blade 1000 boot problem

2005-07-20 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Jon Biddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:34, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
>> Quoting Dave Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Yes, when the v210 was frozen, I had to reset it via the lights-out
>> > management system.
>>
>> The 'lights-out management system'? Is that a Solaris thing?
>
> It's a Compaq-originated thing - an interface card that allows you to do 
> everything remotely - i.e. with the lights out in the server room.
>
> Not exactly sure of the origin, but I used to use it in a Compaq server farm 
> and it is a great idea, especially for remote / adsl connections.
>
> After all, workig from home in my jammies has a certain appeal - not to 
> mention it's closer to the beer fridge !!

Is that availible without buying a Compaq server? Any ideas on the cost?
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drm kernel code for ffb Elite 3D card

2005-07-20 Thread seb

I've seen on ML that the DRI hardware acceleration for the Elite 3D has
been marked broken.

Is there any hope to revive this piece of code ?

Seb


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Writing OBP from Linux

2005-07-20 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
I usually do this via TFTP, but this time I don't want to do this
for various reasons, so does anyone have the program to do the
actuall writing of the OBP?

I already extracted the actuall flash image from the OBP patch
(retreived from Sun) using the command in the message
http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2002/11/msg00020.html.

I have the 'flash' module and the corresponding /dev/flash device,
but now what!? Just 'dd' the extracted OBP to the device? Is that
safe?


This is a Linux kernel 2.6.12-rc3 on a Sun Blade 1000 (with current
OBP v4.13.0) if that matters...
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2.6.12.x-smp on U60

2005-07-20 Thread seb
Hi,
I tried for a few weeks to make my U60 2x300mhz with 1.5gb of ram to 
boot with 2.6.12 and 2.6.12.x.

Unfortunately, if the kernel seems to boot ok, I got a kernel panic when
doing a iptables load active.

Inserting the connection tracking module provokes an unrecoverable
kernel panic.

The 2.6.11.6 kernel was perfectly fine.

Does anyone had this problem ?

Seb


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Re: problems using a printer at my ultra5

2005-07-20 Thread Admar Schoonen
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:23:44PM +0200, Peter wrote:
> Hi, what kind of USB card were you using in your Ultra 5? I tried a card
> with a viao chipset that I had lying around, but the machine wouldn't
> even boot up with that.

I don't remember any details except that it's a 4 port USB 2.0 card (480 Mbps)
with a VIA chipset that I bought in a local computer store for a few euros.

My USB 1 printer and USB 2 mp3 player worked perfectly fine with that card.

I do remember reading a post several months ago where someone tried to use a
USB/firewire combo card without much success. Is your card a USB only card, or
does it also have firewire (or other features)?

Admar


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Re: blade 1000 boot problem

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Biddell
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:34, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> Quoting Dave Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Yes, when the v210 was frozen, I had to reset it via the lights-out
> > management system.
>
> The 'lights-out management system'? Is that a Solaris thing?

It's a Compaq-originated thing - an interface card that allows you to do 
everything remotely - i.e. with the lights out in the server room.

Not exactly sure of the origin, but I used to use it in a Compaq server farm 
and it is a great idea, especially for remote / adsl connections.

After all, workig from home in my jammies has a certain appeal - not to 
mention it's closer to the beer fridge !!


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Re: Press L1-A to return to the boot prom

2005-07-20 Thread frederic . jaimes
Title: Re: Press L1-A to return to the boot prom






"Press L1-A to return to the boot prom" 
> > What key sequence is this? I have a Type 5 keyboard. 



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Re: blade 1000 boot problem

2005-07-20 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Dave Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Yes, when the v210 was frozen, I had to reset it via the lights-out
> management system.

The 'lights-out management system'? Is that a Solaris thing?
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Re: blade 1000 boot problem

2005-07-20 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Dave Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Yes, when the v210 was frozen, I had to reset it via the lights-out
> management system.

The 'lights-out management system'? Is that a Solaris thingie?
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bug#71012: Missing dynamic dependency on libz]

2005-07-20 Thread Goddard Lee
Title: Message



 
I'm having the same 
DBD::mysql install issue: /mysql.so: undefined symbol: 
compress
But I'm having it on 
a PC; it seems to be to do with the lack of compression libraries, and is 
covered in the INSTALL.html included with the bundle or viewable on CPAN, in the 
'other files' section of the DBD::mysql module page.
 
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