Re: USB on Ultra 10
Just a quicky because I don't have much time but I feel it's urgent... If you have Creator 3D than you should NOT load the microcode! I repeat NOT! I have heard people doing that and it did not go smooth for them. Anyway, the microcode is for the Elite3D and not for any other card as far as I know. For the rest i'll update you later. Bye, Vincent On Friday 16 December 2005 10:23 pm, Vladimir Volovich wrote: Hi Vincent, VV == Vincent Vandeweijer writes: VV I don't know if it's of any help. A while ago I emailed this to VV somebody who posted it on the list. May sound silly but I just VV don't know how to post... if I send a mail to VV debian-sparc@lists.debian.org it never shows up in the VV list... must be some silly thing I don't know about :( your posts are perfectly visible in the newsgroup... thanks for your suggestions, they are very helpful. i didn't finish with switching to 2.6 kernel yet. i first upgraded to sid (was running sarge); then i faced with a nasty problem with Xorg + sparc + type5 keyboard + kernel 2.4 (you may have faced it too - it is discussed in e.g. http://blog.drinky.org.uk/?p=43) i left from the office today with this unsolved yet - but hope to solve it tomorrow based on suggestions there. one of solutions is to use 2.6 kernel, but i've got a problem installing the kernel package: # apt-get install linux-image-2.6-sparc64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 Suggested packages: linux-doc-2.6.14 linux-source-2.6.14 The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-2.6-sparc64 linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/9218kB of archives. After unpacking 29.5MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 103486 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 (from .../linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64_2.6.14-5_sparc.deb) ... Could not find mkinitrd.yaird mkinitramfs. at /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst line 236, STDIN line 9. Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-2.6-sparc64. Unpacking linux-image-2.6-sparc64 (from .../linux-image-2.6-sparc64_2.6.14-5_sparc.deb) ... Setting up linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 (2.6.14-5) ... Running depmod. Finding valid ramdisk creators. Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-2-sparc64 on running kernel 2.4.27-2-sparc64 in mkinitrd.yaird mkinitramfs dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-sparc64: linux-image-2.6-sparc64 depends on linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64; however: Package linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-sparc64 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 linux-image-2.6-sparc64 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) (and i do have yaird installed...) VV btw. getting an accellerated Elite3d config running isn't what it VV used to be either... :( I had to modify /etc/init.d/afbinit to VV get /usr/sbin/afbinit executed since dmesg doen't mention the VV string Elite 3D anymore... this type of detection is used by VV the /etc/init.d/afbinit script. But I guess that's not an issue VV for you. uh, to start with i had no idea that afbinit even existed... ok, i installed the package, and downloaded afb.ucode from SUN. i found several different versions of this file - what is the md5sum of your afb.ucode file? then i changed Elite to Creator in /etc/init.d/afbinit to make it run, but when i run /etc/init.d/afbinit start (in text console, running linux 2.4), the screen blanks and nothing shows up - is it normal? (i didn't try yet with linux 2.6). are you saying that with afbinit it is possible to get accelerated X? BTW, i have Creator 3D card: :01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 9a) shall i still use afbinit with it? could you please send me your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Best, v. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to get in openboot ???
Q: How do I access OpenBoot? Pressing the keys L1 and A at the same time will bring you to the OpenBoot system. You will see the display where is the L1 key ?? I see F1 ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get in openboot ???
On Sat, 2005-12-17 18:26:49 +0100, Marc Coevoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: How do I access OpenBoot? Pressing the keys L1 and A at the same time will bring you to the OpenBoot system. You will see the display where is the L1 key ?? I see F1 ... It's usually written as Stop on the keyboard. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +49-172-7608481 _ O _ Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf| Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)); signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to get in openboot ???
Hi. On Saturday 17 December 2005 18:26, Marc Coevoet wrote: Q: How do I access OpenBoot? Pressing the keys L1 and A at the same time will bring you to the OpenBoot system. You will see the display where is the L1 key ?? I see F1 ... It's the Stop key. Was called L1 on old keyboards. Regards, Hartwig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB on Ultra 10
Hi Vladimir, Yeah neat he, Xorg and a 2.4... try loggin in :) Guess I had exactly the same problem. A totally wrong layout. I found a modified keymap somewhere on the internet, can't remember where. But i'll link my copy here: http://osiris.dyndns.info/stuff/sun backup your original /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/sun and replace... Worked for me, allthough not all the keys worked, if I remember correctly. Btw. I am using a type6 keyboard (non usb) but i read somewhere they are type5 compatible. I'll also link my xorg.confs here: http://osiris.dyndns.info/stuff/xorg.conf - for my 2.6.12 kernel http://osiris.dyndns.info/stuff/xorg.conf.2.4.kernel - yeah, right. This one is the old conf for my 2.4.27 kernel. Note that i'm using an Elite 3D. Not the onboard ati card. I heard somewhere that the ati framebuffer in some 2.6 kernels was at least to say buggy :( You'll need to change some parameters to match my xorg.confs with your Creator 3D. Oh and that :01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II is not your Creator 3D card, at least i think so. A Creator 3Dcard is not a pci card but an UPA card (again, if i remember correct). It will not show up on lspci. I guess it'll have an 13w3 connector and not a D-Sub like most PC-type cards. Anyway... Hope it's of any help. Vincent On Friday 16 December 2005 10:23 pm, Vladimir Volovich wrote: Hi Vincent, VV == Vincent Vandeweijer writes: VV I don't know if it's of any help. A while ago I emailed this to VV somebody who posted it on the list. May sound silly but I just VV don't know how to post... if I send a mail to VV debian-sparc@lists.debian.org it never shows up in the VV list... must be some silly thing I don't know about :( your posts are perfectly visible in the newsgroup... thanks for your suggestions, they are very helpful. i didn't finish with switching to 2.6 kernel yet. i first upgraded to sid (was running sarge); then i faced with a nasty problem with Xorg + sparc + type5 keyboard + kernel 2.4 (you may have faced it too - it is discussed in e.g. http://blog.drinky.org.uk/?p=43) i left from the office today with this unsolved yet - but hope to solve it tomorrow based on suggestions there. one of solutions is to use 2.6 kernel, but i've got a problem installing the kernel package: # apt-get install linux-image-2.6-sparc64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 Suggested packages: linux-doc-2.6.14 linux-source-2.6.14 The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-2.6-sparc64 linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/9218kB of archives. After unpacking 29.5MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 103486 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 (from .../linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64_2.6.14-5_sparc.deb) ... Could not find mkinitrd.yaird mkinitramfs. at /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst line 236, STDIN line 9. Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-2.6-sparc64. Unpacking linux-image-2.6-sparc64 (from .../linux-image-2.6-sparc64_2.6.14-5_sparc.deb) ... Setting up linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 (2.6.14-5) ... Running depmod. Finding valid ramdisk creators. Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-2-sparc64 on running kernel 2.4.27-2-sparc64 in mkinitrd.yaird mkinitramfs dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-sparc64: linux-image-2.6-sparc64 depends on linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64; however: Package linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-sparc64 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.14-2-sparc64 linux-image-2.6-sparc64 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) (and i do have yaird installed...) VV btw. getting an accellerated Elite3d config running isn't what it VV used to be either... :( I had to modify /etc/init.d/afbinit to VV get /usr/sbin/afbinit executed since dmesg doen't mention the VV string Elite 3D anymore... this type of detection is used by VV the /etc/init.d/afbinit script. But I guess that's not an issue VV for you. uh, to start with i had no idea that afbinit even existed... ok, i installed the package, and downloaded afb.ucode from SUN. i found several different versions of this file - what is the md5sum of your afb.ucode file? then i changed Elite to Creator in /etc/init.d/afbinit to make it run, but when i run /etc/init.d/afbinit start (in text console, running
Re: how to get in openboot ???
Ok I put a linux cdrom and try to boot cdrom it says: boot device;:/iommu/sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 40/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:d can't open disk label can't open disk label package .. Can the boot see the cdrom ?? is the cdrom faulty ??? Op 17-dec-05 om 18:29 heeft Jan-Benedict Glaw het volgende geschreven: On Sat, 2005-12-17 18:26:49 +0100, Marc Coevoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: How do I access OpenBoot? Pressing the keys L1 and A at the same time will bring you to the OpenBoot system. You will see the display where is the L1 key ?? I see F1 ... It's usually written as Stop on the keyboard. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +49-172-7608481 _ O _ Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf| Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));
Re: USB on Ultra 10
Hi Vincent, VV == Vincent Vandeweijer writes: VV Yeah neat he, Xorg and a 2.4... try loggin in :) :) VV Guess I had exactly the same problem. A totally wrong layout. I VV found a modified keymap somewhere on the internet, can't remember VV where. [...] yeah, thanks... i've also found some xkb/keycodes/sun maps on the net (for Xorg+linux2.4+type5 keyboard); but fortunately by now i don't need them anymore - i'm now happily running Linux 2.6.14 on sid (with Xorg) :-) (and on 2.6 this workaround is not needed). what i had to do: it was somewhat tricky to install the kernel package in the first place: i was running linux 2.4.27, and installing 2.6.14 was giving errors when creating initrd. i had to install 2.6.12 first, boot from there (and it was very helpful advice to use append=video=atyfb:off in silo.conf because otherwise the screen was unusable even in text mode), and then install 2.6.14. in 2.6.12, text console worked great (except i had to reconfigure console-data to use KERNEL mapping, otherwose the keyboard was unusable even in text mode), but Xorg was crashing. i also tried 2.6.15-rc5 and Xorg also crashes there: i get traces in /var/log/messages like these: Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: Call Trace: Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [00440f58] copy_process+0x978/0xe60 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [00441480] do_fork+0x40/0x1e0 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [00407194] linux_sparc_syscall32+0x34/0x40 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [701e7bfc] 0x701e7bfc Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: Call Trace: Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [00475e44] exit_mmap+0x64/0x160 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [0044054c] mmput+0x2c/0xc0 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [0048eb2c] flush_old_exec+0x18c/0x880 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [0042fe4c] load_elf_binary+0x3cc/0x15c0 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [0048f40c] search_binary_handler+0x8c/0x2a0 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [004af21c] compat_do_execve+0x1dc/0x220 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [0042711c] sparc32_execve+0x3c/0xa0 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [00407194] linux_sparc_syscall32+0x34/0x40 Dec 17 18:33:00 localhost kernel: [701e7d68] 0x701e7d68 Dec 17 18:33:43 localhost kernel: Call Trace: Dec 17 18:33:43 localhost kernel: [00476470] unmap_region+0x70/0x140 Dec 17 18:33:43 localhost kernel: [00476b94] do_munmap+0x174/0x240 Dec 17 18:33:43 localhost kernel: [00476c7c] sys_munmap+0x1c/0x40 Dec 17 18:33:43 localhost kernel: [00407194] linux_sparc_syscall32+0x34/0x40 Dec 17 18:33:43 localhost kernel: [007c6960] 0x7c6960 and Invalid pty, process: Xorg ... on the terminal... the X screen remains blank (and as if no switch to graphics mode was performed), but X and all apps continues to work etc... that was with 2.6.12 and 2.6.15-rc5 i was lucky to decide to try 2.6.14, and it magically worked there!!! the keyboard works too. VV I'll also link my xorg.confs here: VV http://osiris.dyndns.info/stuff/xorg.conf - for my 2.6.12 kernel VV http://osiris.dyndns.info/stuff/xorg.conf.2.4.kernel - yeah, VV right. This one is the old conf for my 2.4.27 kernel. thanks! will try it out (now the only thing i'd like to do is to switch on the video acceleration if that's possible...). VV Note that i'm using an Elite 3D. Not the onboard ati card. I VV heard somewhere that the ati framebuffer in some 2.6 kernels was VV at least to say buggy :( You'll need to change some parameters to VV match my xorg.confs with your Creator 3D. yup. VV Oh and that :01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI VV Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II is not your Creator 3D card, at VV least i think so. A Creator 3Dcard is not a pci card but an UPA VV card (again, if i remember correct). It will not show up on VV lspci. I guess it'll have an 13w3 connector and not a D-Sub like VV most PC-type cards. Anyway... yup, right... i have Creator 3D inserted not in a PCI slot... and this machine has also an on-board ATI card (for video capturing)... VV Hope it's of any help. your advices are very helpful, thanks a lot!!! Best, v. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB on Ultra 10
VV == Vladimir Volovich writes: VV what i had to do: VV it was somewhat tricky to install the kernel package in the first VV place: i was running linux 2.4.27, and installing 2.6.14 was VV giving errors when creating initrd. VV i had to install 2.6.12 first, boot from there (and it was very VV helpful advice to use append=video=atyfb:off in silo.conf VV because otherwise the screen was unusable even in text mode), and VV then install 2.6.14. forgot to mention that part of the fun with installing 2.6 kernel package was that i had to patch yaird too, folloing these advices: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342904 VV in 2.6.12, text console worked great (except i had to reconfigure VV console-data to use KERNEL mapping, otherwose the keyboard was VV unusable even in text mode), but Xorg was crashing. Best, v. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get in openboot ???
Hi. On Saturday 17 December 2005 19:25, Marc Coevoet wrote: Ok I put a linux cdrom and try to boot cdrom it says: boot device;:/iommu/sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 40/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:d can't open disk label can't open disk label package .. Can the boot see the cdrom ?? is the cdrom faulty ??? Might be useful if you provide some more information. Which type of Sun workstation? Where did you get the CDROM? Which debian version? As I can see by the boot device message you try to install on an old SBUS based sun. My old Sun (Toshiba) SCSI CD drives dont read RW media. You might need a RO CD. Might that be your problem? Regards, Hartwig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get in openboot ???
On Sat, 2005-12-17 19:42:57 +0100, Hartwig Atrops [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 17 December 2005 19:25, Marc Coevoet wrote: Ok I put a linux cdrom and try to boot cdrom it says: boot device;:/iommu/sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 40/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:d can't open disk label can't open disk label package .. Can the boot see the cdrom ?? is the cdrom faulty ??? Might be useful if you provide some more information. Which type of Sun workstation? Where did you get the CDROM? Which debian version? As I can see by the boot device message you try to install on an old SBUS based sun. My old Sun (Toshiba) SCSI CD drives dont read RW media. You might need a RO CD. Might that be your problem? Additionally, many old workstations expect CD-ROM drives to initially work with 512 Bytes per sector (while most newer drives come up with 2048 Bytes per sector). Either use an older drive then (some more expensive drives do have jumpers on their back to switch between 512 and 2048 bytes...), or use a dual-hosted SCSI bus and write a small tool to eg. use Linux' SCSI-generic driver to set the drive to 512 Bytes once it powered up. 6,0 seems to be the SCSI ID. Is this correct? Is the SCSI chain properly terminated? MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +49-172-7608481 _ O _ Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf| Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)); signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to get in openboot ???
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 19:25 +0100, Marc Coevoet wrote: Ok I put a linux cdrom and try to boot cdrom it says: boot device;:/iommu/sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 40/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:d can't open disk label can't open disk label package .. Can the boot see the cdrom ?? is the cdrom faulty ??? This suggests that you have a SCSI CD drive set for ID=6. What vintage of system and drive are you using? When I've had CD problems installing Debian on older Sparcs, they have been because: - drive was an external one and terminator was not present - an old drive couldn't read the type of CD media reliably; CD-R is more compatible with older drives than CD-RW - drive was new enough, but the CD was bad or I burned it wrong; try another CD (of another brand if necessary) and burn it at a slow rate - drive was bad -- SP Op 17-dec-05 om 18:29 heeft Jan-Benedict Glaw het volgende geschreven: On Sat, 2005-12-17 18:26:49 +0100, Marc Coevoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: How do I access OpenBoot? Pressing the keys L1 and A at the same time will bring you to the OpenBoot system. You will see the display where is the L1 key ?? I see F1 ... It's usually written as Stop on the keyboard. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +49-172-7608481 _ O _ Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf| Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg _ _ O für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger | im Internet! | im Irak! O O O ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)); -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
