Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:38:53PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > What are the specifications for that one?
> 
> I'm not sure, but I'll put you in contact with the donor privately so
> you can check.

Thanks.

> > If it's sufficiently modern and beefed up, it might be worth
> > shipping it to a place with a fat pipe, but I've no idea if such a
> > thing is being practised. I could host it over here in Europe, if we
> > decided that kind of a trip was worth it.
> 
> I doubt shipping to Europe is worth it,

We won't actually know unless we get some numbers. If we get charged e.g.
750 USD for shipping a large box overseas, that sounds expensive, but if
the overhead of finding such a machine and getting it to the right place
is large and takes a lot of time to get it online in a decent setting,
so large that nobody actually wants to bother, and no progress is made,
then those 750 USD were not worth saving.

> but it shouldn't be too hard to find hosting in California.  Maybe you
> want to check whether this box would be useful and whether someone can
> host it?

We don't have any sort of a database of hosting offers, do we?

If we don't, debian-admin should have received a fair few offers back when
they posted a public call for hosting of those two machines, so if that info
can be collected and verified again, it should be useful.

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-04 23:03]:
> > but it shouldn't be too hard to find hosting in California.  Maybe you
> > want to check whether this box would be useful and whether someone can
> > host it?
> We don't have any sort of a database of hosting offers, do we?

I don't think so.
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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:12:28PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > but it shouldn't be too hard to find hosting in California.  Maybe you
> > > want to check whether this box would be useful and whether someone can
> > > host it?
> > We don't have any sort of a database of hosting offers, do we?
> 
> I don't think so.

Maybe it would be worth setting up a separate (archived) mail alias @d.o
and then tell people that they can send information there.

Mind if I bring this up on -project so that we get some broader input?

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-04 15:52]:
> An E4500 is more or less a shipping nightmare. Do they have its rack mount
> kit? Which CPUs are in it, and how many of them? Another person in England
> recently told me about a similar possible donation, and they also have no
> idea how to ship it...
...
> A Netra T4 is a 4U server which should be pretty modern, and likely worth
> having. What are the specifications for that one?

I'm not sure, but I'll put you in contact with the donor privately so
you can check.

> If it's sufficiently modern and beefed up, it might be worth
> shipping it to a place with a fat pipe, but I've no idea if such a
> thing is being practised. I could host it over here in Europe, if we
> decided that kind of a trip was worth it.

I doubt shipping to Europe is worth it, but it shouldn't be too hard
to find hosting in California.  Maybe you want to check whether this
box would be useful and whether someone can host it?
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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun E4500 and netra t4

2007-06-04 Thread Blars Blarson
>Is anyone interested in the following machines for Debian related
>work?  The machines are currently located in Carlsbad, CA, near Lego
>Land.
>
>> We recently freed up some old Sun hardware that we're willing to donate
>> for the cost of shipping.  Available are:
>> 
>> - Sun Enterprise 4500
>> - Sun Netra T4

I'm willing to pick them up, Carlsbad is about 100 miles from where I
live.

It would be good to add them to our pile of hardware to test installs
on if nothing else.  They are newer and faster than any of my sparc
systems.

Since I've been less active in the sparc port (and debian in general,
other than despamming the bts) latly, I'll defer to anyone else that
has a good use for them.

If someone in San Jose/San Fransisco area needs them, I might be able
to deliver them in early July.

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:40:12AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Is anyone interested in the following machines for Debian related
> work?  The machines are currently located in Carlsbad, CA, near Lego
> Land.
> 
> > We recently freed up some old Sun hardware that we're willing to donate
> > for the cost of shipping.  Available are:
> > 
> > - Sun Enterprise 4500
> > - Sun Netra T4

An E4500 is more or less a shipping nightmare. Do they have its rack mount
kit? Which CPUs are in it, and how many of them? Another person in England
recently told me about a similar possible donation, and they also have no
idea how to ship it...

A Netra T4 is a 4U server which should be pretty modern, and likely worth
having. What are the specifications for that one?

If it's sufficiently modern and beefed up, it might be worth shipping it
to a place with a fat pipe, but I've no idea if such a thing is being
practised. I could host it over here in Europe, if we decided that kind
of a trip was worth it.

In general, someone should ask an overseas shipping company for the price of
shipping of such large and heavy boxes. We're mostly speculating on how
expensive it would be, but Debian has money in the bank that's not being
used otherwise, so it might not be so expensive after all.

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Re: build sparc32 kernel deb on sparc64

2007-06-04 Thread Daniel Smolik

Robert Reif napsal(a):

Daniel Smolik wrote:


Robert Reif napsal(a):


Is it possible to build a sparc32 kernel deb on sparc64?

I can compile a 32 bit kernel using ARCH=sparc ok.
Running make-kpkg --arch sparc tries to compile a 64 bit kernel.
Setting an ARCH=sparc environment variable doesn't help.

Any one have any pointers on cross compiling a sparc32 kernel deb on 
a sparc64 system?




I normaly compile kernel for 32 sparc as:

sparc32 bash
make

Dan


This doesn't work for me:

netra:/usr/src/linux-2.6# sparc32 bash
-bash: sparc32: command not found

What package do I need to do this?  I just installed the standard 
(minimum) packages.



dpkg -S /usr/bin/sparc32
sparc-utils: /usr/bin/sparc32


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[hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
Is anyone interested in the following machines for Debian related
work?  The machines are currently located in Carlsbad, CA, near Lego
Land.

> We recently freed up some old Sun hardware that we're willing to donate
> for the cost of shipping.  Available are:
> 
> - Sun Enterprise 4500
> - Sun Netra T4

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